Went over a pot hole last night and burst both tyres on the left hand side of my car.  This was an annoying thing.

 

Previously I had 2 x nearly new Vredestein on the fronts, a new Avon back right and an older Dunlop back left.  I tried to get the same Avons to replace the two blown ones so i'd have 3 the same and a Vredestein front right on it's own.  

 

Now the tyre place can't get the Avons so i'm getting 2 Firestone Roadhawks which means i've got matching tyres down one side and two odd ones on the other side.  They're all the same rating and similar tread patterns (not directional / asymmetrical). 

 

Can anyone see this being a problem in the real world? I know ideally I'd be getting a set of 4 matching but i'm not chucking away 2 <6 month old tyres.  Would it be better if I got it rotated so that the firestone are a pair at the front?  Tyres on the Drive say they can't rotate them themselves due to tyre pressure monitors so presumably i'd need to take it somewhere that will take the actual tyres off rather than move the wheels. 

Personally I would have the matching pair on the front. As for tyre pressure sensors, your Octavia won't have them, the sensing is done via the ABS sensors

Pothole? Good grief, are you sure it wasn't a tank trap you ran into?

Return to the scene, photograph the offending hole and ask the responsible authority for compensation. 

6 minutes ago, Warrior193 said:

Pothole? Good grief, are you sure it wasn't a tank trap you ran into?

Return to the scene, photograph the offending hole and ask the responsible authority for compensation. 

 

 I'd keep the damaged tyres as evidence and do the above

 

 

Edited 2 October, 20196 yr by Auric Goldfinger

37 minutes ago, Warrior193 said:

Pothole? Good grief, are you sure it wasn't a tank trap you ran into?

Return to the scene, photograph the offending hole and ask the responsible authority for compensation. 

 

It was ridiculous mate - country road at around 40/50mph.  Mini stream running down both sides of the road but had a car coming the other way so had to be fully on my side of the road so didn't even see it was a hole, just looked like a puddle.  I'm just hoping the wheels are ok. 

 

I've reported it already and made a complaint but i'll see if I can find it again and get a picture. 

32 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

 I'd keep the damaged tyres as evidence and do the above

 

 

 

Good shout. 

Generally speaking the best tyres should go on the back as you don't want the back end breaking away in slippery conditions.

5 hours ago, CooperDJ said:

They're all the same rating and similar tread patterns (not directional / asymmetrical). 

The two in your photo both look assymetrical to me.

 

5 hours ago, CooperDJ said:

Tyres on the Drive say they can't rotate them

Don't use that company then.

 

Yes put the two new tyres on the same axle will be best.

And get the alignment checked afterwards.

 

Thanks AG Falco

8 hours ago, Anddenton said:

Generally speaking the best tyres should go on the back as you don't want the back end breaking away in slippery conditions.

I agree but when you have mismatched tread patterns I'd be more inclined to have the good ones on the front and the odd ones on the rear.

 

If I had the mismatch on the front I'd be very inclined to do a few burnouts. 🙂

 

OP.  Assuming they aren't directional treads I'd put new ones on the front and odd on rear then reset the TPMS.  It's not ideal but i hate mismatch on the front

2 hours ago, brad1.8T said:

I agree but when you have mismatched tread patterns I'd be more inclined to have the good ones on the front and the odd ones on the rear.

 

If I had the mismatch on the front I'd be very inclined to do a few burnouts. 🙂

 

OP.  Assuming they aren't directional treads I'd put new ones on the front and odd on rear then reset the TPMS.  It's not ideal but i hate mismatch on the front

Will it definitely not be a problem moving the wheels around then? Just a case of pressing the reset button when they're all sorted? 

20 minutes ago, CooperDJ said:

Will it definitely not be a problem moving the wheels around then? Just a case of pressing the reset button when they're all sorted? 

 

In terms of TPMS, almost certainly.

 

The MK2 Octavia uses an indirect TPMS system where there are no pressure sensors. Instead, it uses the ABS sensors which can only measure the rotation. When you use the TPMS reset switch, it'll clear out the previous data and learn based on the wheels current positions

 

If a previous owner has retrofitted a direct system (with pressure sensors) it could cause issues. If nothing currently shows the exact pressure of each wheel, you have nothing to worry about...

18 hours ago, CooperDJ said:

Tyres on the Drive say they can't rotate them themselves due to tyre pressure monitors

Look for a more competent tyre fitter, like pretty much anyone else. It's place tyres, set pressures, press TPMS reset button. I understand that and I've never had a car with TPMS!

Car manufacturers invariably say you should have matching tyres on each axle, for example both fronts match and both rears match.

 

I would put both new tyres on the front as the front will do most of the braking. Hard braking with dissimilar tyres on the front could be a nightmare.

32 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

Look for a more competent tyre fitter, like pretty much anyone else. It's place tyres, set pressures, press TPMS reset button. I understand that and I've never had a car with TPMS!

 

It was the person in the call centre rather than the fitter that said that, plus they've managed to mess up my order for the second time now so aren't coming now.  Have National tyres fitting two Avons now instead! 

In France they need you to put matching tyres on the same axle. 

12 minutes ago, edbostan said:

In France they need you to put matching tyres on the same axle. 

Here too, but "matching" means "same construction" rather than "same make, model and tread pattern".

16 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

Here too, but "matching" means "same construction" rather than "same make, model and tread pattern".

 

Well they're all going to be 225/40/R18 92Y and 3 out of 4 will be Avon and they're all less than 6 months old with broadly the same looking tread so I think i'll be ok! 

4 hours ago, CooperDJ said:

Will it definitely not be a problem moving the wheels around then? Just a case of pressing the reset button when they're all sorted? 

As long as they aren't directional going in the wrong direction.

 

Put them where you want.  

set Tyre pressures

reset TPMS .  This gives it a datum of zero and as you drive it counts the wheel rotations and learns the various tyre diameters

I found the culprit! 

 

Car is driving ok with the new tyres but still think I'm going to get the pair moved to the front and have the tracking checked. 

 

 

3 hours ago, CooperDJ said:

I found the culprit!

Well, that proves the council were aware of it!

3 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

Well, that proves the council were aware of it!

 

Yeah! problem is yellow paint isn't much use when it's dark and the road is waterlogged 

9 hours ago, CooperDJ said:

I found the culprit! 

Is that yellow painting the British way of the council getting away from any responsibility? I mean if some authority took the time to mark the potholes, why didn't it bloody repair it?

No, just marking it clearly for the repair team.

As long as you are far away from the limit different tires is going to be OK

 

And we all wonder why our local authorities are a a disaster! That's a fairly typical way for our lot to "repair" a pot hole. Or if it's a longer stretch of poor surface they come and put "temporary road surface" signs and call if mended. 

In winter they come out with the gritter and drive around with the flashing lights on to "warn" us that it's frosty/snowy but don't actually put any grit/salt down. 

A cracker that happened about a month ago was a coach's automatic door mechanism failed and basically the glass fell out and broke (safety glass all over a small section of road). Well, the councils response was to send someone out with signs and cones to partially close off that carriagway for a over a week before a trained road road crew with specialist equipment to deal with the incident could attend the scene! Could the original dude who came out with the cones not have swept it up with dustpan and brush? (I say carriageway loosely as the section of road concerned is a very quite b road) 

Anyway apologies for digressing, good luck with making any claim.

Edited 6 October, 20196 yr by Gmac983

A claim against the Local Authorities or the people that have the contract for road maintenence depends on how long since the inspection and identifying the potholes and the work being done or not.

http://potholes.co.uk

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/272686-motorway-blowout-2-tyres-wrecked-evergreens-fitted-oh-dear

 

 

 

Edited 6 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot