The problem is a complete and dangerous nonsense and as said above it is quite possible that someone is going to be killed because of it.

I have experienced it on a few occasions while entering a dual carriageway  and have had the software updates installed but it still occurs though infrequently.

Surely the engine should be capable of not stalling irrespective of drivers driving methods, I have never experienced anything like this in over 50 years of driving all types of vehicles. Manufacturers have a responsibility to ensure a vehicle is safe to drive and allow for non perfect driving skills as they do for suspension/steering configuration.

@ken2   Were you in too high a gear then with the manual gearbox 1.5 TSI ACT? 

1 minute ago, Karock said:

The problem is a complete and dangerous nonsense and as said above it is quite possible that someone is going to be killed because of it.

I have experienced it on a few occasions while entering a dual carriageway  and have had the software updates installed but it still occurs though infrequently.

Surely the engine should be capable of not stalling irrespective of drivers driving methods, I have never experienced anything like this in over 50 years of driving all types of vehicles. Manufacturers have a responsibility to ensure a vehicle is safe to drive and allow for non perfect driving skills as they do for suspension/steering configuration.

I quite agree I have over 60 years of driving with different makes and never experienced the like, from all other poste it seems I will get no joy from Skoda.

1 minute ago, Ootohere said:

@ken2   Were you in too high a gear then with the manual gearbox 1.5 TSI ACT? 

It is quite possible think I was in third and it just cut out 

@ken2   Skoda Main Dealers are not SKODA.    If you get no place with your communications with Skoda / VW UK the importers then you might once you and others let the DVSA know you are getting no place with your fears. 

They can talk with Skoda / VW UK and maybe be panned off.

 

Speak with the Dealer Principal where you are taking your car. Be sure the Master Tech & Dealer Principal are passing your concerns to the Importers, so Skoda / VW UK.

 

If you let the Service Manager or Sales Executive pan you off you get no place.   There are Corporate Responsibilities, and these Dealerships and Manufacturers need to remember 

that is them.

 

Let them put in righting that there are no issues with your vehicle or others experiencing the same as you, or saying they are. 

https://www.trocforums.co.uk/threads/engine-cutting-out-at-junctions.3524/
 

interesting reading, and also the thread I posted on P1

On 30/04/2024 at 08:56, Tebba61 said:

I've also had this issue on my 23my 1.5 TSI manual, the Karoq has done less than a 1000 miles and occasionally cuts out for no apparent reason when coming up to junctions etc, last week it did it just as I was pulling out on a busy road from a petrol station, the oncoming traffic had to stop whilst I started it again, at first I thought it was me getting used to a new vehicle but after reading these post's I'm not alone, I'm now going to monitor it and keep a log and get in touch with Skoda customer services 

Best of luck, from what I can gather not many have any success,I have mine booked in at the end of the month. Like you I thought likewise also tried disengaging the start stop but made no difference.

My Karoq is 10 months old 

From my experience, I would advise anyone with a misbehaving 1.5tsi to reject the car while you are still able. I forget the rules now, but there are time limits. I will see if I can find the original thread.

1 minute ago, StEdmund said:

From my experience, I would advise anyone with a misbehaving 1.5tsi to reject the car while you are still able. I forget the rules now, but there are time limits. I will see if I can find the original thread.

Much appreciated would like to know.

This is, as far as I can find, the earliest thread on the topic ...........

 

 

There's more on here ......

 

 

 

 

The 2018/19 issue was then this is now.   

The early stuff does not really have relevance.   Other thn how long they denied there were issues.  Unsafe cars. They even had ones off the road for months and people driving loan cars.

 

 Last year they managed apparently to build and then sell to people vehicles having issues.

They must have been messing about with Engine Management so you need Skoda / VW Group to accept that there are issues now with year old or less cars. 

The 2018/19 issue was then this is now.   

The early stuff does not really have relevance. 

 

6 years later, and the symptoms sound the same.

 

Good luck!

11 hours ago, StEdmund said:

The 2018/19 issue was then this is now.   

The early stuff does not really have relevance. 

 

6 years later, and the symptoms sound the same.

 

Good luck!

 

I don't think they are the same. The original problem was a lack of torque when pulling away and kangarooing. 

 

The current issue is cutting out when slowing to a stop I believe.

 

As again it's only affecting manuals it surely can be rectified in software. If it was an inherent engine design issue it would affect DSG's

As again it's only affecting manuals it surely can be rectified in software. If it was an inherent engine design issue it would affect DSG's

 

That early thread was 117 pages long - there's a lot of stuff in there including car rejection and so on. It was noted that manuals were far more badly affected than DSGs and the conclusion was that DSG could, in some way, compensate for the issue.

 

Different drivers perceived and described the issue differently - kangarooing and cutting out were the main two problems described. 

On the cutting out when slowing down I've noticed on the EVO2 1.5TSi DSG this also happens.  The revs will die to zero when still moving a few miles an hour.

 

The difference is the engine will auto restart if the brake pedal is lifted or accelerator pressed.

 

Saying that I've never had an engine off situation when stop start is off.

11 minutes ago, logiclee said:

On the cutting out when slowing down I've noticed on the EVO2 1.5TSi DSG this also happens.  The revs will die to zero when still moving a few miles an hour.

 

The difference is the engine will auto restart if the brake pedal is lifted or accelerator pressed.

 

Saying that I've never had an engine off situation when stop start is off.

Hi logiclee,

Regards the auto on/off for me it seems to make no difference.

Also didn't realise regards brake pedal or accelerator, I put the brake on and press start, will try what you do next time 

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The difference is the engine will auto restart if the brake pedal is lifted or accelerator pressed.

 

Saying that I've never had an engine off situation when stop start is off.

 

logiclee, That sounds like an over-enthusiastic stop-start, which is not what others seem to be seeing.

In your case , does the Stop/Start Icon illuminate in the display ?

Also , try moving the steering wheel slightly and see if the engine starts. If its a stop-start initiated engine stop, then that will cause a restart.

11 minutes ago, NottsIan said:

 

logiclee, That sounds like an over-enthusiastic stop-start, which is not what others seem to be seeing.

In your case , does the Stop/Start Icon illuminate in the display ?

Also , try moving the steering wheel slightly and see if the engine starts. If its a stop-start initiated engine stop, then that will cause a restart.

 

It's never an issue as I'm coming to a stop or it will instantly restart, and yes I put this down to enthusiastic Stop/Start.  

 

And to clarify mine is DSG as stated above

Update to previous post, I now have a leader of business at the dealership contact me after I threatened to hand the car back under the 30 day rule.

Some interesting questions from VAG HQ

wanting to know what warning lights appear etc.

I have agreed to 1 more diagnostic before I give up and go Japanese.

 

Paul.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Bikerp said:

Update to previous post, I now have a leader of business at the dealership contact me after I threatened to hand the car back under the 30 day rule.

Some interesting questions from VAG HQ

wanting to know what warning lights appear etc.

I have agreed to 1 more diagnostic before I give up and go Japanese.

 

Paul.

 

 

Good luck Paul,y car is now coming up to the 1year old, the most frustrating thing is it only happens very occasionally.

Possibly I will get rid soon than later, shame as the car is ideal with the large boot for wife's wheelchair.

Ken

Yes, mine is exactly the same, I love the car, the drive is very good but the random issue is dangerous and guaranteed to catch you out at the wrong moment.

As someone has already mentioned what will it take before VAG recognise the issue, dead customers don't buy another vehicle !

 

Update, the Leader of the local dealership has been InTouch but out of office so I contacted the main dealership and had a fob off call. I now see no alternative but hand the car back under the 2015 sale of goods act as unsafe.

Paul.

59 minutes ago, Bikerp said:

Update, the Leader of the local dealership has been InTouch but out of office so I contacted the main dealership and had a fob off call. I now see no alternative but hand the car back under the 2015 sale of goods act as unsafe.

Paul.

Good luck cannot remember but is your car just a few months old.

Yes, when I first contacted dealership it was within the 30 day period, I agreed to allow a diagnostic to try and find the fault but reserved the right to return should it not be found

 

Paul.

1 hour ago, Bikerp said:

Yes, when I first contacted dealership it was within the 30 day period, I agreed to allow a diagnostic to try and find the fault but reserved the right to return should it not be found

 

Paul.

Hi Bikerp,

Wish I had done the same when mine first started cutting out but due to me being my wife's carer I didn't bother thinking it would resolve itself anyway 10 months on I will persevere and get rid in the near future.shame as I like the car.

Ken