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3 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

He also goes on to fully explain what he means by that and that a car should be more than capable of being driven in the wet and also that they should be designed that they can be repaired.

 

I think he is 30 years behind the times with that notion, lets say it was my Yeti and the diff breather was submerged, the sudden cooling of the casing sucking in a good quantity of water plus that which would come in through the static head, several months later I present the car under warranty with a knackered diff, Skoda would quite rightly refute the repair due to water ingress, even if they didn't they would not repair the differential, its a specialist job, the parts are not available through VAG, aside from the time and cost they could not guarantee the repair as they could a new unit, nope it will be a bill of 4.5k plus labour to the customer.

 

Hell the exact above has happened scores of times due to the incompetance of their own service technicians draining the diff instead of the Haldex unit yet that still does not get taken up by the media.

 

If they are not going to repair something that every garage in the 50's and early 60's were capable of they certainly are not going to be messing with a high voltage battery pack swimming in corrosion even if the parts were available and they had certified technicians, the battery pack will be sold on to one of the specialist reconditioners but dependant on how long it remains wet even they are unlikely to be able to salvage much other than the casing, even that is dubious as electrolytic corrosion will have been having a field day.

 

Anyone that says the battery pack should resist submersion is talking out of their backside, anything with service penetrations (cables, pipes, breathers, submarine propeller shafts) will leak to some degree, I designed military equipment which could be used outside in  thunderstorm or resist a water cannon, far worse than a Tesla driving through a puddle (which of course was a porkie) but often the only way we could meet the submersion requirements (think falling off a raft during a river crossing etc) was to adapt specialised transit cases for the equipment made by other MOD suppliers.

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^^^ Those with their AWD,s /4x4,s never think of that as the reverse their water crafts down a slipway into fresh or salt water to launch after arriving with a nicely warmed up vehicle.

Even people crossing fords or big puddles on a journey.   Hot Cat / Exhaust / Diff / Axles. 

 

Then people think maybe change the rear diff oil @ 80,000 miles or when ever if ever.

@LeeDo you mean still shows as a diesel, i know that i checked. 

Or do you know the vehicle and have seen under the bonnet?  I know how long it has been Grey. 

@Rooted OK, it's still showing as a diesel. 

Who had that one - was it Boss Fox Richard? 

 

 

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Was it not his Mums when a grey one?     I remember the thread was on here when the garages Demonstrator was wearing YETI  Show plate and he got the NIP.

 

@Leeyou were in the colour discussion of the tuned car.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Rooted said:

Was it not his Mums?     I remember the thread was on here when the garages Demonstrator was wearing YETI  Show plate and he got the NIP.

I honestly can't remember now he had so many cars and modded many of them. The Yeti that was red turned race blue with CF doors and bonnet and a 2.5 TFSi from an Audi. Once a bit over 500Bhp then plans to make it around 700. I went on the track as a passenger when it was 500Bhp and that was quick enough.

Then there was his CitiGo 4X4 conversion project which was sold for someone else ( Jabba or Darkside) to finish.

Then he decided to buy all the Nissan Skylines. 

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@LeeThat is 2012. no idea about the 2017 car, keeper etc.

Now I'm confused 🤔

This is from 2021. The Yeti he modded.

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No idea when this is from. Same Yeti as above so maybe he shifts the plate from time to time, got another Yeti in Grey or sold the plate on🤷

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I forgot he modded a Roomster as well.

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33 minutes ago, @Lee said:

The Yeti that was red turned race blue with CF doors and bonnet and a 2.5 TFSi from an Audi. Once a bit over 500Bhp then plans to make it around 700. I went on the track as a passenger when it was 500Bhp and that was quick enough.

 

That has made me green with envy, I really enjoyed reading about all his mods and how he managed to keep it looking very stock and unmodified, then it all seemed to come to a sudden halt, I guess life and/or other projects intervened.

 

I would really like to know what has come of it, I do hope that its not just sitting somewhere waiting to be shown the love like my Elan S4 Coupé 😒

John he got into racing Nissan Primera's (plural) a few years ago now amongst other things. No idea if he sold it on or not but I think last I heard from him the Yeti was a keeper. 

Oh, dear an unhappy Tesla Model Y owner in Scotland, he has a YouTube channel called "Just get a Tesla" as he thought they were great cars, maybe not so great now with a car that died overnight, and he has had a lot of other cars before, and it was very interesting to hear him say that the car manufacturers refusing to honour warranties etc. At the time this video went live on YouTube, it had been days and still not been fixed by Tesla so all is not well in the Tesla camp so just maybe there might be a grain of truth in the other Tesla video with the £17,000 bill for a replacement battery after all? WE shall have to wait and see if there is any further published developments on that front.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Oh, dear an unhappy Tesla Model Y owner in Scotland, he has a YouTube channel called "Just get a Tesla" as he thought they were great cars, maybe not so great now with a car that died overnight, and he has had a lot of other cars before, and it was very interesting to hear him say that the car manufacturers refusing to honour warranties etc. At the time this video went live on YouTube, it had been days and still not been fixed by Tesla so all is not well in the Tesla camp so just maybe there might be a grain of truth in the other Tesla video with the £17,000 bill for a replacement battery after all? WE shall have to wait and see if there is any further published developments on that front.

 

 

 

Looking at the quick screenshot when he flips up the faults the dash shows, its mainly "low volt battery disconnection".....Basically the battery for the car electrics (like a ICE car battery) has loose terminals....many people still can't get their head around E.V. cars having two battery/electrical systems..one big one for the power (engine) & the rest of the car being like a like a conventional ICE car electrics/battery....

 

I recon like most recent ICE cars the batteries are under sized on amp/hr...& fail early...

19 minutes ago, fabdavrav said:

 

Looking at the quick screenshot when he flips up the faults the dash shows, its mainly "low volt battery disconnection".....Basically the battery for the car electrics (like a ICE car battery) has loose terminals....many people still can't get their head around E.V. cars having two battery/electrical systems..one big one for the power (engine) & the rest of the car being like a like a conventional ICE car electrics/battery....

 

I recon like most recent ICE cars the batteries are under sized on amp/hr...& fail early...

Yes, I noticed that as well, but he did say that the connections were OK, so the battery has failed, or has it? It might the central control unit as the headlight failed first and just about everything on those Teslas is controlled via the touch screen, so maybe conventional switches?

 

I know the Ranger Rovers usually have 2 batteries as well on thats on the ICE models. The main battery sits in the spare wheel well, under the spare wheel, and there is a auxiliary backup battery in the right-hand side of the boot behind a panel.

7 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Yes, I noticed that as well, but he did say that the connections were OK, so the battery has failed, or has it? It might the central control unit as the headlight failed first and just about everything on those Teslas is controlled via the touch screen, so maybe conventional switches?

 

 

 

Could be the main can gateway...anyway I wonder what this Tesla Dealer will say??......especially with all the yellow, amber & red weather warnings!!.....😂

Having said that, look at this video about the chaos with flooding on the roads, at about 2:30 in the video, is that MG electric, I think it must be, thoughts?

 

Most people have zero idea of what to do when the road is flooded 🙄

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Having said that, look at this video about the chaos with flooding on the roads, at about 2:30 in the video, is that MK electric, I think it must be, thoughts?

 

Most people have zero idea of what to do when the road is flooded 🙄

 

 

 

 

2' 6" deep, They are mad

 

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Mans car breaks down.  Big story. Or not really.

My electric car broke down and i posted on here about it and the uselessness of the RAC, the recovery company they called and of Arnold Clark Service Centre Dundee.

 

I would have done the same if it had been an ICE with a 'shifter' failure and the Drive & e-Brake locked. 

The main story was not that it broke down, it was that he has had many faults with it and that Tesla seem unable to get him going again in a timely fashion. I keep hearing about how wonderful their service is. Its also about the other cars he has had with problems while in warranty and how the dealers were reluctant to look at the problems or to fix, which fits the story as told by John Cadogan that makers and indeed dealers will try and get away with doing nothing if they can.

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Where is he? 

A wonderful TESLA service requires people in at the Dealership or to get to you.

Central Belt Scotland dealers can do so much, further afield in Scotland & suck it up & wear big boy or girl pants.

 

I was not interested in a Funky Cat even though the new dealer would be in Dundee.  Now shut since August.

Or a MG from 11 miles away in Brechin .   Parks Hamiliton.    No bl00dy way would i have a car from them.

A TESLA would be no use for me or a Polestar.  Even if given one.

Skoda or SEAT EV,s OK because of the Dealership with very helpful and local staff for lifts if issues to get to dealership. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rooted said:

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Where is he? 

 

He mentions Tesla of Aberdeen?

Seen by Monday seems like good service then.  Lucky lucky Tesla driving or as it is not man. 

Thursday & 'down in Aberdeen' so must be North of Aberdeen or it would be across or up to Aberdeen.   Sorry i can not listen to his voice. Does my nut in. 

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34 minutes ago, Rooted said:

Seen by Monday seems like good service then.  Lucky lucky Tesla driving or as it is not man. 

Thursday & 'down in Aberdeen' so must be North of Aberdeen or it would be across or up to Aberdeen.   Sorry i can not listen to his voice. Does my nut in. 

🤣 I know what you mean about his voice.

 

Seen by Monday, a week after it happened and its under warranty?

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Check out the MG4 at 2:10 😀

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