How to: Retrofit Virtual Cockpit

[Tin82]

Last week I retrofitted a VC to my Superb 2.0 tdi MY18.

Because the info on this subject is scattered all over this and other forums I decided to bundle it into a how-to.

First of all a big thank you to RomanB, langers2k, Richie2019 and Camarao69 for the help with coding and with finding the correct parts.

Before you start, make sure your car is able to do the retrofit. As I understand it, you will need a Mib 2.5 and also the correct gateway to be able to have a map display in the VC. If the part number of your gateway starts with 3Q0 it should work. Maybe also with other part numbers, but you will have to check. You can check the part number of your gateway with VCDS.

What about Amundsen? I have read that with certain types of Amundsen it should also be able to show maps on VC. But coding is a bit different. And, as I don’t have Amundsen, I can’t really tell.

I ordered the VC on ali:

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001320853346.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dWnYaQ3

 

This VC comes with the optical MOST cable you will need for display of maps on the VC.
Before you order, send the seller a message and ask for a discount. Also ask for him to declare a lower value (+/- 100 dollar) to customs. I paid around 60 euro import tax based on this value.

If you have the CANTON sound system, you will need a Most splitter.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001590588805.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dWnYaQ3

 

 

Or

 

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/33003652246.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dysj90l

 

(about the MOST splitters: I ordered both, but you will only need one of them. The first link looked like the better quality item, but it had 2 male connectors and 1 female. What you need is 1 male and 2 female connectors. The VC came with a spare female connector, so I used this spare connector to convert the splitter into 1 male and 2 female. It’s easy, just mind the arrows on the connector. They depict the data stream direction. The item from the second link is ready to be installed and does not need to changed. However just eyeballing it, it did not look as good as the one in the first link.)

Vag audio removal tools: You need 4 pieces.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001502327510.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.61f03aa8VhZ892&algo_pvid=87f048ac-c0af-469f-a3a5-aa59929ac254&algo_expid=87f048ac-c0af-469f-a3a5-aa59929ac254-0&btsid=0bb0624716157231348261767efc60&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

Trim removal tools:

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32963954415.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.477d61553u3Dn4&algo_pvid=40621dfe-6b26-4916-954e-3a1a0de8cdfc&algo_expid=40621dfe-6b26-4916-954e-3a1a0de8cdfc-0&btsid=0bb0623d16157232258103800e5d6b&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

And a Vas5054a for pairing the keys to the cluster via remote coding.

Links to a Vas5054a come and go. They don’t work for long. Look on ali and read the reviews. Disregard complaints about the software as you will not need to install it. Often there are choices in quality. Choose the best one available. Bluetooth is not necessary, I just used a usb cable. And you will also need a windows laptop.

I also ordered a screen protector for the mib 2.5 and for the VC. Just to protect them while do the installation:

 

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32931529165.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dtJsu3p

 

and

 

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001805982326.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dtJsu3p

 

 

And of course you will also need a VCDS-cable or a similar device.



Wait until the parts arrive and, in the meantime, find an online coding service for pairing the keys to new cluster, remove component protection and to set the odometer to the correct setting.

I used: 

Vag retrofit and Coding.

Telegram: https://t.me/vagretrofit

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/vagretrofitcoding/

Cost: 75 euro for 2 keys and 100 euro for 3 keys. Maybe there are cheaper/better alternatives, but this worked for me. The VAS 5054a comes with software. You do not have to install this software for use with a online coding service. You will only need to install TeamViewer.



Before you start tinkering: Make an autoscan with VCDS and save the log to your computer. This saved my ass, because after the online coding of the VC, my sunroof lost it’s coding. With the autoscan available it was easy to fix.

I also made screenshots from every byte of my old cluster, using the long coding helper (example, of just one byte, below) With this, it’s easier to setup the VC.



See the service manual how to unclip the various trim parts. There is a certain sequence in releasing the clips.

 

 

 

Before I used the online coding service, I installed the MOST cable. It was a pain. The wires behind the Mib unit in the glovebox were too short.  So I needed to dismount the entire glovebox to get access.I connected the MOST splitter to the existing MOST cable and the new MOST cable. Removed the Mib headunit and old cluster to pull the new MOST cable in place. If you don’t have CANTON there may be a protective cover over the MOST connector on the Mib. After you have pulled the MOST cable into position, reconnect your Mib headunit. It needs to be connected while the online coding is being done. This it to remove component protection. Also reconnect your old cluster. You will need it connected at the start of online coding. I also tested my audio, just to be sure it was working after the MOST splitter install.

A video which gives an idea how to remove the cluster:
 

 

 

(the screws are behind the left and right trim parts. Not under the center one)

A picture from pulling the cable:

 

 

 

After all this you can start with the online coding process. Have all you keys readily available. It took 2 full hours in my case.

When you install the VC, make sure to remove the grey protector in the MOST connector on the VC:

After the online coding you can start your car, but your dash will light up with faults because of the lack of coding.

 

Coding the cluster:

I now took all my screenshots of the long coding from my old cluster to code the VC. Just one note:

Leave Byte 0 bit 1 unchecked. It will give an ‘’entry out of range” error message if you try to code it.

 

After you coded everything in, the error messages will disappear. Just take caution with your fuel gauge and make sure it is accurate so you don’t run out of fuel. My fuel gauge tends to read fuller than with the old cluster so I don’t trust it yet and may change the coding on it.

 

Coding 5F (mib):

Long coding:

Uncheck byte 22 bit 0:

Make sure MOST is on (for non CANTON cars) Byte 19 bit 5

Adaptation (5F):

For imaging through MOST:

-          ENG122230-ENG142097-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-ability_switch_nav_maps,OFF

-          ENG122230-ENG122343-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-call_picture,On

-          ENG122230-ENG122341-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-coverart,On

-          ENG122230-ENG122340-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-crossroad_detail_map_compression_mode,H264

-          ENG122230-ENG122344-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-crossroad_detail_map_resolution,resolution_3

-          ENG122230-ENG127006-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-crossroad_detail_map_transmission_mode,MOST_streaming

-          ENG122230-ENG142153-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-dynamic_icon,0

-          ENG122230-ENG127501-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-fastlist_most,On

-          ENG122230-ENG122338-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-navigation_map_compression_mode,H264

-          ENG122230-ENG122339-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-navigation_map_resolution,resolution_3

-          ENG122230-ENG127005-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-navigation_map_transmission_mode,MOST_streaming

-          ENG122230-ENG122342-Dashboard_Display_Configuration-stationart,On

 

For the Virtual Cockpit menu on the MIB:

-          IDE11524-ENG137043-Vehicle function list bap 2nd generation: expansion-display_configuration_0x45, Activated

-          IDE11524-ENG137044-Vehicle function list bap 2nd generation: expansion-display_configuration_0x45_msg_bus, Comfort data bus

-          ENG122227-ENG142087-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Display_Configuration, Activated

-          ENG122227-ENG142088-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Display_Configuration_clamp_15_off, Not Activated

-          ENG122227-ENG142089-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Display_Configuration_over_threshold_high, Activated

-          ENG122227-ENG142090-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Display_Configuration_standstill, Not Activated

-          ENG122227-ENG142091-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_Display_Configuration_after_disclaimer, Not Activated

Now restart the MIB. (hold power button until it reboots)

 

You now have the normal dial VC:

 

 If you want to have the carbon look:

17 – instrument, adaptation:

 

-          IDE12467-Tubes illustration, Variant 3

-          IDE02489-Display depiction, Variant 1 or 3 (can’t remember which one)

 

If you want to change the end value of your speedometer because of reasons:

 

17 – instrument, adaptation:

IDE13094-Tachometer end value. I used setting Variant 1 for 280kmph. Might be different for MPH.

 

Trim Piece

 

I needed I new trim piece which is now on order. As I understood the partnumber you need can be easily obtained.

Note the partnumber on the white label of your old trim piece.

In my case 3V0 857 053 N77. N77 is the colour code for my trim piece. To obtain the part nr for the new trim piece just add an ‘A’ after 053. So in my case: 3V0 857 053A N77 is the part nr for the new trim piece.

 

There is also the possibility to fit new MFSW buttons with a VIEW button.

- 3V0 919 719 E (manual)

- 3V0 919 719 F (DSG)

- 3V0 919 719 G (manual + heated)

- 3V0 919 719 H (DSG + heated)

 

I've been told that DSG versions work in manual cars and that heated versions work without heated wheels. I did not fit these buttons yet so I do not know if these part numbers are fully correct.

 

If there are any omissions or errors please do tell.

Also feel free to add more adaptations.

 

Edited 14 March, 2021 by Tin82
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[Chet]

Great thread @Tin82

 

The steering wheel buttons I got supplied with do not have the connectors for the DSG paddles. Part number 3VD 919 719 B 

 

The footprint for the connector and associated circuitry is on the button pcb just unpopulated

 

 

[AlVal]

does the bcm module sometimes need changing also?

can anyone add where the gateway module is located? thanks!

[Tin82]

18 hours ago, AlVal said:

does the bcm module sometimes need changing also?

can anyone add where the gateway module is located? thanks!

I think @Camarao69 might know this. 

[Camarao69]

Hello, Great post, 

If you want everything to work correctly for exemple ambiente color in virtual cockpit  in 2016  cars  you need newer BCM and gateway.

[Camarao69]

This post showld be pinned.

[AlVal]

3 hours ago, Camarao69 said:

Hello, Great post, 

If you want everything to work correctly for exemple ambiente color in virtual cockpit  in 2016  cars  you need newer BCM and gateway.

Thanks! Do you happen to know the part numbers? 

[Camarao69]

You will have to get

 

5q0937084CQ bcm it can be DD

3Q0907530L Gateway or higher

 

BCM takes a lot of experience to retrofit.

[Gagaetan10]

Hello all!

I gona to retrofit my skoda superb my 2017(10/2017) with mib 2.5(dp3) and acc+lane assist with the AID 

 

I contact the retrofit company by fb its now 80e to 2 key programed 

 

I need to know the Components protection should be disabled before changing the cluster by aid? 

 

Thank you 

 

 

[Tin82]

With me, the coding company removed the component protection after pairing the keys to the new cluster. 

[langers2k]

When I had my VC fitted, they did component protection, odometer (new cluster), immobiliser and the key pairing using ODIS (remotely using a VAS5054a).

 

Might be worth checking if the company are using ODIS and will do all the above...?

[ApertureS]

4 hours ago, langers2k said:

When I had my VC fitted, they did component protection, odometer (new cluster), immobiliser and the key pairing using ODIS (remotely using a VAS5054a).

 

Might be worth checking if the company are using ODIS and will do all the above...?

It can only be done with odis and a valid geko security account.

this is needed for key coding and component protection 

[Gagaetan10]

Hey everyone 

 

I just swap my cluster by a VC, the hardest part of disassembly was to now how to remove trim and cluster, otherwise the rest was very easy to do, 

 

But sadly after processing by remote coding by VAG retrofit, I had sunroof open need to obtain a better 4g signal to share with my Pc but once the vc cockpit in place COMPONENTS PROTECTION DISABLED 

Key programed 

Some stuff arranged 

 

My roof doest react at all I had to manually close the roof by disassembly the ceiling light end use Allen key n4... 

 

My vcds doesn't seem to work with CA module I try to self reset by holding press on closure function it had work but just partially it can tilt normally, sliding just a little bit, I also loose comfort function but I guess it's due to missing calibration 

 

Anyone can help me? A way to follow 

 

Thanks all 

[Gagaetan10]

A picture of the rendering 

[Gagaetan10]

Hi everybody, anyone know how to change car representation on virtual cockpit I have a combi and the representative view on VC is a berline

[Raunaq96]

On 30/09/2021 at 10:22, Gagaetan10 said:

Hey everyone 

 

I just swap my cluster by a VC, the hardest part of disassembly was to now how to remove trim and cluster, otherwise the rest was very easy to do, 

 

But sadly after processing by remote coding by VAG retrofit, I had sunroof open need to obtain a better 4g signal to share with my Pc but once the vc cockpit in place COMPONENTS PROTECTION DISABLED 

Key programed 

Some stuff arranged 

 

My roof doest react at all I had to manually close the roof by disassembly the ceiling light end use Allen key n4... 

 

My vcds doesn't seem to work with CA module I try to self reset by holding press on closure function it had work but just partially it can tilt normally, sliding just a little bit, I also loose comfort function but I guess it's due to missing calibration 

 

Anyone can help me? A way to follow 

 

Thanks all 

Hi !

 

Did you find a fix for the sunroof?

I’m facing the same problem. 
The sunroof has stopped responding and keys have also lost its convenience functions.
 

Thanks in Advance.
Please do reply.  

[Gagaetan10]

Sadly not yet, my vcds clone aren't compatible with the CA sunroof, and last think I could do is to try with Odis otherwise I'll go to my car dealer 

[Raunaq96]

Mine is working now. 
Put your car in ignition. Try pressing the sunroof button down (Not front or back) for 10 seconds. Like what you when the sunroof is on tilt and you have to close it. 
It’ll recalibrate and start working as normal. Atleast mine did when I followed the above steps. 
 

 

[Gagaetan10]

I had already try to do this but it's tilt and no comfort function or total opening, I have the same with sunshade

[Gagaetan10]

Hello everyone, so I m come back, I'havent yet successfully set my sunroof/sunblind even with Odis when I start a guided function to make a parametrization it end by a fail not normed... 

 

I don't know what to do 

 

Other thing on my 5f infotainment I couldn't obtain the personalization menu for the virtual cockpit 

 

And a last thing the picture show on VC isn't a Combi version it instead a Berline look 

 

Thanks everybody for your help 

[ApertureS]

3 hours ago, Gagaetan10 said:

Hello everyone, so I m come back, I'havent yet successfully set my sunroof/sunblind even with Odis when I start a guided function to make a parametrization it end by a fail not normed... 

 

I don't know what to do 

 

Other thing on my 5f infotainment I couldn't obtain the personalization menu for the virtual cockpit 

 

And a last thing the picture show on VC isn't a Combi version it instead a Berline look 

 

Thanks everybody for your help 

Have you tried just running the sun roof and blind back and forth a few times.  Go to the test plan tab and it will already be there. 
 

changing the car displayed should match your original coding so should be the same, if it doesn’t it’s a coding issue.

 

What software and method did you use for the 5F menu?

[Gagaetan10]

7 hours ago, ApertureS said:

Have you tried just running the sun roof and blind back and forth a few times.  Go to the test plan tab and it will already be there. 
 

changing the car displayed should match your original coding so should be the same, if it doesn’t it’s a coding issue.

 

What software and method did you use for the 5F menu?

Hey, yes I tried many time to run the sun and blind back and forth, maintain the back buton 20second, the forward same, it goes back and forth a bit only 15cm and no more 

 

Maybe should I totally open it manually to reparametrize all? 🤔 

 

About 5f 

I use the méthode in first post who said I need to adapt some line on vcds adaptation menu but somes of them could be activate with 

[Bap33]

Amazing work! Great job.

I would really be tempted. But a bit too tricky for me. I would fear something goes wrong or I couldn't code something correctly afterwards.

[ApertureS]

5 hours ago, Gagaetan10 said:

Hey, yes I tried many time to run the sun and blind back and forth, maintain the back buton 20second, the forward same, it goes back and forth a bit only 15cm and no more 

 

Maybe should I totally open it manually to reparametrize all? 🤔 

 

About 5f 

I use the méthode in first post who said I need to adapt some line on vcds adaptation menu but somes of them could be activate with 

I had same issue it would keep failing on vcds adaptations. Instead use odis-e for the 5F adaptations and it works perfectly.

[Gagaetan10]

On 20/11/2021 at 07:55, ApertureS said:

Have you tried just running the sun roof and blind back and forth a few times.  Go to the test plan tab and it will already be there. 
 

changing the car displayed should match your original coding so should be the same, if it doesn’t it’s a coding issue.

 

What software and method did you use for the 5F menu?

So you mean on the test plan I could move it manually controlled by odis? 

 

Because I tried many times to set with the closure button, for both 

 

And about odis-e means to have a geko account