Hopefully getting a nearly new (ex demonstrator) Kamiq Monte Carlo next week (1.5 TSI Manual), which comes with the 18 inch Vega wheels and no spare.

 

I have suffered a fair few punctures over my many years of motoring and have always had a spare wheel. The official Skoda spare wheel kit is not currently available (back order, no idea when it might come) and is a space saver anyway, I'd rather have something that doesn't restrict me to 50mph, because inevitably when a puncture occurs it will be a long way from home at a time when tyre places aren't open.

 

I've read the various other Spare Wheel threads on here where there is suggestion that the 18 inch wheel/tyre (215/45 R 18) won't actually fit in the spare wheel well, but there seems to be no definitive answer on this - can someone confirm does it fit or not?

 

Also, what are the options, what should I buy? Previous cars, I've just bought a matching alloy and full size tyre, but I suspect the Vega alloys will be silly money if you can even get just one! And as above, don't want to then find it won't actually fit in the wheel well.

 

Advice please, as I won't be happy driving anywhere in it until I've got a spare wheel sorted.

 

Thanks!

 

The space in the wheel well is very tight even around the space saver its designed for. So 18" is not going to work without bottoming out and sitting proud and even then there is a chance it's going to wedge itself in. Just not worth the hassle when you need not space or when you need to replace a wheel at the road side in my opinion.

I'd live with the compressor/gunk and a repair kit until you can order the proper spare.

What about this? Not cheap

https://www.caffynscarparts.com/skoda-kamiq-spare-wheel-kit-1850-p.asp?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaCR6GrhMf5KhRXd5u88tASUOmG0PYbcERKMx5rhBz6ssfKnPQiyLghoCuOAQAvD_BwE

 

Otherwise add something like this.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303506971578?chn=ps&_ul=GB&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1yqKkwCn9Rh2P7WGQ2QSPfA58&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=303506971578&targetid=1816181029899&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1006693&poi=&campaignid=19090194174&mkgroupid=147009364227&rlsatarget=pla-1816181029899&abcId=9303860&merchantid=137612865&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_Lr1c-xu_gIhSSTr9a785a8fxWP&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaAEw7osphIhzyoDJqEFLYZoxIfPIHICHl8VogmsDrNmhbLj86rDPwBoCNUgQAvD_BwE

Edited 16 May, 20242 yr by Stoker

11 hours ago, RallySimon said:

Hopefully getting a nearly new (ex demonstrator) Kamiq Monte Carlo next week (1.5 TSI Manual), which comes with the 18 inch Vega wheels and no spare.

 

I have suffered a fair few punctures over my many years of motoring and have always had a spare wheel. The official Skoda spare wheel kit is not currently available (back order, no idea when it might come) and is a space saver anyway, I'd rather have something that doesn't restrict me to 50mph, because inevitably when a puncture occurs it will be a long way from home at a time when tyre places aren't open.

 

I've read the various other Spare Wheel threads on here where there is suggestion that the 18 inch wheel/tyre (215/45 R 18) won't actually fit in the spare wheel well, but there seems to be no definitive answer on this - can someone confirm does it fit or not?

 

Also, what are the options, what should I buy? Previous cars, I've just bought a matching alloy and full size tyre, but I suspect the Vega alloys will be silly money if you can even get just one! And as above, don't want to then find it won't actually fit in the wheel well.

 

Advice please, as I won't be happy driving anywhere in it until I've got a spare wheel sorted.

 

Thanks!

 

I bought a new 16'' steel wheel online and had local tyre company put tyre on it. (205/60R16 if i remember correctly) fit's very nicely in the wheel well in the boot. cost £130 all together...I've also got 18'' wheels fitted to the car..

Thankyou both for your replies.

 

Stoker - the link you put to Caffyns looks ideal - not cheap, but just what I need, so I've ordered one. Might get the tyre changed at some point to the 205/60R16 instead of the 195 width it comes with, but not urgent, its close enough in the case of emergency.

 

Cheers.

Unfortunatley, Caffyns have been in touch to say they don't have the spare wheel kit in stock and its therefore back order from CZ, so order cancelled.

 

After a quick look on ebay, I found a used matching 18 inch Vega Alloy wheel complete with part worn tyre (7mm tread) for £199, so I've ordered that.

 

I know it may not fit in the wheel well, but my current Karoq doesn't even have a wheel well and I just have a full size spare upside down in the boot with a bowl full of useful tools and stuff inside it and a cover over it.

 

I'm single with no kids or family so never need to put loads of stuff in the boot, it leaves more than enough space, so I'll just do the same with this if it doesn't fit in the wheel well

 

If it goes in the wheel well and just raises the boot floor a bit, even better, I can make some supports for the edges of the floor to keep it stable on top of the wheel.

 

I already have the jack and wheel brace I bought for the Karoq, I presume they will be fine? (Same size wheel bolts for the brace?).

 

At least this way, if I do get a puncture, once changed I can carry on with the journey at normal speed.

 

Cheers.

 

At least it puts your mind at rest and if you don't need that space you have probably benefitted in all honesty.

The Spare will fit well enough in the Spare Tyre well and then when your car is loaded and if you had a puncture the wheel off the car will go in and there will be the same space in the boot. Just because a tyre is punctured does not change the width of wheel and tyre that much. 

At least if you fit the spare wheel down into the wheel well and secure with the correct bolt thing, and same for the tools kit, it will not be free to "come and get you" if you are unfortunate enough to be involved in an event where the car gets rolled over.

I recently traded in a 2021 Monta Carlo with a full size spare wheel for a brand new 73 plate Monte Carlo with a pathetic tyre inflation kit.  
 

You should have seen the look on the salesman’s face when upon collecting my 73 plate I proceeded to swap the inflation kit for the spare wheel.

 

He wasn’t impressed, and I didn’t care.

 

Guys, next time you go and order a new car make sure that you insist on a full spare wheel instead of an inflation kit.  You’ll be surprised how willing they will be to accommodate you if the deal hinges on it, that’s what I’ll be doing next time.

 

OP, call the dealer and tell him/her that the deal depends on them providing you with a full spare wheel.

 

 

 

 

Edited 17 May, 20242 yr by carefree

Don't forget the Kamiq and Scala have sisters in Seat Arona and VW T-cross and Taigo.

 

Found following on a Seat Arona forum

 

The spare wheel is normally 205/60 R16 on steel rim

The Arona is 5 bolt 100mm diameter bolt spacing with centre 57.1mm

I ordered the spare with the car, but only about 2-3mm clearance all around tyre in the well, not sure why they didn't make it about 10mm diameter bigger. A worn tyre will have about 5mm less tread (10mm diameter smaller) so might fit

205/60 R16 (spare) has diameter of 652.4mm
205/55 R17 (17 inch wheels) diameter 657.3mm
215/45 R18 (X Lux & FR sport) diameter of 650.7mm

 

So looks like the 18 inch wheels are marginally smaller than the factory spare, but 17 inch wheels with full tread are going to be harder to get in the wheel well.

 

 

Just ordered the spare wheel and wheel kit from Skoda Parts (Czech). Total cost 231 Euros (£196) delivered by Fedex in 5 -7 days. Best price a UK dealer could do was £220 and that was giving 10% off. 2 others were £260 (ish). They would have to order it and I'd have had to collect. 

None of the dealers seemed at all interested in competing. Used the (Czech) outfit for a set of mud flaps  previously. Great service.

3 hours ago, Stripeyzebra said:

Just ordered the spare wheel and wheel kit from Skoda Parts (Czech).

 

The outside diameter of the standard Kamiq tyre sizes are between 3.0% and 4.0% bigger than the 205/55R16 spare tyre, as shown in the chart below.

 

Skoda seem to have a habit of supplying spare tyres that have an outside diameter considerably smaller than the standard tyre sizes.

 

Some Skoda dealers list a 195/65R15 tyre and 6Jx15 ET35 5/100 57.1 steel rim for use as a spare wheel for both the Scala and the Kamiq. However, the outside diameter of 195/65R15 is close to the standard Scala tyre sizes but quite a bit smaller than the outside diameter of the standard Kamiq tyre sizes. Hence, 205/70R15 is closer to the outside diameter of the standard Kamiq tyre sizes compared to 195/65R15.

 

The 195/65R15 6Jx15 ET35 wheel size is listed in the Scala owner's manual as suitable for use with snow chains. The 195/65R15 6Jx15 ET35 wheel size is not shown in the Kamiq owner's manual as suitable for use with snow chains. However, the 195/65R15 6Jx15 ET35 wheel size has been shown by Skoda dealers as suitable for use as a spare wheel. Therefore, you don't need a Skoda approved wheel size (as shown in the car's Certificate of Conformity) for use as a spare wheel.

 

Outside diameter of standard Kamiq tyre sizes compared to 205/55R16 

205/60R16 652.4mm (3.2% bigger outside diameter compared to 205/55R16)

205/55R17 657.3mm (4.0% bigger outside diameter compared to 205/55R16)

215/45R18 650.7mm (3.0% bigger outside diameter compared to 205/55R16)

205/55R16 631.9mm

 

Outside diameter of standard Kamiq tyre sizes compared to 195/65R15

205/60R16 652.4mm (2.8% bigger outside diameter compared to 195/65R15)

205/55R17 657.3mm (3.6% bigger outside diameter compared to 195/65R15)

215/45R18 650.7mm (2.6% bigger outside diameter compared to 195/65R15)

195/65R15 634.5mm

 

Outside diameter of standard Kamiq tyre sizes compared to 205/70R15

205/60R16 652.4mm (2.3% smaller outside diameter compared to 205/70R15)

205/55R17 657.3mm (1.6% smaller outside diameter compared to 205/70R15)

215/45R18 650.7mm (2.6% smaller outside diameter compared to 205/70R15)

205/70R15 668.0mm

 

6Jx15 ET35 5/100 57.1 steel rim (for Scala/Kamiq)

https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/2q0601027t03c-steel-rim-skoda-38412.html

 

Here's three examples of 205/70R15 tyres...

 

Uniroyal RainExpert 5 205/70R15 96H (Euro label D A 71dB)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/tyre/Uniroyal/RainExpert-5/205-70-R15-96H-EVc/R-500144

 

Vredestein Quatrac 5 205/70R15 96T (Euro label C C 69dB)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7998p144823/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac5_Vredestein_Quatrac_5_205_70_R15_96T_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_A_Noise%3A_69dB

 

Yokohama Geolandar AT G015 205/70R15 96H (Euro label E C 70dB)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s2481p148166/Yokohama_Tyres_Car_Yokohama_Geolandar_AT_G015_205_70_R15_96H_RPB_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

As you can see in the chart below, a 195/65 can be fitted to a rim width between 5.5" and 7", with 6" being the standard rim width for this tyre size...and hence highlighted in bold. Similarly, a 205/70 can be fitted to a rim width between 5" and 7", with 6" being the standard rim width for this tyre size...and hence highlighted in bold.

 

ETRTO approved rim widths for passenger car tyres

195/65 5.5-6.0-7.0
205/70 5.0-6.0-7.0

 

Edited 21 June, 20241 yr by Carlston

Great!. That's all too much for my simple brain. I'll live with the Skoda listed option. Hopefully it'll never be used👍

 

One Kamiq owner found that a 205/60R16 6Jx16 ET35 spare wheel fits in the spare wheel well of a Kamiq. See the thread linked to below...

 

205/60R16 6Jx16 ET35 fits in Kamiq spare wheel well

 

Shipped Monday from Czech arrived today. Can't fault it. Fit perfectly (as you'd expect of course)

Lovely. 

Room for a Full Size Spare that is the actual Real Full Size as in the 4 that the car come fitted with. 

Room to put in the punctured tyre and wheel in to carry safely, even once repaired if not changed at that point. 

As I started this thread some months ago, thought I'd just confirm the full size matching alloy I got from ebay (which looks like its new) with part worn tread (7mm, so not worn much) is a snug fit in the wheel well, but it does go right in and the boot floor fits flat on the top of it.

 

Jack, wheel brace, nut cover puller etc that I'd bought for my previous Karoq all transferred over, so happy with that.

 

Cheers,

When I bought the car, it was equipped with such a set as shown in the photo 2 posts above, which I am immensely happy about! I don't trust repair kits.

Edited 21 January, 20251 yr by mr_igor

By the way, what pressure should be maintained in such a “dokatka”?

Maintain the spare at a high pressure when stored maybe 60 psi, and if you have to fit the spare then you can let some air out.  Easy to have a tyre pressure gauge in the car even if you have no means of inflating a tyre. 

It turns out you should read the inscriptions on the wheels. Here I found a specific answer to my question. I will follow the manufacturer's recommendations.

Taking into account that the width of the installed wheels and spare parts are the same, we will limit ourselves to a pressure of 2.5 bar.

Phuhhhh. Got it figured out! Thanks for the advice!

There is always a pump or compressor in the car.

Back in the old days when the spacesaver was a new thing it was always a recommendation to use the space saver on the rear only. (for FWD cars)

The thinking was to prevent differential wear on the driven axle. Given what is written above about the difference in diameters then this is probably good advice.

Only applicable to a vehicle that spends its entire life driving in a dead straight line.

 

More valid concerns would be the weight capacity and rolling diameter for the ABS and electronic stability systems, I managed to get an 18% space saver with almost identical rolling diameter to my 16" tyres and also the correct load rating so I can continue a long journey if ever it is needed, it weighs a ton and its not the steel rim but the tyre being as thick and heavy as a forklift truck tyre and about as compliant!