Hi All i have a 2015 superb 3T MKii, i have changed all the front bulbs to LED from halogen, can someone point me please in the right direction of coding out the bulb errors.

Ive been looking but not having much luck in finding what im looking for plenty on HID ( is it the same?) ive also changed the reversing light bulbs too so looking to code that out.

 

Thank you in advance 

From memory VCDS cannot do this on the MKII Superb, you will need VCP.

Ok thank you I will look into vcp, I'm new to the vag coding but have done bits on BMW's 

Is VCP like vcds,is it similar or is it for older cars? Mine is a 2015 3t face lift.

With VCP you can code the BCM to not check certain bulbs which it does on start up. DO NOT DO any light coding with VCDS and leave Byte 18 well alone, i.e. do not change the "00" at all.

1 hour ago, 26DIPP said:

With VCP you can code the BCM to not check certain bulbs which it does on start up. DO NOT DO any light coding with VCDS and leave Byte 18 well alone, i.e. do not change the "00" at all.

Hi I'm in south Yorkshire can you do this? 

Thank you for your help

Hi,

I have a VCP cable and have coded my BCM - not for use with LEDs though. We live south of Leicester.

Can you help in anyway? Point me in the right direction, I'm having trouble finding any information, I've found someone in Sheffield with VCP or I'd be willing to drive your way for help and cover costs for time.

Thank you 

Led replacements for halogen dipped / main beam are illegal on road going vehicles. Just a kindly FYI.

VCP can change the lighting configuration but that section of EEPROM doesn't cover the headlights (dipped or full beams).

 

That being said, at least some of our Russian friends claim to have solved this: https://www.drive2.ru/l/10006479/

 

Just remember that various people have had issues with aftermarket LED (and xenon/HID) kits damaging components in the BCM. You might also find although there is more foreground lighting, you've lost a lot of distance lighting where it's more useful...

1 hour ago, Tilt said:

Led replacements for halogen dipped / main beam are illegal on road going vehicles. Just a kindly FYI.

Hi I have checked with a number of MOT testers ( I work with garages) and they have said its HID and as long as the beam pattern and height is correct (aim) you are fine.

Just now, Mark598 said:

Hi I have checked with a number of MOT testers ( I work with garages) and they have said its HID and as long as the beam pattern and height is correct (aim) you are fine.

 

Then the MOT testers you've asked are mistaken...

 

It's covered in section 4.1.4 and the defect would be "(c) Light source and lamp not compatible": https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/4-lamps-reflectors-and-electrical-equipment#section-4-1-4

 

A ‘light source’ means any bulb, LED or other means of emitting light and your headlamps are only certified for use with halogen bulbs thus a HID or LED is a failure.

And if I'm not mistaken mot testing is getting tighter than ever...............I suppose if you get away with it however...........

Maybe you just buy an ballast for theese LED's?

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49 minutes ago, Thonern said:

Maybe you just buy an ballast for theese LED's?

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Kits like those have definitely blown up bcm's previously...

43 minutes ago, langers2k said:

 

Kits like those have definitely blown up bcm's previously...

Okay?

Maybe better on older cars, I have used a kit like this since 2008, on my Octavia 2.👍

7 hours ago, langers2k said:

 

Then the MOT testers you've asked are mistaken...

 

It's covered in section 4.1.4 and the defect would be "(c) Light source and lamp not compatible": https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/4-lamps-reflectors-and-electrical-equipment#section-4-1-4

 

A ‘light source’ means any bulb, LED or other means of emitting light and your headlamps are only certified for use with halogen bulbs thus a HID or LED is a failure.

My car the HID was an option they are the same light fittings, I have the projectors, I looked at the retrofit for self leveling etc but havent done it as yet so what you mention doesnt apply to the lights on the car, but thank you for bringing it up.

8 hours ago, Mark598 said:

My car the HID was an option they are the same light fittings, I have the projectors, I looked at the retrofit for self leveling etc but havent done it as yet so what you mention doesnt apply to the lights on the car, but thank you for bringing it up.

 

I do a fare amount of driving and plenty in the dark at this time of year so the fewer cars with non-compliant headlights the better. I have no issue with people wanting better/brighter lighting but especially with headlights, it should be done properly. At the very least with a basic understanding of laws/regulations and the differences/challenges between lighting technologies.

 

While both halogen and HID options use projectors on a MK2 Superb, this does not mean the light fittings are the same...

 

 

There is a misconception that projector headlights are perfectly fine for HID/LED drop in kits because the cutoff is good. Despite this, there will be changes in the light pattern under the cutoff. When designed for HID, the projector is tuned to move the extra light to where it's most useful rather than just making everything brighter. The motors used to move the projector are also different, halogen versions only move vertically and have no feedback to confirm the projector position. HID versions have two motors to move vertically and horizontally, both have feedback to allow the AFS/headlight controller to make constant adjustments.

 

As for the MOT, your headlights have a series of ECE markings one them to show exactly what they've been tested and certified with. Below is an example of a MK2 FL Superb halogen headlight. The markings are A RL HR HC - it's the HR HC that shows this light fitting is only compatible with halogen main/dipped beams. These markings are probably stamped into the plastic body of the headlight and possibly the lens. If these headlights were fitted with a HID or LED dipped/main beam, they are not compatible and it should be an MOT failure as mentioned above.

 

There are more examples of the ECE markings here: https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/codes/codes.html

 

 

1 hour ago, langers2k said:

As for the MOT, your headlights have a series of ECE markings one them to show exactly what they've been tested and certified with. Below is an example of a MK2 FL Superb halogen headlight. The markings are A RL HR HC - it's the HR HC that shows this light fitting is only compatible with halogen main/dipped beams. These markings are probably stamped into the plastic body of the headlight and possibly the lens. If these headlights were fitted with a HID or LED dipped/main beam, they are not compatible and it should be an MOT failure as mentioned above.

The key word being 'should' in my experience many (most?) MOT testers are on tight time schedules and if the beam pattern gets a pass from their light tester then they will not search around for the relevant labelling.

 

I know of several cars near where I live that have HIDs retrofitted into Halogen only headlights... and all have passed the 'tougher' MOT since May 2018.

5 hours ago, langers2k said:

 

I do a fare amount of driving and plenty in the dark at this time of year so the fewer cars with non-compliant headlights the better. I have no issue with people wanting better/brighter lighting but especially with headlights, it should be done properly. At the very least with a basic understanding of laws/regulations and the differences/challenges between lighting technologies.

 

While both halogen and HID options use projectors on a MK2 Superb, this does not mean the light fittings are the same...

 

 

There is a misconception that projector headlights are perfectly fine for HID/LED drop in kits because the cutoff is good. Despite this, there will be changes in the light pattern under the cutoff. When designed for HID, the projector is tuned to move the extra light to where it's most useful rather than just making everything brighter. The motors used to move the projector are also different, halogen versions only move vertically and have no feedback to confirm the projector position. HID versions have two motors to move vertically and horizontally, both have feedback to allow the AFS/headlight controller to make constant adjustments.

 

As for the MOT, your headlights have a series of ECE markings one them to show exactly what they've been tested and certified with. Below is an example of a MK2 FL Superb halogen headlight. The markings are A RL HR HC - it's the HR HC that shows this light fitting is only compatible with halogen main/dipped beams. These markings are probably stamped into the plastic body of the headlight and possibly the lens. If these headlights were fitted with a HID or LED dipped/main beam, they are not compatible and it should be an MOT failure as mentioned above.

 

There are more examples of the ECE markings here: https://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/codes/codes.html

 

 

as a matter of interest how much do you think it would be for full retrofit of HID, ive come from a BMW with them fitted and with other features, since i purchased i've found all sorts with the skoda, where with BMW retrofitting was so much easier, and i really miss the light so after some research i cam up with this plan, any of the LEDs i've used are DOT approved and have original plug fittings, claiming to be canbus error free, correct light as in direct replacement and beam pattern once fitted and i am now happy with there output etc.

my car is a 2015 MKii and from places where i have visited they almost all say my car has some stuff that others don't with it been a very late model(was made april 2015) its as if they have had a load of parts left over and put them in my car lol.

DOT approval doesn't matter, they need to be either E-marked or British Standard (BS) marked. There is no legislation that allows for HID or LED as a halogen replacements to it's impossible for for them to have either.

 

When I added factory xenons to my FL MK2 Octavia it was around the £650 mark.

 

Your Superb is very similar electronically so I expect it'll be a similar amount. The headlights are the most expensive part although Superb parts are more common, just make sure they come with all the control modules attached as that'll make you life easier. Apart from the headlights, it's two level sensors (front and rear), the AFS master control module and a bunch of wiring. To complete the retrofit, you should remove the headlight range dial as it won't do anything.

 

There are a few pictures from when I did mine here: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/391916-fl-xenon-retrofit/