Hello everyone!

 

I have Skoda Superb Mk3 hatch FWD 2.0 TDI 200ps with Rough Road Protection suspension package and no DCC. 
 

With the rough road protection I’m really disappointed with the driving experience and the car aesthetics. It leans a lot when cornering, bounces at speed bumps and is not nice to drive in general. It also looks excessively high and the wheels are hidden in the wheel arches. 
 

I’ve spent the last week reading through the forum to find the right solution to this problem but am quite divided the my options. 
 

On one hand there are the Eibach Pro Kit or H&K which I’m confident would sort out the problems but I’m concerned it will become too low for the driving conditions where I live.

 

I also saw that fitting Sportline springs with new dampers also improves handling but I have no clue how to find out which are the right Sportline springs for my car. 
 

I also see that some people have recommended Lesjofors springs but couldn’t find out what the height would be with them and in general I wonder if it is a better option than the Sportline springs. 
 

Finally in terms of the dampers, I see a lot of positive reviews for Billstein B6 and mixed ones for Koni AS so I’m leaning towards the B6. I guess that could be combined with any of the above springs and would give good results. I see the Pro Kit suspension kit comes with B12 dampers and wondered what’s the difference between B12 and B6. 

 

Any help or suggestions about this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😊 

1 hour ago, Aztral said:

there are the Eibach Pro Kit

to avoid lowering, chose custom springs from some weightier car

2.0 TSI 220ps FWD got perfect result with these

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/?do=findComment&comment=5697693

 

3 hours ago, Aztral said:

It also looks excessively high and the wheels are hidden in the wheel arches. 

 

That is a contradiction in terms.

 

Did you order the vehicle with the rough road package? You speak of the driving conditions where you live so surely you cannot be surprised that it has a higher ride height and aesthetics should be low down on the priorities.

 

It sounds like your dampers are shot TBH, the spring rate might be fine with correct damping.

ï also have the rough road package. I will probably be going for B6 with the current springs and then a rear ARB.

 

A B12 kit should have B8 dampers, which are normally around 30mm shorter than the standard ones. So on my A2, I run the B8s with the -30mm Eibach springs and the combo works. For the Superb, I expect B6 with a different spring seat should drop it about 10mm from the raised height. I haven't seen an authoritative list of the parts that are different with the rough road package.

 

 

Hi 

Can't help re springs or rough road package sorry but I have B6 dampers with stock springs on my non DCC Estate (combi) and very pleased with the drive now especially twisty undulating roads and speed bumps. It's firmer but not harsh and feels more stable and planted. 

 

 

7 hours ago, Aztral said:

Hello everyone!

 

I have Skoda Superb Mk3 hatch FWD 2.0 TDI 200ps with Rough Road Protection suspension package and no DCC. 
 

With the rough road protection I’m really disappointed with the driving experience and the car aesthetics. It leans a lot when cornering, bounces at speed bumps and is not nice to drive in general. It also looks excessively high and the wheels are hidden in the wheel arches. 
 

I’ve spent the last week reading through the forum to find the right solution to this problem but am quite divided the my options. 
 

On one hand there are the Eibach Pro Kit or H&K which I’m confident would sort out the problems but I’m concerned it will become too low for the driving conditions where I live.

 

I also saw that fitting Sportline springs with new dampers also improves handling but I have no clue how to find out which are the right Sportline springs for my car. 
 

I also see that some people have recommended Lesjofors springs but couldn’t find out what the height would be with them and in general I wonder if it is a better option than the Sportline springs. 
 

Finally in terms of the dampers, I see a lot of positive reviews for Billstein B6 and mixed ones for Koni AS so I’m leaning towards the B6. I guess that could be combined with any of the above springs and would give good results. I see the Pro Kit suspension kit comes with B12 dampers and wondered what’s the difference between B12 and B6. 

 

Any help or suggestions about this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😊 

 

It sounds like you have increased ride height suspension.

 

Simply change to standard ride height springs, and fit some good standard ride height shock absorbers such as Bilstein B6.

 

Kilen/Lesjofors are likely to have suitable springs. Kilen and Lesjofors are the same springs, made in the same factory in Sweden. Just sold using two different brand names to help increase their market share.

 

As you are in Bulgaria, you might find that Lesjofors is more widely available than Kilen. It's different in the UK, as Kilen is more widely marketed than Lesjofors. Just choose what's available and/or cheapest.

 

As your car is fairly new, you could probably get a good price for your old springs and shock absorbers if they are OE (Original Equipment). To maximise resale value, make sure you find out what their OEM part numbers are, and use all of those numbers in the for sale listing.

 

Edited 15 June, 20232 yr by Carlston

I can recommend the B6 over the koni SA. 

The damping characteristics of B6 is identical to the B8. The B8 being shorter so more suited to lowering springs. Does not mean the B6 ban only be used for stock height. In fact for some time the B12 kit on the Octavia and golf came with B6. 

 

If you have the skills and tools then a set of B6 shocks should suit well with the stock springs and gives the flexibility to add lowering springs at a later date. This is what I did with my Octavia.

10 hours ago, MartiniB said:

to avoid lowering, chose custom springs from some weightier car

2.0 TSI 220ps FWD got perfect result with these

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/?do=findComment&comment=5697693

 

Thanks, I actually looked at this topic earlier but am a bit hesitant experimenting with springs made for a different model. I know perhaps it is perfectly fine but that’s the way I am. 
Do you know what is the drop that you got from standard height?
 

9 hours ago, J.R. said:

 

That is a contradiction in terms.

 

Did you order the vehicle with the rough road package? You speak of the driving conditions where you live so surely you cannot be surprised that it has a higher ride height and aesthetics should be low down on the priorities.

 

It sounds like your dampers are shot TBH, the spring rate might be fine with correct damping.

Sorry, I was not clear. It is the standard Superb track width that seems narrow to me but combined with the higher suspension it makes for for a bad aesthetics. I’ll probably get spacers to sort that out too. As for the rough road protection, yes I bought it with it and am quite disappointed. They didn’t explain in the dealership that the car comes with a raised suspension. I was expecting just additional skid plates etc. I mean roads are not great here but I won’t be doing off-roading so definitely don’t  need such a high ride 😂 

Probably Eibach Pro-Kit would be fine too but I don’t want to be thinking about kerbs and speed bumps too much. 

7 hours ago, brettikivi said:

ï also have the rough road package. I will probably be going for B6 with the current springs and then a rear ARB.

 

A B12 kit should have B8 dampers, which are normally around 30mm shorter than the standard ones. So on my A2, I run the B8s with the -30mm Eibach springs and the combo works. For the Superb, I expect B6 with a different spring seat should drop it about 10mm from the raised height. I haven't seen an authoritative list of the parts that are different with the rough road package.

 

 

Thank you! I also could not find the car parts what the parts for rough road package but took a pic of one of the springs (front) and it has a blue and grey dots. I will see if I can do the same with the shocks. 

4 minutes ago, Aztral said:

Thank you! I also could not find the car parts what the parts for rough road package but took a pic of one of the springs (front) and it has a blue and grey dots. I will see if I can do the same with the shocks. 

Copy paste from another thread:

 

5Q0411105HS front spring
1 grey paint mark and 1 blue paint mark
https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

5Q0411105HS is used on the Octavia MK3 Scout, so is an increased ride height front spring, at least when used on the Octavia MK3.

 

5Q0411105HS front spring

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/1/87966/detail?query=5Q0411105HS&numberType=1&oe=5Q0411105HS&groups=188#@brc/search:Search%20by%20any%20number%205Q0411105HS;query:5Q0411105HS;page:0/detail:87966;brandId:1;articleNo:87966;query:5Q0411105HS;numberType:1;oe:5Q0411105HS;groups:188

5 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

It sounds like you have increased ride height suspension.

 

Simply change to standard ride height springs, and fit some good standard ride height shock absorbers such as Bilstein B6.

 

Kilen/Lesjofors are likely to have suitable springs. Kilen and Lesjofors are the same springs, made in the same factory in Sweden. Just sold using two different brand names to help increase their market share.

 

As you are in Bulgaria, you might find that Lesjofors is more widely available than Kilen. It's different in the UK, as Kilen is more widely marketed than Lesjofors. Just choose what's available and/or cheapest.

 

As your car is fairly new, you could probably get a good price for your old springs and shock absorbers if they are OE (Original Equipment). To maximise resale value, make sure you find out what their OEM part numbers are, and use all of those numbers in the for sale listing.

 

Thanks that is really helpful!
Do you know if Lesjofors gives better performance than the standard springs? I’m still undecided whether to go for standard or Sportline as I believe Sportline height would be fine and might give better stability. 

2 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

I can recommend the B6 over the koni SA. 

The damping characteristics of B6 is identical to the B8. The B8 being shorter so more suited to lowering springs. Does not mean the B6 ban only be used for stock height. In fact for some time the B12 kit on the Octavia and golf came with B6. 

 

If you have the skills and tools then a set of B6 shocks should suit well with the stock springs and gives the flexibility to add lowering springs at a later date. This is what I did with my Octavia.

Thanks I think will go for the B6 but not sure if that also works well with the  springs I have now. 
 

Initially I was actually thinking of  changing the springs first and then dampers later when they are due for replacement but not sure what the current dampers are and respectively if they will fit the standard or Sportline springs. On the other hand not sure what results I will get. As far as I understand there is a fair bit of body roll with the standard suspension too so perhaps changing the shocks first will be better. 

Superb MK3 front shock absorber buffer

3	1K0412303B	rubber stop for shock absorber	70mm	2	PR-G01
3	1K0412303F	rubber stop for shock absorber	55mm	2	PR-G02
3	1K0412303AA	rubber stop for shock absorber	90mm	2	PR-G03

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

Superb MK3 rear shock absorber buffer

11	5Q0511357H	Stop buffer	127mm	2	PR-1JA,UC7
11	5Q0511357J	Stop buffer	112mm	2	PR-1JC

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5/511/511000

 

VW Codes Decoder

1JA = Standard ride height

UC7 = Increased ride height

1JC = Lowered ride height

 

Edited 16 June, 20232 yr by Carlston

6 hours ago, Aztral said:

Do you know what is the drop that you got from standard height?

-5 mm front, -15 mm rear, but DCC by default had -10mm

 

link above and numbers were comparison to my previous MY16 220ps.

now i have MY23 280ps, which have +12 mm in front and +22 mm rear

and annoying waterbed effect in Comfort/Normal modes.

OEM DCC will be definitely replaced, just not within this year

 

3 hours ago, Carlston said:

Superb MK3 front shock absorber buffer

3	1K0412303B	rubber stop for shock absorber	70mm	2	PR-G01
3	1K0412303F	rubber stop for shock absorber	55mm	2	PR-G02
3	1K0412303AA	rubber stop for shock absorber	90mm	2	PR-G03

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

Superb MK3 rear shock absorber buffer

11	5Q0511357H	Stop buffer	127mm	2	PR-1JA,UC7
11	5Q0511357J	Stop buffer	112mm	2	PR-1JC

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5/511/511000

 

VW Codes Decoder

1JA = Standard ride height

UC7 = Increased ride height

1JC = Lowered ride height

 

Thank you so much!
I think I’d rather go for the Lowered ride height which I believe would be what is fitted to the Sportline. 
 

Rear axle

There seem to be two shock absorbers with the 1JC code (3Q0513049FN and 3Q0513049FP)

However, finding the right rear spring seems to be a mission as there are 11 springs listed with the 1JC code. I might have to browse through them to see what the difference is. Do you have an idea what the second part of the code is for (eg. PR-1JC+0YA)?

I am wondering if that could give me a clue as to which one to choose. 

Front axle

Do you know what is the Lowered ride height code on the front axle shocks? I see there are three options again (G01, G02 and G03).

In terms of the front springs, is there a way I can find out what the corresponding colour code would be for FWD Sportline?

 

I see you’ve sent the shock absorber buffers. Would I need to change these as well?

the buffers will make a massive difference if you're using the softer springs with stiffer dampers. I would advise using the correct length ones for the dampers - i had the wrong ones on the A2 for a while and it was *terrible*.

 

I quite like my ride height, which is why I'll probably keep it but improve the damping. Thanks for the colour codes, they will help lots. I would also expect that the spring seats are simply bigger with the increased ride height.

 

I believe you'll find that the 0YA is a weight class for the rear axle. See also https://www.pkwteile.de/autoteile/skoda-ersatzteile/superb-3v3/112397/10221/stossdampfer for some explanations re sport / lowered / raised suspension - they all seem to use the same dampers.

 

Also: from the Lotus school of suspension thought - if you want the car to "breathe" over bumps, leave the springs softer, but fit "sportier" dampers. If you want to feel like you're steamrollering the road into submission, go for the stiffer springs.

I drove the same road with a 307 and the A2 a few years ago and it really opened my eyes to what i actually wanted from the car .... and the A2 now flows better but it's still too stiff for lower-speed "give-and-take" roads that are bumpy and curvy and only 80km/h. The body control is awesome with the upgraded ARBs... but it's not a flowing car. The 307 with standard dampers did that far better, even if it was rolling a lot. For the Superb, I don't need the low speed feel, it's a long-distance car and that won't change. So the softer springs with the better dampers should give the feel I want.

 

(sorry, that's lots of very specific english vocabulary - i can try to explain better if you want. this is about subtle differences in how the car feels when driving).

Comfort is a subjective thing and also more related to the damping characteristics. But you do need to complement the damping with the springs.

If you are after a specific feel (in this order):

1. Dampers (for the feel)

2. Springs (to match the dampers and required ride height)

3. Roll bars (to control the roll to the desired amount) (be aware that this can add to the spring rate so going slightly softer on the main springs won't hurt.

8 hours ago, Aztral said:

Thank you so much!
I think I’d rather go for the Lowered ride height which I believe would be what is fitted to the Sportline. 
 

Rear axle

There seem to be two shock absorbers with the 1JC code (3Q0513049FN and 3Q0513049FP)

However, finding the right rear spring seems to be a mission as there are 11 springs listed with the 1JC code. I might have to browse through them to see what the difference is. Do you have an idea what the second part of the code is for (eg. PR-1JC+0YA)?

I am wondering if that could give me a clue as to which one to choose. 

Front axle

Do you know what is the Lowered ride height code on the front axle shocks? I see there are three options again (G01, G02 and G03).

In terms of the front springs, is there a way I can find out what the corresponding colour code would be for FWD Sportline?

aI see you’ve sent the shock absorber buffers. Would I need to change these as well?

 

As you are fitting standard ride height shock absorbers, I suggest you first try standard ride height springs. There's a much better choice of aftermarket springs that are standard ride height, compared to lowered ride height springs. For example, some possible standard ride height springs are as follows. Notice that you do have the option of choosing 10mm lower front ride height springs compared to the normal standard ride height front springs. The VW Passat B8 uses the 5Q0411105CH front springs, so that would be a good place to start. The Superb MK3 hatchback and estate 2WD and Passat B8 hatchback 2WD use 3Q0511115AK rear springs. The Passat B8 estate 2WD uses 3Q0511115AL rear springs, which are 5% stiffer than 3Q0511115AK.

 

So I suggest you try 5Q0411105CH front springs and 3Q0511115AL rear springs, ie. the springs from the Passat B8 estate 2WD.

 

Bear in mind, that the lowered ride height springs on the Superb MK3 are the same stiffness as the standard springs, so the ones I am suggesting are 5% stiffer but standard ride height except for a 10mm drop on the front (so these 10mm lower front springs are actually between standard ride height and lowered ride height). 

 

If you ever find the 5% stiffer springs a little on the stiff side, simply use smaller diameter rims and tyres with bigger sidewalls. Perhaps even oversize 235/60R16 or 225/55R17. You can get some forged alloy 7Jx16 ET45 rims from old Audi A4/A6 cars around the year 2000 that only weigh about 7.3kg each. This is around half the weight of the very heavy standard 19" alloy rims, so it's possible to save about 30kg of unsprung weight by using these. 

 

The Superb MK3 2.0TDI 200HP 2WD hatchback with increased ride height, probably uses slightly thicker/stiffer anti-roll bars compared to the standard ride height car. If so, the cornering/handling will be tighter, ie. better controlled, even on the 5Q411105GM front springs and 3Q0511115AK rear springs.

 

It's worth getting a print-out of all your car's build codes, so that you can check what anti-roll bars you have fitted.

 

There's a seller on ebay that charges about 3 Euros for the build codes of VAG cars. Search "skoda vin decoder" on ebay, to find the listing. Or you might be able to get them by contacting Skoda in Bulgaria. When you have your car's build codes, you can find out the various OEM part numbers by reference to a Skoda parts catalogue, such as "skoda LLLparts" and "skoda 7zap".

 

"skoda vin decoder" listing on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224631127243

 

Some possible standard ride height front springs

5Q0411105GM (standard ride height front spring)

5Q0411105GN (5% stiffer)

5Q0411105CG (10mm lower)

5Q0411105CH (5% stiffer and 10mm lower)

 

Some possible standard ride height rear springs

3Q0511115AK (standard ride height rear springs)

3Q0511115AL (5% stiffer)

 

VW Codes Decoder

G01/1JA = Standard ride height

G02/1JC = Lowered ride height

G03/UC7 = Increased ride height

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

As you can see below, 0YA, 0YB, 0YC, etc. is simply the hierarchy of the length and/or stiffness of the springs. So 0YB would be slightly stiffer and/or longer than 0YA, and 0YC would be slightly stiffer and/or longer than 0YB, etc. However, you can check the actual specification of various springs by entering their OEM part number on various websites such as autodoc. Beware that many aftermarket springs have more than one OEM part number listed against them, and where this is the case, the spring might not be an exact match to the OEM part number that you want.

 

Hierarchy of springs

0YA = Weight range 1

0YB = Weight range 2

0YC = Weight range 3

0YD = Weight range 4

0YE = Weight range 5

0YF = Weight range 6

0YG = Weight range 7

0YH = Weight range 8

0YJ = Weight range 9

0YK = Weight range 10

 

Edited 16 June, 20232 yr by Carlston

9 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

As you are fitting standard ride height shock absorbers, I suggest you first try standard ride height springs. There's a much better choice of aftermarket springs that are standard ride height, compared to lowered ride height springs. For example, some possible standard ride height springs are as follows. Notice that you do have the option of choosing 10mm lower front ride height springs compared to the normal standard ride height front springs. The VW Passat B8 uses the 5Q0411105CH front springs, so that would be a good place to start. The Superb MK3 hatchback and estate 2WD and Passat B8 hatchback 2WD use 3Q0511115AK rear springs. The Passat B8 estate 2WD uses 3Q0511115AL rear springs, which are 5% stiffer than 3Q0511115AK.

 

So I suggest you try 5Q0411105CH front springs and 3Q0511115AL rear springs, ie. the springs from the Passat B8 estate 2WD.

 

Bear in mind, that the lowered ride height springs on the Superb MK3 are the same stiffness as the standard springs, so the ones I am suggesting are 5% stiffer but standard ride height except for a 10mm drop on the front (so these 10mm lower front springs are actually between standard ride height and lowered ride height). 

 

If you ever find the 5% stiffer springs a little on the stiff side, simply use smaller diameter rims and tyres with bigger sidewalls. Perhaps even oversize 235/60R16 or 225/55R17. You can get some forged alloy 7Jx16 ET45 rims from old Audi A4/A6 cars around the year 2000 that only weigh about 7.3kg each. This is around half the weight of the very heavy standard 19" alloy rims, so it's possible to save about 30kg of unsprung weight by using these. 

 

The Superb MK3 2.0TDI 200HP 2WD hatchback with increased ride height, probably uses slightly thicker/stiffer anti-roll bars compared to the standard ride height car. If so, the cornering/handling will be tighter, ie. better controlled, even on the 5Q411105GM front springs and 3Q0511115AK rear springs.

 

It's worth getting a print-out of all your car's build codes, so that you can check what anti-roll bars you have fitted.

 

There's a seller on ebay that charges about 3 Euros for the build codes of VAG cars. Search "skoda vin decoder" on ebay, to find the listing. Or you might be able to get them by contacting Skoda in Bulgaria. When you have your car's build codes, you can find out the various OEM part numbers by reference to a Skoda parts catalogue, such as "skoda LLLparts" and "skoda 7zap".

 

"skoda vin decoder" listing on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224631127243

 

Some possible standard ride height front springs

5Q0411105GM (standard ride height front spring)

5Q0411105GN (5% stiffer)

5Q0411105CG (10mm lower)

5Q0411105CH (5% stiffer and 10mm lower)

 

Some possible standard ride height rear springs

3Q0511115AK (standard ride height rear springs)

3Q0511115AL (5% stiffer)

 

VW Codes Decoder

G01/1JA = Standard ride height

G02/1JC = Lowered ride height

G03/UC7 = Increased ride height

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

As you can see below, 0YA, 0YB, 0YC, etc. is simply the hierarchy of the length and/or stiffness of the springs. So 0YB would be slightly stiffer and/or longer than 0YA, and 0YC would be slightly stiffer and/or longer than 0YB, etc. However, you can check the actual specification of various springs by entering their OEM part number on various websites such as autodoc. Beware that many aftermarket springs have more than one OEM part number listed against them, and where this is the case, the spring might not be an exact match to the OEM part number that you want.

 

Hierarchy of springs

0YA = Weight range 1

0YB = Weight range 2

0YC = Weight range 3

0YD = Weight range 4

0YE = Weight range 5

0YF = Weight range 6

0YG = Weight range 7

0YH = Weight range 8

0YJ = Weight range 9

0YK = Weight range 10

 

Wow, you are a star! Thank you so much for the detailed answer. This is extremely helpful.
 

You convinced me, I will go for the standard ride height. It will be an improvement to the current setup and gives me the peace of mind I won’t go too low. 
 

It will first speak to my Skoda dealer as besides the build codes I also need to make sure these modifications won’t impact my warranty.

 

Thanks again I think I have all I needed to know. 

13 hours ago, brettikivi said:

the buffers will make a massive difference if you're using the softer springs with stiffer dampers. I would advise using the correct length ones for the dampers - i had the wrong ones on the A2 for a while and it was *terrible*.

 

I quite like my ride height, which is why I'll probably keep it but improve the damping. Thanks for the colour codes, they will help lots. I would also expect that the spring seats are simply bigger with the increased ride height.

 

I believe you'll find that the 0YA is a weight class for the rear axle. See also https://www.pkwteile.de/autoteile/skoda-ersatzteile/superb-3v3/112397/10221/stossdampfer for some explanations re sport / lowered / raised suspension - they all seem to use the same dampers.

 

Also: from the Lotus school of suspension thought - if you want the car to "breathe" over bumps, leave the springs softer, but fit "sportier" dampers. If you want to feel like you're steamrollering the road into submission, go for the stiffer springs.

I drove the same road with a 307 and the A2 a few years ago and it really opened my eyes to what i actually wanted from the car .... and the A2 now flows better but it's still too stiff for lower-speed "give-and-take" roads that are bumpy and curvy and only 80km/h. The body control is awesome with the upgraded ARBs... but it's not a flowing car. The 307 with standard dampers did that far better, even if it was rolling a lot. For the Superb, I don't need the low speed feel, it's a long-distance car and that won't change. So the softer springs with the better dampers should give the feel I want.

 

(sorry, that's lots of very specific english vocabulary - i can try to explain better if you want. this is about subtle differences in how the car feels when driving).

Thank you, that is a really good explanation for dummies like me. 
 

That also convinces me to go for the standard height springs. Some of my of driving involves twisty mountain roads and that is why the body roll of the raised suspension annoys me so much. I think the standard springs with good shocks would provide  good compromise between comfort and stability and allow me to carry a family with a lot of luggage in the back. 

On 16/06/2023 at 15:35, Carlston said:

 

As you are fitting standard ride height shock absorbers, I suggest you first try standard ride height springs. There's a much better choice of aftermarket springs that are standard ride height, compared to lowered ride height springs. For example, some possible standard ride height springs are as follows. Notice that you do have the option of choosing 10mm lower front ride height springs compared to the normal standard ride height front springs. The VW Passat B8 uses the 5Q0411105CH front springs, so that would be a good place to start. The Superb MK3 hatchback and estate 2WD and Passat B8 hatchback 2WD use 3Q0511115AK rear springs. The Passat B8 estate 2WD uses 3Q0511115AL rear springs, which are 5% stiffer than 3Q0511115AK.

 

So I suggest you try 5Q0411105CH front springs and 3Q0511115AL rear springs, ie. the springs from the Passat B8 estate 2WD.

 

Bear in mind, that the lowered ride height springs on the Superb MK3 are the same stiffness as the standard springs, so the ones I am suggesting are 5% stiffer but standard ride height except for a 10mm drop on the front (so these 10mm lower front springs are actually between standard ride height and lowered ride height). 

 

If you ever find the 5% stiffer springs a little on the stiff side, simply use smaller diameter rims and tyres with bigger sidewalls. Perhaps even oversize 235/60R16 or 225/55R17. You can get some forged alloy 7Jx16 ET45 rims from old Audi A4/A6 cars around the year 2000 that only weigh about 7.3kg each. This is around half the weight of the very heavy standard 19" alloy rims, so it's possible to save about 30kg of unsprung weight by using these. 

 

The Superb MK3 2.0TDI 200HP 2WD hatchback with increased ride height, probably uses slightly thicker/stiffer anti-roll bars compared to the standard ride height car. If so, the cornering/handling will be tighter, ie. better controlled, even on the 5Q411105GM front springs and 3Q0511115AK rear springs.

 

It's worth getting a print-out of all your car's build codes, so that you can check what anti-roll bars you have fitted.

 

There's a seller on ebay that charges about 3 Euros for the build codes of VAG cars. Search "skoda vin decoder" on ebay, to find the listing. Or you might be able to get them by contacting Skoda in Bulgaria. When you have your car's build codes, you can find out the various OEM part numbers by reference to a Skoda parts catalogue, such as "skoda LLLparts" and "skoda 7zap".

 

"skoda vin decoder" listing on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224631127243

 

Some possible standard ride height front springs

5Q0411105GM (standard ride height front spring)

5Q0411105GN (5% stiffer)

5Q0411105CG (10mm lower)

5Q0411105CH (5% stiffer and 10mm lower)

 

Some possible standard ride height rear springs

3Q0511115AK (standard ride height rear springs)

3Q0511115AL (5% stiffer)

 

VW Codes Decoder

G01/1JA = Standard ride height

G02/1JC = Lowered ride height

G03/UC7 = Increased ride height

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

As you can see below, 0YA, 0YB, 0YC, etc. is simply the hierarchy of the length and/or stiffness of the springs. So 0YB would be slightly stiffer and/or longer than 0YA, and 0YC would be slightly stiffer and/or longer than 0YB, etc. However, you can check the actual specification of various springs by entering their OEM part number on various websites such as autodoc. Beware that many aftermarket springs have more than one OEM part number listed against them, and where this is the case, the spring might not be an exact match to the OEM part number that you want.

 

Hierarchy of springs

0YA = Weight range 1

0YB = Weight range 2

0YC = Weight range 3

0YD = Weight range 4

0YE = Weight range 5

0YF = Weight range 6

0YG = Weight range 7

0YH = Weight range 8

0YJ = Weight range 9

0YK = Weight range 10

 

I got the build codes list from the eBay seller you suggested. 

Front shocks and springs

G03 Shock absorption in front

 

L31 Suspension range 31 installation control only, no requirement forecast

Rear shocks and springs

UC7 Rear shock absorption,
chassis with increased ride height

 

0YD Weight range 4 installation control only, no requirement forecast

 

I couldn’t understand which code(s) are for the anti roll bar though. Do you know what I should be looking for?

On 15/06/2023 at 08:49, Aztral said:

Hello everyone!

 

I have Skoda Superb Mk3 hatch FWD 2.0 TDI 200ps with Rough Road Protection suspension package and no DCC. 
 

With the rough road protection I’m really disappointed with the driving experience and the car aesthetics. It leans a lot when cornering, bounces at speed bumps and is not nice to drive in general. It also looks excessively high and the wheels are hidden in the wheel arches. 
 

I’ve spent the last week reading through the forum to find the right solution to this problem but am quite divided the my options. 
 

On one hand there are the Eibach Pro Kit or H&K which I’m confident would sort out the problems but I’m concerned it will become too low for the driving conditions where I live.

 

I also saw that fitting Sportline springs with new dampers also improves handling but I have no clue how to find out which are the right Sportline springs for my car. 
 

I also see that some people have recommended Lesjofors springs but couldn’t find out what the height would be with them and in general I wonder if it is a better option than the Sportline springs. 
 

Finally in terms of the dampers, I see a lot of positive reviews for Billstein B6 and mixed ones for Koni AS so I’m leaning towards the B6. I guess that could be combined with any of the above springs and would give good results. I see the Pro Kit suspension kit comes with B12 dampers and wondered what’s the difference between B12 and B6. 

 

Any help or suggestions about this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😊 

Hi.

 

I have an Octavia 69 plate Sportline that I felt sat too high and seemed generally wobbly and poor ride over uneven surfaces. First all I tried to improve the ride by fitting a set of 30mm lowering springs which made the car sit nicely without looking too low and was nice round bends etc but still terrible over uneven surfaces. I bit the bullet and bought a set of Blistein B8 dampers which have the same gas pressure as the B6's but have a shorter telescopic damper for use with lowering springs, as I already have the lowering springs I technically now have the B12 kit fitted to the car. My top mounts were shot (after 35k 🙄) so these were replaced along with the front droplinks that looked like they were made of cheese!

 

The difference is night and day! OK it's a firmer ride but it's not uncomfortable and the new suspension deals with the uneven road surfaces so much better, the car feel much more "sure-footed" at all speeds and as its only lowered 30mm I still have a decent amount if ground clearance and the front lower lip still clears kerb stones.

 

Worth every penny in my opinion 😎

KYB RA1492 standard ride height front springs matching 5Q0411105GN (5% stiffer than standard)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/kyb/18427435

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334864868818

 

KYB RA5331 standard ride height rear springs matching 3Q0511115AL (5% stiffer than standard)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/kyb/15818091

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334864868820

 

Front anti-roll bar

16	3Q0411303	Front anti-roll bar	24.0x3.8mm	1	PR-1X0
16	3Q0411303C	Front anti-roll bar	24.0x3.8mm	1	PR-1X1+DG6,DN4,DE5
16	3Q0411303D	Front anti-roll bar	25.0x4.0mm	1	PR-1X1+DF5,D14

 

Rear anti-roll bar

16	5Q0511305AR	Rear anti-roll bar	19.6x2.6mm	1	PR-1X0+0BD
16	5Q0511305AS	Rear anti-roll bar	20.7x2.8mm	1	CZCA,CZDA, CZEA,CJSA, CJSC,DCXA+ PR-1JA
16	5Q0511305AT	Rear anti-roll bar	21.7x3.0mm	1	CHHB,CRLB, DDAA+ PR-1JA
16	5Q0511305AT	Rear anti-roll bar	21.7x3.0mm	1	PR-UC7
16	5Q0511305AT	Rear anti-roll bar	21.7x3.0mm	1	CZCA,CZDA, CZEA,CJSA, CJSC,DCXA+ PR-1JC
16	5Q0511305AT	Rear anti-roll bar	21.7x3.0mm	1	PR-1JP
16	5Q0511305BA	Rear anti-roll bar	21.7x3.6mm	1	PR-1JC CHHB,CRGA,
16	5Q0511305BA	Rear anti-roll bar	21.7x3.6mm	1	PR-UC7 CHHB

 

Skoda engine codes

https://vag-codes.info/files/engines/skoda-engines.pdf

 

Edited 18 June, 20232 yr by Carlston

On 17/06/2023 at 01:28, Aztral said:

Thank you, that is a really good explanation for dummies like me. 
 

That also convinces me to go for the standard height springs. Some of my of driving involves twisty mountain roads and that is why the body roll of the raised suspension annoys me so much. I think the standard springs with good shocks would provide  good compromise between comfort and stability and allow me to carry a family with a lot of luggage in the back. 

Add a better / stiffer rear ARB at the same time. I believe there's one from Whiteline and maybe one from H&R. They make an awful lot of difference in the roll without compromising ride much.

On 15/06/2023 at 19:38, MarkyG82 said:

I can recommend the B6 over the koni SA. 

The damping characteristics of B6 is identical to the B8. The B8 being shorter so more suited to lowering springs. Does not mean the B6 ban only be used for stock height. In fact for some time the B12 kit on the Octavia and golf came with B6. 

 

If you have the skills and tools then a set of B6 shocks should suit well with the stock springs and gives the flexibility to add lowering springs at a later date. This is what I did with my Octavia.

So for b6s you can lower it more with lowering springs?? I have the Superb Sportline 2018 2.0tdi hatchback so I believe that's already lowered can I use the b6s without any problems?