2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

lol.

 

Spoiler.   HE IS NOT BEING SUED, not for the car and where it is being charged.  Maybe other reasons though.

 

He was not sent the first letter was he, the one about not charging undercover or keep at a distance?

 

Charging a Porsche Taycan can cost less than running a Petrol or Diesel Porsche if you use the Discounted Charging that you can get by having a Porsche EV & 

if you are a Company Car driver in a Company Car it can be very much cheaper running an EV even Public Charging. 

 

Maybe the new Insurers are now aware of his change in personal circumstances as the last insurer said in the Letter they sent about renewing his cars insurance.

Is it really tripled for other reasons?

 

£22.68 for 58.12 kWh  less than 40 pence a kWh.

150 Miles if using Super Unleaded @ 150 pence a litre @ 15 litres £22.68.      15 litres 3.3 gallons.   So the Porsche would need to be getting 45 mpg.

 

150 miles added & 58.12 kWh is because the Taycan was getting 2.6 miles a kWh being driven. 

*If it was actual business miles used only the VAT could be claimed back.* 

 

 

Ionity.

 

 

Can you imagine having that as your next door neighbour, imagine that you were a teenager at school or college and that was your father!

 

Here's hoping that he has not been able to procreate.

Imagine wearing the Wayfarer,s and The North Face Jacket,  (sometimes the Berghaus jacket) and heading out in inclement weather or while the snow is fallen and going to thaw and prancing about like a circus pony thinking about better footwear after going out. Go shopping then. 

 

@Graham Butcher  Just back from Dundee, M&S. Gallacher Retail Park,  Dock street.

Sun splitting the pavement, ice on ground and not a breath of wind.

?

What is your point about Dundee Council and air quality today or any day?

 

There was Dundee decades ago before new road layouts, and before and during covid, there was what happened after covid and there is pre and posy LEZ.

It is a very different city and very little dirty industry anymore, nothing near the tay really. foundries and gas works and nothing like the HGV,s going through the City or back and fore on the Tay Bridge.  

So 2024 / 2025 might well be worth comparing to 2004/5.

 

 

 

Edited 8 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

14 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

Can you imagine having that as your next door neighbour, imagine that you were a teenager at school or college and that was your father!

 

Here's hoping that he has not been able to procreate.

Spoiler alert he has at least 2 daughters. 

Spoiler alert he used to say that his Ex and his present partners would not let him use electricity to charge at their gaffs. 

Because of this he was always faffing about at 50 kW public chargers saying how slow they were to charge an EV the size of the one he has with a battery the size it has and goes on about the 80%, and the cost to charge. 

I'm guessing then that he and his ex have only in the last 3 years split up then, because where he often starts his videos from is I believe his ex's house and he has a room there as his office? I'm saying that because he surely never had the home charger installed before he had the Taycan, or is that guff?

@Ootoheremy point about Dundee is that we had a chat a while ago when we were talking about all the LEZs being setup across the UK and Dundee and Aberdeen was brought into it, and you said that Dundee had bad air and yet every time I check on the air map which I do it never seems to be bad, always in the green zone, so I was puzzled as to why it had a LEZ when reading show it to be perfectly safe.

Edited 8 January, 20251 yr by Graham Butcher

EDIT. 

@Graham Butcher   Dundee had bad air, in the past.  It was bad years ago, there is no place here or anyplace i said it had bad air in recent years.

It did fail the Standards that were required though and had the 2nd worst reading in Scotland at the Seagate as far as all the published stuff shows. 

Nothing like the Industrial Sites reading. Grangemouth, Peterhead etc.

 

My dad worked out of the Olympia Swimming Pool where the Public Baths used to be and that was Coal Fired Boilers in the years past.

My dad moved there after the New Laundry he managed that Dundee built was closed, too big without enough stuff to wash, Ninewells Hospital had a laundry

and my dad could do the Council towels etc at any of the 10 Council Launderettes in the City ,

this was at Glenagness roads was where the Steamie was and the Public baths.

These were coal fired and later gas boilers.  

This was where the pavements had the pipes to the houses heated from the boiler, there was no snow on the pavements because they were heated.

 

 

.................

I started watching him before this vid.

With this one i was able to see where he was driving past chargers and stops that were ideal for his car because i used the routes and needed to charge twice as often as he needed and i was doing it with charging Free.

 

.............

The Shell Filling station across a A9 from Subway has the Shell Recharger 

Then in Perth there is Perth Porsche & the Ionity, and others and now Tesla Supercharger open to Non Tesla.

 

Ignoring that there was at least 6 places to charge at between Perth & Inverness where he had plenty of range to get to.

They might have been faulty OBVIOUSLY, but he did not need them.

Now the godsend in Tesla Non Tesla @ Aviemore, and there are about 8 places other than that to charge at, but only @ 50 kW.between Perth & Inverness, Inverness and Perth.

 

Ionity.  Gretna Green.

 

He did get a Ionity discounted tariff, but it was not as cheap as if he went to Porsche Perth and charged. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 8 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

I noticed that he said that he was going to be using the Porsche system to tell him where the charge points were, then a few minutes into the vid, he claimed that the Porsche Nav system could not find John O'Groats so he was going to have to use the Waze system????

When LEZ works: "look, no air pollution, LEZ isn't needed"

When LEZ doesn't work: "look, LEZ doesn't work"

 

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On 07/01/2025 at 10:27, Graham Butcher said:

Then if you add in the lost 53p a litre fuel duty which the Government is missing out on, but they will soon be finding ways of clawing that lost revenue back, suddenly unless you can be certain to do most of your charging at home (on cheap rates), then suddenly it becomes way more expensive to run.

When EV "Fuel Duty" is applied, and make no mistake it will be at some point in the future, perhaps the penny will drop.

'Fuel duty' added would still not get everyone like those that can generate electricity and charge their vehicle / vehicles from their own storage. Wind, Hydro, Solar, running a generator on rebated fuel.

As people could run Veg Oil or Used Veg Oil and drain cleaner.

 

So Simples. 

Bill the Registered Keeper once a Year at MOT,s on the miles the vehicle travelled or at a Change of Registered Keeper. 

The Vehicle has to have the VED renewed, charge for what miles it did, or Pre Charge for the coming year and then Refunds can be given for miles not covered. 

 

They can charge for the Over the Speed limit driving periods as well, the cars know when that is happening even when the Speed Limiters are being turned off.

 

As it is now the NEW BEV,s can have the Miles covered checked Over the air. 

The ANPR cameras know where a vehicle is travelling and the roadside technology can easily ask the Vehicle what miles it has done. 

 

 

.................

This is the same as Porsche will do with Taycans to monitor the Batteries and see or alert of Fire Risk. 

They can do the same with the MINI/ BMW EV,s and other manufacturers cars.

 

It can be done with New ICE vehicles.

 

 

Edited 9 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

3 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

the roadside technology can easily ask the Vehicle what miles it has done. 

I'd be concerned about the security and hacking risks if it's true that a non-contact system can communicate with a cars systems to extract that sort of data.

 

Black hat hackers are very often one step ahead of the white hat guys Fiat Chrysler recalls 1.4m vehicles

I am not worried, i use a Smart Phone, Internet Banking, Store Reward cards and my life is lived online.

My location on Sat Nav / GPS and Contacts list are available even when my Smart Phone is turned off.

 

These hacking concerns are exactly the issues with the VW Group in Germany.   

There appear to be the ones to worry about more than even Chinese Manufacturers. 

Tesla knows everything about the cars travel.

 

I have a pal that used to clock cars for Taxi Drivers and others.  Started that 50 years ago.

Now he makes EV,s invisible as far as over the air stuff.  As Organised Crime / Drug Dealer and Car Hire / Taxi EV users might want. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 9 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

2 hours ago, EnterName said:

When EV "Fuel Duty" is applied, and make no mistake it will be at some point in the future, perhaps the penny will drop.

Indeed.

A question I often ask: if there was no such thing as tax in any form, would EVs even exist?

SIM cards in cars. SOS buttons and automatic call the emergency services.  Cars as wi-fi hotspots.     Billing car users should be dead easy just like Mobile  phone companies and broadband providers do. 

 

If there was no such thing as tail pipe emissions from ICE vehicles would there have been any need for EV,s or Electric Trains etc? 

If there was no taxes how would the NHS and much else be paid for? 

 

Pay as you go for absolutely everything you ever need so that there is money to pay wages. 

Edited 9 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

I think best thing about Tesla is they make those information available via their API. So I can log it as my own data:

I have the same logging turned on via Google maps.

 

I personally believe tech company have better ability to keep my data secure compared to car companies. VW data breach doesn't surprise me a single bit.

 

But I don't think it will be via car manufacturers. UK is a small nation, not all car manufacturers will bend over backwards to implement this for tax. Combined with ZEV mandate could see many manufacturers just decide it's not worth the effort.

 

I do believe per-mile tax will eventually come, just not sure how it will be implemented.

 

 

2 hours ago, Dieselgate said:

Indeed.

A question I often ask: if there was no such thing as tax in any form, would EVs even exist?

 

I also often ask, if there's no such thing as subsidy, would fossil fuel industry even exist?

 

Source: https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/climate-change/energy-subsidies

 

Edited 9 January, 20251 yr by wyx087

Pay the vehicles VED, have it insured and road legal, mot passed the keeper receives a SIM card / Chip and put into the vehicle and then it can operate on the roads and maybe offroad. 

The Info can be for the vehicle and for insured drivers from their DRIVING LICENCE.

 

Dead simple system.

  Tax evaders or those not paying fines could have their details used to suspend them from using a vehicle.

Bar code / QR code at the fuel filler or charge port and you need to use your all in one UK National ID card / driving licence / NI / passport / leave to stay etc, to activate the pump / charger.

Simple, yes. But this isn't China. It seems many people have a keen interest to avoid any and all things that could be classed as "big brother".

 

(or say they do whilst still using smart phones)

 

The party who suggests it would certainly not be popular across the spectrum.

I am listening to Scotland's First Minister Questions and the FM has just spoken about CCTV and local authorities and Hikvision  cameras.

Removed from the Government Estate and by some councils but not all. 

 

So while they are worried about China and Data, Security, Privacy the Government, Councillors and others are using vehicles with the technology to track them, 

even see them in vehicles.

 

I wonder if King Charles and Prince William's Audi EV,s have been made secure from any ability to track them other than by their own security teams.

Software of the cars modified so that others can not take control of cars, disable them and lock the occupants in. 

53 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

I also often ask, if there's no such thing as subsidy, would fossil fuel industry even exist?

 

There are no fossil fuel subsidies in the UK, rather the opposite.

There is still a 5 pence a litre reduction in some Postcode areas and these are not just in Scotland. 

 

There is very much Tax Breaks for North Sea oil & Gas extraction then the supposed high taxing of the Oil & Gas Profits. 

THE UK GOVERNMENT DO NOT DIRECTLY SUBSIDIZE FOSSIL FUEL EXPLORATION.

But they manage to give over £16 billion in 2022.

£20 Billion in 2023.

 

Anyway INEOS will do as it wishes with Grangemouth and it will just be a Depot receiving oil and fuels imported.

They will do what the want with the Forties Pipeline.

 

Scotland needs to get Fuel Security sorted and get the new Battery Storage Plants built before EDF close the Nuclear down at Torness and Peterhead Gas fired station closes if the new plant is not getting built, or the Carbon Capture come to pass an they get it at Peterhead.

 

 

IMPORTANT. 

These can power all Scotland's home for *2 hours* from the stored electricity.

So another 11 and sorted.

Well obviously when enough electricity is generated to store in the batteries, but Scotland is near there and exporting and occasionally importing & paying a high price to those not to generate electricity. 

 

It takes a lot of Electricity produced from Oil & Gas to run the Grangemouth Refinery and Cracking plant and every other one, and lots of industrial sites.

Edited 9 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Tax breaks are not subsidies.

My original point was around if there was no such thing as tax.

Money from Us going to them to employ the like of us and plenty still going away out of the UK economy. 

We pay so much to other nationalities to have employment in the UK. 

We pay it to those that do not even need it as they can make plenty profits without receiving the hand outs.   

Energy Security, sell licences and then say that you are stopping productions of oil and gas in the North Sea.   Or not. 

 

Pension Funds and Banks are supporting the Fossil Fuel Industry while the PEOPLE who's money it is are also paying to support getting to Net Zero. 

20 minutes ago, Dieselgate said:

Tax breaks are not subsidies.

My original point was around if there was no such thing as tax.

Ok, let me rephrase:

 

A question I often ask: if there was no such thing as tax breaks, would fossil fuel industry even exist?

31 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Ok, let me rephrase:

 

A question I often ask: if there was no such thing as tax breaks, would fossil fuel industry even exist?

Probably - I don't really know but it's more than likely I would have thought. Tax breaks are hardly unique to the fossil fuel industry, most businesses take advantage of them in some way.

The industry would definitely exist if there was no such thing as tax.