Has anyone watched this latest video by JayEmm on Cars, if so I wonder what your thoughts are about what he is claiming in it?

At the very least it would appear that he has some sound ethics and is not willing to sell his soul, or at least that's my opinion, yours may vary and that is fine.

He has brought up this topic before, but Suing content creators is another leap.

He who pays the Piper calls the tune?

Edited 22 June, 202522 Jun by Stonekeeper

He is a bit casual regarding facts.

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Did TESLA take Jeremy Clarkson to court?

They attempted to sue the BBC.

So TESLA sued the BBC for libel because of what Jeremy Clarkson said on Top Gear 2008 review of the Tesla Roadster.

The UK courts ultimately rejected Tesla's claim and dismissed the lawsuit and they lost the appeal.

I seem to remember the E for Electric channel revealing that he had been cancelled by VW if not some others, I can’t recall, when he wasn’t 100% favourable to their products. He subsequently seemed to become extremely disillusioned with the whole of the USA and left the country.

The whole “influencer “ scene is clearly open to abuse but I guess the car magazines and newspaper articles of the pre internet age were probably appropriately biased according to how they’d been treated…

Edited 22 June, 202522 Jun by classic

17 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Octopus doing free electricity between 2pm and 3pm today.

Garages doing some free fuel to compete ? A few litres maybe. BOGOF on the first 4 litres.

Be careful making that sort of comparison. Next you know, people might be think electricity can leak into the ground or spread fire by flowing like river, like petrol/diesel. 😜

Petrol station can definitely pollute a lot more than simply supplying the source of pollutant:

BBC News

Bramley: Fuel leak clean-up will take years, residents told

Bramley residents hear updates on a fuel leak after 600 residents were left without water in June.

"Asda paid the village £512,000 in October as compensation for the disruption."

Pocket change operational costs to the petrol station. Can't even cover 1 year of clean up operation. But must keep the petrol station open despite needing years of clean up.

It seems that BYD is not alone, MG, here in the UK are also, along with their dealers trying to silence owners regarding issues with the cars which could even be dangerous. I have not posted any links, but could do so, or provide them by DM if requested. I really don't want to be constantly bashing EV's although no doubt some will think otherwise.

Edited 23 June, 202523 Jun by Graham Butcher

? What is the safety issue please with the MG EV,s.? Anything to do with the one that allegedly Kidnapped the gent from the Glasgow area? I can not believe with his Social Media presence that there has been no more on that story. This thread is about The truth of EV,s,'. Facts can not be anti, libel, defaming of the likes. If it happening it should be public and open to discussion. If just a Chinese whispers then maybe not.

Edited 23 June, 202523 Jun by Ootohere

I did a search. MG EV owners in the UK being silenced. AI and other Google results were showing the same old same old.

30 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

? What is the safety issue please with the MG EV,s.? Anything to do with the one that allegedly Kidnapped the gent from the Glasgow area? I can not believe with his Social Media presence that there has been no more on that story. This thread is about The truth of EV,s,'. Facts can not be anti, libel, defaming of the likes. If it happening it should be public and open to discussion. If just a Chinese whispers then maybe not.

Its to do with the X Power model and vibration and rattles from the steering at approx 65 to 70mph. Do a Google Search for "xpower vibration" and it will appear for you, its all over the MG forums and is a known fault to MG and they said said that a damper fitted to the steering will cure it, but apparently not as it happens. They are doubling down legal moves on the poor owner who only wants it resolved.

Also has issues with lane assist, sometimes steering the car out of the lane into another lane.

Two videos attached tell the problem along with all the legal moves being pulled.

Edited 23 June, 202523 Jun by Graham Butcher

MG (at least in New Zealand) are acknowledging the issue from what I can see:

https://evsandbeyond.co.nz/mg-to-tweak-xpower-over-vibration/

VAG also had the infamous water pump issue. Most were not fixed under warranty. Many vehicles have underlying faults. Cars are complex machinery.

I guess difference here is someone on social media used "wanted me silenced" for clicks and the gullible laps it up.

At least when road testing you can feel the issue before 4 seconds have elapsed.

2 hours ago, wyx087 said:

MG (at least in New Zealand) are acknowledging the issue from what I can see:

https://evsandbeyond.co.nz/mg-to-tweak-xpower-over-vibration/

VAG also had the infamous water pump issue. Most were not fixed under warranty. Many vehicles have underlying faults. Cars are complex machinery.

I guess difference here is someone on social media used "wanted me silenced" for clicks and the gullible laps it up.

MG has the lowest reliability of any brand in the recent What Car survey.

VAG seem to lose its quality, and value, reputation around 2010 I feel. The stories about VAG car plants in Germany, several reported by Electric Viking, are a sad story of the mighty fallen.

Good to see Mini, including GWM, up the top of the survey and Dacia and Renault, which i see as the value ie quality with fair price, acknowledged for their good performance over the last decade and a half. Miss those great Skoda VRSs and L&Ks, cheap but awesome.

So it would seem that the YouTuber is correct about the vibration and rattling at least and MG UK are denying it and trying gag him, probably on instructions from their Chinese HQ which also looks as if it backs up the story by JayEmm.

Is it MG UK trying to gag and not just a dealership? Well that is simple enough to get out to the Motoring Journals and the Press. Not as hard as it was with VW Group and any issues that Haymarket Media Group, Autocar / What car and Dennis Publishing Auto Express were deaf dumb and blind to.

Edited 23 June, 202523 Jun by Ootohere

BBC News

How China made electric vehicles mainstream

The world's second largest economy is both the biggest producer and buyer of EVs.

"I drive an electric vehicle because I am poor," says Lu Yunfeng, a private hire driver"

"The rich drive petrol cars because they have unlimited resources," Mr Lu says. "An EV just makes sense for me."

Weirdly the main reason I switched from ICE to EV was also to save money.

My monthly diesel bill was around £130 back around 2016 when diesel costed £1. House electricity bill was probably around £30-£50. I remember DD was £80 back then.

Now my whole house monthly electricity bill is £40-£80 depending on season, similar to "typical household" despite powering 2 EV's.

Yes folks, its the Taycan man again, sorry, but he has just discovered that EV cars since about 2010 have been fitted with a black box recorder that records every detail of what is / has been happening in your car. He has been banging on about the switch to EV cars is about control and the ability to remote control, disable your car etc and with the roll out of over the air updates etc he has a point.

Edited 24 June, 202524 Jun by Graham Butcher

@Graham Butcher Points mean prizes, or clicks for the Dude with the Raybans, and a Smart Watch on the Wrist & a phone in the pocket that even knows his heart rate.

So nothing new here, other than to him maybe. Years of experience and a nose for a story while working in media, but more a nose for click bait.

It has been so for years now with all kinds of vehicles.

Manufacturers / Dealers have had demonstrators tracked and how used and functioning.

Motorists have been convicted using data from vehicles for a long time.

As to 'Snitches', The Mac Master is just a muppet.

Insurance Loss Adjusters / Examiners and Police / Accident investigators have ECU,s investigated. Not looking for snitchers, just evidence..

Edited 24 June, 202524 Jun by Ootohere

Vehicle data privacy is notoriously bad. This has nothing about EV's, unless you are gullible enough to believe a social media "influencer".

The poor data privacy had been talked about years ago:

Mozilla Foundation

Cars are a Privacy Nightmare: Here’s Why That Matters

Modern cars are surveillance-machines on wheels that can detect everything we do and where and when we do it. What could happen if something goes wrong?

(I suppose 2023 didn't line up with the "influencer"'s publishing schedule. Now is a bit of a dry spell for him)

Recently a fella was convicted of a murder on Anglesey in part due to the telematics of his car placing it at the scene. It was found burnt out on the night in question, but the crucial data had been uploaded already. It was a diesel LR product. This has nothing to do with EVs....

59 minutes ago, Luckypants said:

Recently a fella was convicted of a murder on Anglesey in part due to the telematics of his car placing it at the scene. It was found burnt out on the night in question, but the crucial data had been uploaded already. It was a diesel LR product. This has nothing to do with EVs....

Well it would still be applicable to EV, as they do report everything, but LR was doing the same because of all software updates etc on the more modern cars.

18 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Well it would still be applicable to EV, as they do report everything, but LR was doing the same because of all software updates etc on the more modern cars.

How far are we away from our cars grassing on off for doing over 80 mph, or more.

I like to know how accurate the speedo is and what the top speed is.

Fortunately my EVs only do about 85 and 95 mph with their single gear and motor hitting the rev limiter.

Gone are the days of seeing over 150 on the Octy VRS speedos and a good think but if I did go for a drive in Germany it would be nice to do 250 kph or so.

I’m pretty sure that if your air bag fitted car, be it petrol, diesel, ev or hydrogen was involved in an accident which deployed the airbags then the airbag control module would have recorded the speed, pedal and steering wheel inputs plus various other parameters depending on how advanced it is.

The Macmaster guy is sad spinning everything against EVs all cars are going or have already gone that way.

28 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

How far are we away from our cars grassing on off for doing over 80 mph, or more.

I like to know how accurate the speedo is and what the top speed is.

Fortunately my EVs only do about 85 and 95 mph with their single gear and motor hitting the rev limiter.

Gone are the days of seeing over 150 on the Octy VRS speedos and a good think but if I did go for a drive in Germany it would be nice to do 250 kph or so.

Agree with having cars that can excessively exceed the speed limits is not always a good thing, but I think is far worse is the sheer insane acceleration that many of the EV's can provide, such as the MG4 X Power, watch it demolish these supercars.

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Manufacturers like VW Group were saying (trying it on) Warranties were invalidated by doing too many 'Launch Controls' as they knew you had from the ECU.

& BMW saying the same about Track use of their Ultimate Driving Machines.

Issue right there was they sell Media cars, or Ex Media cars through Dealership Networks and even with Approved Used Warranties.

Cars that were at Launch Events on Tracks or Roads or Offroad courses.

This was at the time of Turbo failures & gearbox issues and diff issues of some VW Group performance vehicles. & high oil use, Audi RS3,s.

The media teams had to go warn up PRESS cars before influencers took cars out and ragged them.

There was no warnings or anything in brochures or owners manuals that when you bought or borrowed or just drove a performance ICE vehicle that 'Launch Control' use should be rationed.

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If you watch various Police Accident type programmes they know when a bulb was on or off at the time of accidents / incidents, when the brakes were or were not applied before a collisions, air bags deployed etc,

Enjoying 'English roads' !

When brains were being handed out they were off that day.

Edited 25 June, 202525 Jun by Ootohere

More people are buying electric cars and installing heat pumps than ever before, but those numbers need to increase even further, according to the government's climate advisers.

"[The UK] can absolutely meet net zero by 2050," said Ms Pinchbeck.

Greenhouse gas emissions within the UK's borders have already fallen by more than half since 1990.

But that's mostly because polluting fossil fuels – particularly coal – have been increasingly replaced with renewable energy like wind and solar for electricity generation.

The UK's biggest emitters last year were transport and buildings, which will also need to get cleaner to help reach net zero.

Source:

BBC News

More people buying electric cars and heat pumps than ever...

But the Climate Change Committee warns there's still a long way to go for the UK to reach net zero by 2050.

Question to class: With ever decreasing electricity supply. How do we capitalise on this and reduce surface transport carbon emissions?