Main dealer part prices?

[Guest]

Hi guys,

 

I know main Skoda dealers/official service centres are bit pricier, but my local garages were asking for more than Skoda for a full service and oils, so I took it to Skoda.....

Apparently the rear caliper needed to be replaced, which I don't doubt as I knew something was up but they wanted to change the pads and disc due to damage from the caliper and so then you also buying pads and disks for the other side

£400! I about fainted, £400 for the parts that is lol, 1 caliper 2 rear disks and 2 rear pads somehow comes to £400.

Whats going on?

Luckily I was able to decline, I trust these guys, but what is going on with OEM skoda part pricing? surely they can't be charging this much

[Prezafab]

That doesn't sound too horrific for genuine Skoda parts fitted and warranted by Skoda. Can't see it being less than £300 from a good independent for true OEM parts? Labour isn't cheap these days.

 

Or go independent but replace 1 disk and 1 pad set if you are saying Skoda will only sell (and fit) you a pair...?

Edited 17 August, 2023 by Prezafab

[Guest]

I think you missed the part where I said that was just the parts price lol, the labour took it to £520

Yea £285 and warranted by my local garage which is what I thought instead of £520 the dealer wanted

[Breezy_Pete]

I make it £467.40 including VAT, retail, for genuine bits from Skoda. Caliper alone is £218.50 + VAT.

[Carlston]

2 hours ago, CEB123 said:

Hi guys,

 

I know main Skoda dealers/official service centres are bit pricier, but my local garages were asking for more than Skoda for a full service and oils, so I took it to Skoda.....

Apparently the rear caliper needed to be replaced, which I don't doubt as I knew something was up but they wanted to change the pads and disc due to damage from the caliper and so then you also buying pads and disks for the other side

£400! I about fainted, £400 for the parts that is lol, 1 caliper 2 rear disks and 2 rear pads somehow comes to £400.

Whats going on?

Luckily I was able to decline, I trust these guys, but what is going on with OEM skoda part pricing? surely they can't be charging this much

 

You can get a good secondhand rear left or rear right brake caliper for about £25.

 

You can get new Bosch rear 272x10mm brake discs for about £30 each, and a set of new Ferodo rear brake pads for about £25.

 

Total parts cost about £80 plus shipping. Then perhaps about 1 hour's labour at about £85 including VAT. Let's say under £200 total cost including labour.

 

Left rear brake caliper 5K0615423 (for 272x10mm rear brake disc 1KS)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=5K0615423&_sacat=0&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=4&_oaa=1&rt=nc&Brand=Volkswagen&_dcat=33563

 

Right rear brake caliper 5K0615424 (for 272x10mm rear brake disc 1KS)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_oaa=1&_dcat=33563&_fsrp=1&rt=nc&_from=R40&_nkw=5K0615424&_sacat=0&_sop=15&Brand=Volkswagen

 

Check that your 2015 Yeti 4x4 150HP has build code 1KS for the rear brakes.

 

Edited 17 August, 2023 by Carlston

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

I make it £467.40 including VAT, retail, for genuine bits from Skoda. Caliper alone is £218.50 + VAT.

 

Crazy

[Breezy_Pete]

Yep, I'd go with Carlston's suggestions.

[Carlston]

11 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

Caliper alone is £218.50 + VAT.

 

Secondhand calipers on ebay are about £25.

 

I would strip it down, clean it up, perhaps fit a cheap rebuild kit, and hand it to the mechanic for fitting.

 

However, you could just visually check it to make sure the rubber seals aren't damaged/split and take a chance that the piston slides in and out easily and doesn't leak.

 

Edited 17 August, 2023 by Carlston

[Breezy_Pete]

Just now, Carlston said:

 

Secondhand calipers on ebay are about £25.

Definitely the way to go.

 

[Guest]

I'm not sure I'd go for 2nd hand as I've no idea what I'm doing.
I'll wait for more quotes and see whats what but I'm more than happy at £300 or so for the job.

Its actually reminded me of when I got the pads and disks front and rear done as I enquired about here on this forum apparently

My Napa brakes are in great condition, minus the one borked by the caliper and they've done 50k fairly hard A and B road miles in almost 3 years, the Skoda OEM's lasted me 8 months and they refused to warranty them due to being over 20k miles.
So not only is VAG stuff more expensive it also lasts half the time, so you can imagine my scepticism at the £220 caliper lol

 

[Carlodiesel]

Yeti 150 4x4

Rear Brake caliper new, Ridex  £39.28 ea Aluminium.  cast iron £43.90

Rear discs 272mm £19.93 ea   Rear discs (2) & pads Bosch set £78.89

Jurid rear pads set £17.25

Subject to confirmation with reg number.

So to me not worth getting 2nd hand bits.

Edited 17 August, 2023 by Carlodiesel

[MCAMRA]

16 minutes ago, CEB123 said:

I'm not sure I'd go for 2nd hand as I've no idea what I'm doing.
I'll wait for more quotes and see whats what but I'm more than happy at £300 or so for the job.

Its actually reminded me of when I got the pads and disks front and rear done as I enquired about here on this forum apparently

My Napa brakes are in great condition, minus the one borked by the caliper and they've done 50k fairly hard A and B road miles in almost 3 years, the Skoda OEM's lasted me 8 months and they refused to warranty them due to being over 20k miles.
So not only is VAG stuff more expensive it also lasts half the time, so you can imagine my scepticism at the £220 caliper lol

 

We bought our Yeti in 2011. It has done lets say 120k miles. 

 

We replaced the discs and pads for the very first time this year since buying the car 12 years ago.

 

With Skoda bits BTW. It did not cost much to be fair. 

 

Why are you replacing brake components so often on your car ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Prezafab]

You pays your money and takes your choice.

 

I will say though that genuine does tend to last. Be it Audi/Seat/VW/Skoda or Volvo or Subaru. There are parts I would still buy genuine, but brake parts are fine OEM aftermarket.

[137699]

Strikes me as pretty normal pricing for genuine parts - I don't understand why you were shocked?

[Carlodiesel]

21 hours ago, Prezafab said:

You pays your money and takes your choice.

 

I will say though that genuine does tend to last. Be it Audi/Seat/VW/Skoda or Volvo or Subaru. There are parts I would still buy genuine, but brake parts are fine OEM aftermarket.

 

On my Yeti, still with original brake discs & pads, has Bosch stamped all over them.🙂

As far as longevity goes, it's all down to the driver.

[Prezafab]

Disagree. It's not all down to the driver.

 

Decent quality OEM parts last as well - I fit Pagid brakes, and have just put on Bilstein shocks, but show me a pattern exhaust which lasts longer than genuine. Likewise I bought some aftermarket brake discs and pads on a previous car which were just not up to the job after you had worn away the top 20% of material. 

Edited 18 August, 2023 by Prezafab

[MCAMRA]

1 hour ago, Prezafab said:

Disagree. It's not all down to the driver.

 

The brakes on our Yeti lasted 12 years from when the car was bought from new. They got changed for the first time this year since 2011.

 

And to be fair when they were replaced, they still had few thousand miles left.

 

I expect the new brakes (original parts) will last the same time. 10 years probably. 

 

I don’t understand why people are changing their brake components so often.

 

 

 

 

Edited 18 August, 2023 by MCAMRA

[Fabcol]

Hi,

 

At the seven year service in July this year there was an "Amber" front brake discs & pads 75% worn. The Yeti a 2.0L diesel SE L has only covered 32,000 miles and I drive using the gears so I'm concerned about the discs needing changing at such a low mileage;  main dealer cost £352 for a pair of discs & pads? Our Yeti has always been main dealer serviced from new.

 

 

Kind regards, Colin.

[Prezafab]

I shouldn't worry Colin. Those dealer health check sheets are mostly about business generation. I took our Yeti in for a haldex, and dsg oil change to our Yorkshire Skoda dealer 2 years ago because we had just moved and I didn't know how good the local garage was at the time.

 

The technician came out and explained that a pair of bushes would need doing soon on the front because they were 'peeling out'.

 

It's just been through its second MOT since then and neither MOT has mentioned as an advisory. 

I also had some new shock absorbers last week (at the local garage) and asked them to replace any other bits while it was in pieces. No extra bushes required ! The car has done 97,000m now.

 

 

 

Edited 22 August, 2023 by Prezafab

[freedie]

16 hours ago, Fabcol said:

Our Yeti has always been main dealer serviced from new.

 

This certainly doesn't mean you can't go to an alternative trusted workshop for replacing discs and pads...

[Fabcol]

Hi,

 

Thanks Prezafab; I'm coming to the same conclusion; everyone's a rip off merchant these days. Our Yeti at only 32,000 miles shouldn't require new brake discs but as I'm rustproofing the Yeti if it ever dries due to rain & dew I'll have a close look at the pads and I believe there are disc thickness specifications  which I can easily measure using digital vernier calipers or micrometer; I'm a mechanical engineer by trade so have a good workshop and replacing discs and pads won't be a problem. I've just become lazy regarding cars since 1990 when we started buying brand new cars hence our car then was always under warranty; I've just started getting my hands dirty again and apart from our dire climate I'm enjoying it.

 

Thanks freedie; as I say I can replace the discs & pads at home without problem; I'd like genuine Ferodo parts so will have a look around but with winter knocking on the door I might wait now until next springtime after all the mileage covered these days is very low; had it been a matter of urgency I'd have already done the job because I'll never compromise on safety.

 

Sorry CEB123 for hijacking your thread.

 

 

[xman]

The question we should all be asking is why so many Skoda rear calipers need changing. (Poor design/quality) and why VAG brake components in general are such poor quality.

 

Why are VAG and Skoda in particular not using better quality disks and ceramic pads? I'd not notice the extra £50 on the rrp of the vehicle and I'd appreciate the low brake dust and long life of pads and disks.

 

[Fabcol]

Hi,

 

I've just been browsing the web for genuine Ferodo parts; please note brake disc thickness at 22mm. This morning I've been working on the nearside front of our Yeti with the wheel removed and wing liner; using a micrometer I measured the thickness of the disc it's slightly over 21mm. The main dealership at the service in July recommended both front discs & pads be replaced?

 

 

Sorry for the poor scan but seen is £352 for discs & pads inc fitting.

 

 

 

I've now got a choice; fit pads only saving around £300 or fit pads and discs for little over £100; just rough figures but near enough for this comparison. For years I've trusted the main dealership. I can take plenty of time doing the job myself and possibly doing the job better?

 

Kind regards, Colin.

 

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Edited 24 August, 2023 by Fabcol

[Prezafab]

Colin, Trade Parts Specialists in Huddersfield supply genuine parts, but you probably need a trade account these days rather than just a "taxi" to get them to supply.  You could always turn up with a list of the genuine Skoda parts you want and see if they hold the door open for you on the way out, or not?

[Carlston]

3 hours ago, Fabcol said:

I've just been browsing the web for genuine Ferodo parts...

 

The brand "Ferodo" has been bought and sold a number of times since 1998, when it ceased to be a British company.

 

I suspect Turner & Newall sold out to Federal-Mogul in 1998 because of massive asbestos claims and a £400 million pension deficit. In 2001, this caused the American buyer Federal-Mogul to put their company into Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in America.

 

So it seems that "Ferodo" (or the company that owned the brand, ie. Turner & Newall) had the business ethics and moral compass of the notorious Robert Maxwell.

 

This is another shameful part of UK history, where UK politicians allowed businesses to cause serious and permanent damage to the health of their workers and allowed UK businesses to steal the pensions of their workers.

 

Timeline of "Ferodo" ownership

1926 Acquired by Turner & Newall (British)

1998 Acquired by Federal-Mogul (American)

2018 Acquired by Tenneco (American)

2022 Acquired by Apollo Global Management (American)

 

Edited 24 August, 2023 by Carlston