Where do you get your News?

[@Lee]

For BBC balance, see also Jeremy Vine's comments in his Channel 5 interview on Clarkson. 

https://www.channel5.com/show/jeremy-clarkson-king-of-controversy

Ex BBC political editor Andrew Marr as well also questioning his former employer.

 

 

 

Edited 10 March, 2023 by @Lee

[@Lee]

Is anyone else getting concerned about the BBC? In the space of a few days, Gary Linekar has been 'cancelled' for correctly saying Braverman's language was similar to that of Germany in the 1930s, David Attenborough's new show won't be broadcast on the BBC* 'in case it upsets the right whingers' and on Question Time last night when Yasmin Alibhai-Brown brought up Stanley Johnson punching his wife Fiona Bruce** replied 'but it was a one off' which it wasn't. 

I don't know why but the BBC's Apprentice host Alan Sugar made his politically motivated attacks about Mick Lynch via his Twitter account yet AFAIK he wasn't brought in the have a 'frank conversation'. 

 

Just my personal opinion but I think there's some very unsavoury goings on at the BBC right now. 

 

*It will however be shown on iPlayer. Now I'm not sure but I don't think it's just lefty libtard snowflakes who have access to iPlayer.
**Fiona Bruce is an Ambassador for the women's charity 'Refuge'

This is their statement.
https://refuge.org.uk/news/refuge-responds-to-bbc-question-time-comments/

Edited 10 March, 2023 by @Lee

[Ootohere]

#i am with the ex footballers / BBC presenters.   I will not be on BBC watching the football or commenting on it. 

[@Lee]

18 minutes ago, toot said:

#i am with the ex footballers / BBC presenters.   I will not be on BBC watching the football or commenting on it. 

Yes Ian Wright and Alan Shearer standing in solidarity with Linekar. Absolute legends.

I suspect this will spectacularly backfire on the BBC.  

I wonder who'll present it tomorrow?

 

 

 

FWIW I don't believe any Government should be making appointments to the chair or board of the BBC. It should perhaps be done cross party if the BBC is to be seen as impartial.

 

 

 

Edited 10 March, 2023 by @Lee

[Ootohere]

Brendan Clarke-Smith MP.  Smug.  I believe in cancel culture.  Get him off the telly. 

[@Lee]

The broadcasters union isn't happy about things at the BBC

 

 

 

 

 

Full statement in link but it's not much longer.

https://bectu.org.uk/news/bbc-decision-on-gary-lineker-deeply-concerning

[@Lee]

Football Focus won't be on TV today either - all the presenters showing solidarity with Gary Linekar. The BBC have really stitched themselves up this time by appearing to bow to political pressure. 
'Controlled mass media' is one of the warning signs. 

[@Lee]

With apropos of nothing, I'd just like to share an image of a statue of the great author George Orwell which stands at Broadcasting House. Read the inscription.

 

[@Lee]

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Edited 12 March, 2023 by @Lee

[@Lee]

Interesting watching the BBC's 'Newsnight' programme a few days ago - they were discussing the media and the BBC's latest problem of its impartiality but what really struck was this from Baroness Wheatcroft on her thoughts on the right wing media. She was asked 'how much power does the conservative press have at the top of the BBC'.
She says she doesn't know but the right wing press has become more right wing 'and rabidly so'.
Baroness Wheatcroft is a non affiliated Peer and a former editor of the Sunday Telegraph.
 

 

 

Link to full episode on iPlayer  https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001k3w2/newsnight-bbc-impartiality-what-next

[SteveTheElder]

3 hours ago, @Lee said:

Interesting watching the BBC's 'Newsnight' programme a few days ago - they were discussing the media and the BBC's latest problem of its impartiality but what really struck was this from Baroness Wheatcroft on her thoughts on the right wing media. She was asked 'how much power does the conservative press have at the top of the BBC'.
She says she doesn't know but the right wing press has become more right wing 'and rabidly so'.
Baroness Wheatcroft is a non affiliated Peer and a former editor of the Sunday Telegraph.
 

 

Link to full episode on iPlayer  https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001k3w2/newsnight-bbc-impartiality-what-next

 

I reckon the same or similar could be said about the left leaning media becoming more left wing. Polarisation of views is increasing and, in my opinion, to the detriment of society.

 

It would be so good if there were a source of news facts that are verified as facts and without opinion, speculation, or analysis. Guess I'll just have to dream on...

[J.R.]

And it would be nice if people could not only accept that in many cases half of the voting population are of a different political group to them but also to respect their choice and their opinions and above all avoid using incendiary language like "rabid" and plenty of others to describe them.

 

And also not to commit ones life to attempting to influence others political views, better to be ignorant of their persuasion if you are going to end up classing them as the enemy.

[@Lee]

I see Suella Braverman went off on a jollly to Rwanda yesterday.  She invited GB News, the Daily Mail, the Express, and the Telegraph yet she excluded other media outlets  such as the Guardian, the Mirror, and the BBC. Taxpayer funded as well I think.
 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/18/braverman-criticised-for-shutting-out-guardian-and-bbc-from-rwanda-trip?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
IMO the RW media should have stood in solidarity with the more centrist/ left media. That they didn't makes them appear as nothing more than Tory PR machines.
A free press is an essential part of a healthy democracy or so I thought.

Some other pieces I've been reading over the past week or so on impartiality esp at the BBC.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/14/bbc-editors-asked-journalists-to-avoid-using-lockdown-at-start-of-pandemic
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/03/12/the-bbcs-pursuit-of-bogus-impartiality-finally-crashes-and-burns/
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/03/15/leaked-whatsapps-destroy-the-bbcs-impartiality-myth/
https://bylinetimes.com/2021/03/30/stories-are-chosen-due-to-editorial-merit-and-newsworthy-updates-bbc-responds-to-concerns-over-lack-of-johnson-sexual-affair-coverage/ 

https://www.bylinesupplement.com/p/public-trust-in-bbc-nosedives-as
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/17/tories-pressured-bbc-over-johnsons-claim-starmer-failed-to-prosecute-jimmy-savile

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR1hFr4hPPPX9a-DMvxYNeavbfjVp7Kdi-izCEToPKjqM1ayijK2_wFWmwg

 

 

Edited 19 March, 2023 by @Lee

[Ootohere]

SKY were excluded.

 

She will get Interior decorating advice for her Grace & Favour property.

 

Do not expect much in the way or truth or honest from Wooden Drivel MP The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.   They pass the Duchy on the right hand side to who ever can not blush.

 

Smirky smirky snouter and Boris brown noser.

Worked in PR or picked up a salary there and from working for the Tories or as an elected member, time will tell who employs him once he is punted from Politics, but then he has the House of Lords to look forward to. 

 

He is one of the many tools in the Cabinet of tools.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 19 March, 2023 by toot

[@Lee]

@toot at least Dowden didn't repeat this flat out lie from Jake Berry on Politics Live the other day. He spoke a fair few untruths but not that one.
Denmark discussed the idea but didn't go through with it. NO countries in the EU deport asylum seekers to other countries. The clip's too short to tell if the moderator pulled him up on it but I think it's on iPlayer. I may take a look later as there's no Andrew Neil show on tonight.
 

 

 

 

[Ootohere]

@Lee I watched it when he was on.  It was ridiculous much of what he said but the guy that was on schooled him because he was fully up on Jake Berry and his nonsense.  There will be more in the future regarding his time as Conservative party Chairman, and come time, his business interests and donor's.  No peerage for him. 

 

EDIT.

@Leehere you are.

 

 

 

........................

Cheer up, Be happy!

Get a better job. Earn more. 

https://www.jacothenorth.net/blog/tag/palatine-hill-ltd

 

https://www.jacothenorth.net/blog/tag/alice-berry

 

https://www.jacothenorth.net/blog/jake-berry-mp-they-seek-him-here-they-seek-him-there

 

 

 

Edited 19 March, 2023 by toot

[@Lee]

@toot extraordinary if this is true. Apparently Braverman wasn't visiting a new cam for refugees. We might hear the name Bwiza Riverside in a day or two.

It's a development for wealthy Rwandans.

No wonder only the complicit media were invited if this is true. 

 

 

https://rwanda.adhicorp.com/bwiza/

 

https://twitter.com/pedanteric5/status/1637516163121917954?t=mIkmRi7SGCq_M5ltD7ifCQ&s=19

 

 

https://twitter.com/JohnWest_JAWS/status/1637552423244906499?t=r4Jm47Gl3nAy-yzOml87jg&s=19

 

 

 

 

Edited 19 March, 2023 by @Lee

[Ootohere]

News or words straight from the horses mouth. 

Showing their knowledge of the law.

 

 

 

 

 

[@Lee]

Amazing that Hoyle has found his spine at last.

More amazing that Braverman was the Attorney General for a brief period. She should indeed know better. 

 

[@Lee]

Always interesting to get a broad view of the big topics.

C4News, Newsnight and Peston. Lord Greehalgh on Newsnight doing his utmost to defend Johnson but Victoria Derbyshire was having none of it.

Caroline Noakes (Tory) also having none of it on Peston.

Mogg on C4 news basically saying that a proper committee was a 'marsupial' court.

GBeebies however (who Mogg works for along with Lee Anderson MP ((Tory and Johnson ally now on a £100K contract with GBeebies)) went with a totally upside down version of reality. 

Personally I think Johnson's toast. I think even he knows it after watching some of the committee meeting and I think even his defence such as Lord Panick are panicking.

All on a day where Johnson voted against the new NI deal along with the DUP and Sunak's team released a statement of his tax affairs. Even when I was working in the UK I payed a higher percentage of tax than him and I'm no millionaire. 

 

 

Edited 22 March, 2023 by @Lee

[EnterName]

To drag the thread kicking and screaming back on topic ("Where do you get your News?"), I get my news from a variety of sources, but I tend to avoid large news corporations as a source of news as they tend to be heavily curated to fit a narrative.

I usually use social media to get me started on a story, and then research the story to try and find out what is actually going on, rather than have my opinion steered by the corporate media's current narrative.

This research can involve quite a bit of looking around online trying to piece together bits of information to see how they fit together.

Example: When the Nord Stream pipeline(s) was/were blown up, I think I was alone on here in initially challenging the narrative that Russia had blown up their own pipeline.

 

One problem with this method of getting news, is that some people get very upset when you differ from what they feel is the agreed "consensus".

Another problem is that I usually turn up late to the party, having taken time to do some research and let the full story emerge, instead of simply flicking through Twitter to work out what the current consensus is so I can agree with it.

[SteveTheElder]

Thank you @EnterName I was going to try to bring it back with this... (but maybe it should be in Chuckle in your day)

 

Yesterday I was reminded of the wonderful 1980's satirical sitcom series Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister - particularly the "A Conflict of Interest" episode which in effect mocks the readers and leanings of various newspapers. To quote from Wikipedia...

 

Sir Humphrey: The only way to understand the Press is to remember that they pander to their readers' prejudices.

Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers: the Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country; the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; the Financial Times is read by people who own the country; the Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.

Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?

Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big t*ts.

 

 

 

 

Edited 23 March, 2023 by SteveTheElder

[EnterName]

13 hours ago, SteveTheElder said:

Thank you @EnterName I was going to try to bring it back with this... (but maybe it should be in Chuckle in your day)

 

Yesterday I was reminded of the wonderful 1980's satirical sitcom series Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister - particularly the "A Conflict of Interest" episode which in effect mocks the readers and leanings of various newspapers. To quote from Wikipedia...

 

Sir Humphrey: The only way to understand the Press is to remember that they pander to their readers' prejudices.

Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers: the Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country; the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; the Financial Times is read by people who own the country; the Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.

Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?

Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big t*ts.

 

 

 

 

I remember that, but I think Hacker was wrong. IMO it is The Financial Times which is read by the people who run the country.

[Ootohere]

News from news media. 

Words straight from the horses or greedy pig's mouths.   All above board, within the rules, nobody did anything wrong. 

Other than according to Matt Hancock there has been a breach of his privacy.

 

We can work with the numbers,.   

the Ex Chancellor Kwasi Kwatreng is able to go some mental arithmetic if you allow him some time. and can work out the currency.

We can work with Sir Graham Brady's numbers as well, he is the person that knows how many letters come in from MP's on no confidence.

 

 

 

Baroness Mone & the VIP zip line and Michael Gove MP will be in the news again soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 March, 2023 by toot

[J.R.]

1 hour ago, toot said:

News from news media. 

Words straight from the horses or greedy pig's mouths.   All above board, within the rules, nobody did anything wrong. 

Other than according to Matt Hancock there has been a breach of his privacy.

 

The money seems to come so easily to these characters that they just throw out a figure not caring whether it will be accepted or not as there will be many others, you could see Hancock struggling to work out an hourly rate after already having got £10K per day agreed.

 

Was it him who quoted $10K/day and when she wanted clarification of £s or $s he swiftly changed it to £10K in pounds Sterling?