I will adopt that phrase Mac!

10 hours ago, MRB007 said:

What about the following option?

https://www.oemvwshop.com/1k0411105aq-coil-spring-p253355/

 

84.05 Euros plus VAT is about £180 for both front springs, and that doesn't include shipping.

 

The Sachs 993044 are £68 for both front springs on ebay including postage.

 

The following brands are listed on autodoc with only OEM part number 1K0411105AQ being shown so they might be a close copy of the original in some cases:

 

Borsehung

Denkermann

Eibach

Febi Bilstein

IPSA

JP-Group

Kilen

KYB

Lesjofors

Magnum

Maxgear

Optimal

Sachs

Spidan

Stark

Suplex

SWAG

Triscan

TRW

 

However, many of these brands I suspect will come from cheap Chinese factories producing goods of dubious quality. Caveat emptor as they say in Latin.

 

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/1k0411105aq?search=OEN+1K0411105AQ&supplier[0]=112&supplier[1]=4815&supplier[2]=383&supplier[3]=101&supplier[4]=10018&supplier[5]=10180&supplier[6]=85&supplier[7]=253&supplier[8]=11006&supplier[9]=10721&supplier[10]=129&supplier[11]=32&supplier[12]=100001&supplier[13]=10708&supplier[14]=108&supplier[15]=833&supplier[16]=246&supplier[17]=1&supplier[18]=1156&supplier[19]=108&supplier[20]=833&supplier[21]=1&supplier[22]=100001&supplier[23]=129&supplier[24]=10721&supplier[25]=11006&supplier[26]=85&supplier[27]=101&supplier[28]=383&supplier[29]=4815&supplier[30]=10180&supplier[31]=112&supplier[32]=10018&supplier[33]=253&supplier[34]=32&supplier[35]=10708&supplier[36]=1156&supplier[37]=246

 

Edited 2 December, 20205 yr by Carlston

Lesjofors are made in Sweden where they know a bit about steel & coilwinding.

 

I paid €21 each in August of this year.

 

Qparts24.de

Edited 2 December, 20205 yr by J.R.

17 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Lesjofors are made in Sweden where they know a bit about steel & coilwinding.

 

I paid €21 each in August of this year.

 

 Lesjofors 4095079 looks like a good choice for the front springs on the Skoda Octavia MK2 1.6TDI with manual gearbox. They match OEM part number 1K0411105AQ. Available on ebay for £18 each if you buy two.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coil-Spring-fits-VOLKSWAGEN-EOS-1F-1-4-Front-07-to-15-Suspension-LESJOFORS/133500092506?epid=11035121187&hash=item1f1539c05a%3Ag%3AaIMAAOSwaKJfQSvd&LH_ItemCondition=1000

 

Edited 2 December, 20205 yr by Carlston

Just called a main dealer £216 inc VAT for the pair!!!!! 

Yeah, when I linked to that ebay ad showing a genuine spring, it was just to show you the paint marks, not as a suggestion of what to buy.

 

We know genuine VW group springs aren't as good as they used to be, cos they keep breaking!  

Broke my wallet!

I've used Kilen springs before and they are same quality as original at fraction of the price and still rust free after 5 years.

Not a bad price !

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coil-Spring-fits-VOLKSWAGEN-EOS-1F-1-4-Front-07-to-15-Suspension-Kilen-Quality/233698520259?hash=item3669846cc3:g:znYAAOSwiZpfTfm-

As long as you match it to the Kilen parts catalogue to your car you will be fine.  I only fitted one front spring and it was a perfect match as I know you are suppose to replace them in pairs for best results but I didn't have an issues.

Contacted this sellor about there Kilen springs and the model that I had found using the OEM part number was wrong.

 

They suggest that I use the following springs

We do have the correct part you need which can be found here:
KILEN COIL SPRING FRONT LEFT 14124
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333730617419

KILEN COIL SPRING FRONT RIGHT 14125
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333778732094

 

 

Very odd. The OE springs are the same on both sides, so why would aftermarket ones be different? 

 

Edited 4 December, 20205 yr by Wino

Maybe because they are springs for a Honda & they use handed ones?

 

The Lesjofors cross references are also different part numbers.

@J.R. That's because I was a **** Head and put the wrong reg down when I sent them an email.

 

Good Spot SIR!!!!!

 

I have contacted them and shall report my findings once I get a reply

 

How lucky for you that you posted the link!

Just about to edit my last post that cast aspersions on the ebay seller!

Edited 4 December, 20205 yr by Wino

You can also double check the part numbers yourself on the Kilen website

 

https://www.kilensprings.com/springs-catalouges/onlinecatalogue.asp

Kilen 25061 and Lesjofors 4095079 are the same spring and made in the same factory in Sweden. They are both an identical replacement for OEM part number 1K0411105AQ or at least they should be as Kilen/Lesjofors both match them to OEM part number 1K0411105AQ and no other part number.

 

Edited 4 December, 20205 yr by Carlston

I just ordered Bilstein shocks and coils. mine is VRS so sports suspension. But other VAG sites swear by Bilstein. 
https://www.bilstein.com/uk/en/products-and-services/

I used skodaparts, very helpful and competitive, websitecsays colours od dots and part nos.

 

https://www.skoda-parts.com/catalog/octavia-2/spare-parts/chassis/front-axle/coil-springs-111.html

This has prompted me many thanks!!!

 

The seller has got back to me and the original listing on ebay I found was correct for my car. This was after the whole REG plate mess up

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coil-Spring-fits-VOLKSWAGEN-EOS-1F-1-4-Front-07-to-15-Suspension-Kilen-Quality/233698520259?hash=item3669846cc3:g:znYAAOSwiZpfTfm-

 

 

7 hours ago, pmdc199 said:

I just ordered Bilstein shocks and coils. mine is VRS so sports suspension. But other VAG sites swear by Bilstein. 

 

I suspect in many cases, Bilstein shock absorbers are actually Lesjofors/Kilen.

 

If for example, a Skoda Octavia MK2 1.6TDI hatchback has rear springs with OEM part number 1K0511115BE then the Bilstein 36-134076 rear shock absorbers is used to replace both OEM part numbers 1K0511115BE and 1K0511115BF. Bilstein 36-134076 can't match both these OEM numbers because they have different specifications, with 1K0511115BF being slightly heavier duty than 1K0511115BE. Kilen 63117 and Lesjofors 4285718 both have the same one size fits all approach. Spring manufacturers do this to save money. It's cheaper for them to make just one spring that they can sell to replace more than one specification of spring.

 

However, Sachs 994414 is sold to replace OEM part number 1K0511115BE and no other OEM part number. This means that it's probably the same specification as OEM 1K0511115BE.

 

Sachs replacement rear springs for OEM part number 1K0511115BE

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/1k0511115be?search=OEN+1K0511115BE&supplier[0]=32&supplier[1]=16&supplier[2]=246&supplier[3]=253&supplier[4]=246&supplier[5]=16&supplier[6]=253

 

Edited 9 December, 20205 yr by Carlston

Interesting, I was going to put Sachs springs on mine. I have them for is rear. Then I ordered the Bilsten to compare them next to each other.The Bilsten are still on route.

 

The Sachs is 994454 - oem 1K0511115BS which is only for Skoda VRS estate. Plus fits some Golf 6’s.

 

where as the Bilstein are only for the RS

36-199655, (maybe fits other cars but thats all that they list)

 

 

13 hours ago, pmdc199 said:

Interesting, I was going to put Sachs springs on mine. I have them for is rear. Then I ordered the Bilsten to compare them next to each other.The Bilsten are still on route.

 

The Sachs is 994454 - oem 1K0511115BS which is only for Skoda RS estate. Plus fits some Golf 6’s.

 

where as the Bilstein are only for the RS

36-199655, (maybe fits other cars but thats all that they list)

 

Kilen's online coil spring catalogue lists the Skoda Octavia MK2 RS hatchback as having rear spring OEM number 1K0511115BS and the estate as having rear spring OEM number 1K0511115BT

 

Many aftermarket springs are sold to replace both these OEM numbers, so that you would end up having the same rear springs whether you had the hatchback or the estate version of the Octavia MK2 RS.

 

If you have an Octavia MK2 RS hatchback, it might also be worth considering OEM number 1K0511115BQ for the rear springs, as according to the gknautomotive.com online catalogue the 1K0511115BQ version is 9mm shorter than the 1K0511115BS/1K0511115BT version, with everything else such as thickness and number of coil turns being the same. The estate is probably a little heavier at the back than the estate, so using estate rear springs on a hatchback would raise the ride height.

 

You can access the Kilen online coil spring catalogue here:

 

https://www.kilensprings.com/springs-catalouges/onlinecatalogue.asp

 

If you are interested in OEM number 1K0511115BQ for the rear springs on your Octavia MK2 RS, avoid Bilstein, Kilen, Lesjofors, and KYB. These brands think that it's OK to sell the same aftermarket spring to replace both OEM number 1K0511115GC and 1K0511115BQ. These springs have a very different spring rate, with 1K0511115GC having a 11.25mm thickness and 1K0511115BQ having a 11.75mm thickness.

 

Optimal and Sachs springs that are sold to replace OEM number 1K0511115BQ are listed as having 366mm length. This I suspect is incorrect, and should be 321mm in length. Fortunately, it's easy to measure a new coil spring with a tape measure to within a few millimetres. Before fitting a pair of new springs, always check length, thickness, diameter, weight, number of coil turns, and make sure they are a matched pair. They should weigh within a few grams of each other if they are a matched pair.

 

Edited 10 December, 20205 yr by Carlston

8 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

Kilen's online coil spring catalogue lists the Skoda Octavia MK2 RS hatchback as having rear spring OEM number 1K0511115BS and the estate as having rear spring OEM number 1K0511115BT

 

Many aftermarket springs are sold to replace both these OEM numbers, so that you would end up having the same rear springs whether you had the hatchback or the estate version of the Octavia MK2 RS.

 

If you have an Octavia MK2 RS hatchback, it might also be worth considering OEM number 1K0511115BQ for the rear springs, as according to the gknautomotive.com online catalogue the 1K0511115BQ version is 9mm shorter than the 1K0511115BS/1K0511115BT version, with everything else such as thickness and number of coil turns being the same. The estate is probably a little heavier at the back than the estate, so using estate rear springs on a hatchback would raise the ride height.

 

You can access the Kilen online coil spring catalogue here:

 

https://www.kilensprings.com/springs-catalouges/onlinecatalogue.asp

 

If you are interested in OEM number 1K0511115BQ for the rear springs on your Octavia MK2 RS, avoid Bilstein, Kilen, Lesjofors, and KYB. These brands think that it's OK to sell the same aftermarket spring to replace both OEM number 1K0511115GC and 1K0511115BQ. These springs have a very different spring rate, with 1K0511115GC having a 11.25mm thickness and 1K0511115BQ having a 11.75mm thickness.

 

Optimal and Sachs springs that are sold to replace OEM number 1K0511115BQ are listed as having 366mm length. This I suspect is incorrect, and should be 321mm in length. Fortunately, it's easy to measure a new coil spring with a tape measure to within a few millimetres. Before fitting a pair of new springs, always check length, thickness, diameter, weight, number of coil turns, and make sure they are a matched pair. They should weigh within a few grams of each other if they are a matched pair.

 

you are good. I found that out too yesterday. The Bilstein lists it as BT part ending. That’s why I want to physically compare them.

But even the drawings on the vw catalogue lists more spring codes. 
 

I also wonder what the technical difference is between the coils for estate and hatch back.

 

Are the estates a larger diameter?