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VRS 245 DSG MPG improvements with mileage?

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I've run a fair few searches and seen a lot of topics on the 245 MPG. Cant find exactly what i'm looking for hence this question.

 

I have just finished my first tank of fuel in my 245 challange DSG. It managed 270 miles to £53 (43 litres) of fuel. The cost is fairly irrelevant (I knew it would be thirsty) and not representative off what it'll average long term for me as the first tank was a mixture of lot of idling (when playing with settings in the driveway) and a lot of spirited playing with the performance. The question I have though is what are peoples experiences about whether MPG improves over time - i.e. does to engine start to free up after a few thousand miles and mpg improve? or does it take 10/15k to really notice a difference? That's certainly been my experience with other cars but my last one (Discovery Sport) took almost 20k to start improving.  It would be nice to make 300 miles per fill up, which would make it once a week for me.

I have a 245 Manual 8500K miles and on a full tank my range is around 350 miles,  On a spirited run I can get 38-40 MPG and if I smoke my pipe, drive in my slippers I can get 45 + mpg.

 

Yours should  improve with milage.................

 

 

 

Edited by Auric Goldfinger

Don't forget we're going into the first significant temp drops of the season so you're cars economy is going to suffer; de-misting windows, idling to help defrosting, winter fuel, engine taking longer to get up to optimum temps, it all takes it's toll.  

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New car, new brakes as mentioned in the Owners Manual, and 'Driving in a car'. (Running In.)

 

Some Tesco Momentum 99, tyre pressures set & a brim to brim check after the car has more miles on it will be a good idea just how many miles to the litre it can do.  Or what the 10 or 11 gallons gives you as a range.

Having covered 28,000 miles in 27 months my 245 does as little as 9.7mpg on a track day to as much as 48mpg on a long run. Overall average over 40mpg tank range from 440 to a high of 526 miles. In winter I use 95 octane BP because most of the time you can't use the performance on busy wet roads safely yet in the summer switch to wider alloys with wider stickier tyres and 99 octane Shell V-Power (Tesco Momentum cheaper and as good if nearer to you than me). Being a manual I only have 6 gears whereas the DSG having an extra gear would save a little fuel cruising on the motorway (lower revs) but most of the time the constant changing of gear, extra weight compared to the manual will use more fuel.:thumbup:I use 18" alloys in the winter with 2.4bar tyre pressures and 19" alloys in the summer with 2.7bar tyre pressures.;)

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Thanks all. Well aware it's been delivered in the first really cold week of the year so high load with heater/window/mirror defrosters etc not helping. tyres are at the "correct" pressure (although i'll be playing around with that). Guess I would just like to fast forward to spring and 6/7k miles to see if it improves. Plus running in is a bit boring (as were sub zero temps on summer tyres this morning!). Hopefully after running in it'll get better. Just hoping it wont be 20k miles like my last car. In fact that was still improving at 33k when I sold it.

51 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

New car, new brakes as mentioned in the Owners Manual, and 'Driving in a car'. (Running In.)

 

Some Tesco Momentum 99, tyre pressures set & a brim to brim check after the car has more miles on it will be a good idea just how many miles to the litre it can do.  Or what the 10 or 11 gallons gives you as a range.

Will do a few tanks on normal fuel and then give 99 a go.

31K on the clock now. I've had 50.1mpg on my commute, but when the weather was nicer. I'm getting 44mpg on the drive in at the moment.

Yes it should improve. On my commute I'm struggling to get 40mpg at the moment due to the cold weather. Normally an easy 45mpg in the manual estate. 

 

Still, better than the 23mpg I got towing the caravan last week. 

Yes OP, I've had sub 300 mile tank fulls and some as much as 400 miles. The engine does very good mpg on longer runs have seen 44mpg myself.. my wife got almost 47. I've also had sub 20 for what i call a spirited run by myself. Not been to a track nor can I as it's not my car :)

Generally the car sits in the 30 to 35 mpg range for normal use which is usually find town local trips.

I'm averaging 31 in mine (2 yrs , 20k miles). Mid 30s on a longish run. Wife has started driving it regularly now and was doing high 30s for the first week or so, but now down to lower 30s as she's starting enjoying it! Just wish it had a larger tank as filling it every 300 miles or so, is a bit of a faff. 

The stats in the OP equates to ~28mpg.

Given the described conditions this seems reasonable really.

 

I've had up to 46mpg on a recent 100 mile run, however the last week or so of shorter journeys it's doing about 29mpg.  

That's in my 32k mile 230 but I doubt the mpg difference is noticable between a 230 and 245.

 

Generally I'm averaging 34mpg over a tank, but this differs from person to person depending on driving style, location, weather etc etc.

 

I've also switched from 95RON to 97 RON recently (last 2.5 tanks) and noticed no difference in either power or mpg tbh.  I'll be switching back on the next tank full.

 

3 hours ago, Alex-W said:

The stats in the OP equates to ~28mpg.

Given the described conditions this seems reasonable really.

 

I've had up to 46mpg on a recent 100 mile run, however the last week or so of shorter journeys it's doing about 29mpg.  

That's in my 32k mile 230 but I doubt the mpg difference is noticable between a 230 and 245.

 

Generally I'm averaging 34mpg over a tank, but this differs from person to person depending on driving style, location, weather etc etc.

 

I've also switched from 95RON to 97 RON recently (last 2.5 tanks) and noticed no difference in either power or mpg tbh.  I'll be switching back on the next tank full.

 

I also never believed the hype of 97 Super.. 95 boggo works just fine for me.

2 hours ago, Scotty72 said:

I also never believed the hype of 97 Super.. 95 boggo works just fine for me.

Been using 95 octane BP standard unleaded for 2 months now and despite horrendous amounts of traffic recently dropping my average speed from 43mph to just 30mph on the current tank (2 recent journeys took 70 and 55 minutes whereas normally takes 37 minutes) still averaging 39mpg in the cold weather. Range now only 429 miles.:D

3 hours ago, Scotty72 said:

I also never believed the hype of 97 Super.. 95 boggo works just fine for me.

 

+1. Cheap Tesco 95 does the job for me just fine. Managed 50mpg on a run recently and tend to average 38mpg per tank.

This really made me chuckle to see and hear Coldplay's Chris Martin give an interview having flown many thousands of miles to Jordan to announce that his band had decided to save the planet by "taking an enviromental Touring Pause". After thinking HYPOCRITE, he will be telling us next he only eats vegetables like Lewis Hamilton and drives a Toyota Prius all the time because they are the best thing to help Polar Bears. Where is my sick bucket, please God protect us from these Saintly people, he should have been a Pastor, much more enviromentally friendly gig, let the people come to him rather than visit all parts of the World doing his job.:thumbdown:

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

This really made me chuckle to see and hear Coldplay's Chris Martin give an interview having flown many thousands of miles to Jordan to announce that his band had decided to save the planet by "taking an enviromental Touring Pause". After thinking HYPOCRITE, he will be telling us next he only eats vegetables like Lewis Hamilton and drives a Toyota Prius all the time because they are the best thing to help Polar Bears. Where is my sick bucket, please God protect us from these Saintly people, he should have been a Pastor, much more enviromentally friendly gig, let the people come to him rather than visit all parts of the World doing his job.:thumbdown:

John999boy could you move this post to chuckle in your day, not sure how I managed to post it under 245 DSG fuel consumption. TIA shy.:blush

2 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

This really made me chuckle to see and hear Coldplay's Chris Martin give an interview having flown many thousands of miles to Jordan to announce that his band had decided to save the planet by "taking an enviromental Touring Pause". After thinking HYPOCRITE, he will be telling us next he only eats vegetables like Lewis Hamilton and drives a Toyota Prius all the time because they are the best thing to help Polar Bears. Where is my sick bucket, please God protect us from these Saintly people, he should have been a Pastor, much more enviromentally friendly gig, let the people come to him rather than visit all parts of the World doing his job.:thumbdown:

You can laugh at him, but at least he recognises there is an issue. Maybe he's growing up? 🤩

Slightly back on topic :)

Contrary to many others, my personal experience with about a half dozen from new vehicles (large/small/diesel/petrol) is that I could not identify any improvement in consumption that I could associate with just loosening of the running gear during ownership.

However that is not to say that I did not experience some consumption improvement but it was due to my learning the engine characteristics and driving to them.

6 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

I bet that makes depressing reading on past form. How many pairs of front tyres have you worn out so far Tony, 3 would be my guess.:whew:

Yeah, 4th pair just gone on

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Scraped 300 miles out of the second tank so that’s at least an improvement. 

There has been an urban myth that VW engines have a pre-programmed running in period dependant on mileage.

 

I would normally not believe this kind of thing but my TSi took a large bump in MPG when it crossed a round mileage number. (from memory it was 3000) an increase of around 3-4 mpg overnight same route, same driving style, same conditions.

 

I would have dismissed it out of hand but then Dieselgate came and I would not put it past them to have dropped something in the programming.

@Bugginbob   What use was the car getting for 300 miles, as in how long or far is each trip from a cold start?

 

The car left the factory and is running now with VW 508/509 so 0w 20 FS IV, about as crappy a viscosity Skoda / VW could use for the WLTP / RDE and now RDE2 and incase the car might get retested as it was imported to the UK.

 

So the oil is suited to the lower emission figure they gave, which should be about as good a MPG it will do.

So if the tyre pressures are good, and the brakes run free when not applied the cars economy is as good as it gets in the way used.

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53 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

@Bugginbob   What use was the car getting for 300 miles, as in how long or far is each trip from a cold start?

 

The car left the factory and is running now with VW 508/509 so 0w 20 FS IV, about as crappy a viscosity Skoda / VW could use for the WLTP / RDE and now RDE2 and incase the car might get retested as it was imported to the UK.

 

So the oil is suited to the lower emission figure they gave, which should be about as good a MPG it will do.

So if the tyre pressures are good, and the brakes run free when not applied the cars economy is as good as it gets in the way used.

85% commute which is 6 miles downhill on single track lane, 11 miles motorway cruising at “normal” outside lane motorway speed. Then reverse on way home with 6 miles uphill at the end. Mpg jumped for 3 days this week when the temp got over single digits and tyres performed much better. 
 

not really unhappy with the mpg just was hoping to get 300 miles from a tank before the warning comes on. Seems like that’s probably achievable if I take it easy. Real mpg on this tank was 31.5. Computer read 33.2.

 

will be interesting to see how it carry’s on when I’ve finished running it in and use a bit more of the performance.

 

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