I had CC on my previous DSG Touran and used it all the time, we have Limiter only on our Fabia - I rarely used the limiter. My Karoq has Cruise and Limiter, I find I’m using the limiter in preface to the Cruise. Possibly I’m choosing the best tool for the conditions….. I am finding the Limiter more flexible than Cruise on cross country A and B roads, possibly more economical as it allows Coasting to activate. Whilst I never felt a lack 

of control with Cruise with the Limiter one is always “driving”. 
 

What do others think.

They are completely different things, so I can't see why you would use one in preference to another. Having said that I generally use cruise control, and hardly ever find the need to use speed limiter.

I never use cruise, and have only used the limiter on other cars, (my current Karoq does not have it, only the speed warning setting), on motorways or dual carriageways, set to the posted limit. This is ideal, for me, in 50 limits in roadworks, etc. Perhaps, as I have been driving for 56 years, I have done without for so long, I don’t see the need for cruise control.

@Choclab

 

Understand but you can also set cruise control at the 50 point if going through road works etc. Difference is then no need to keep your foot on the accelerator to maintain the speed.

1 hour ago, sussamb said:

@Choclab

 

Understand but you can also set cruise control at the 50 point if going through road works etc. Difference is then no need to keep your foot on the accelerator to maintain the speed.

 

True, but is this really such a problem? We are driving, after all.... Personally I have not used cruise control for a great many years.

1 hour ago, sussamb said:

@Choclab

 

Understand but you can also set cruise control at the 50 point if going through road works etc. Difference is then no need to keep your foot on the accelerator to maintain the speed.

That’s OK if light traffic, but I always seem to pick busy times, with much stop go traffic, then speed up, slow down, etc. Cruise seems, to me, more for clearer roads. Had cruise in last six cars, and only used on one, for about a month. Still, each to their own.

23 hours ago, Choclab said:

I never use cruise, and have only used the limiter on other cars, (my current Karoq does not have it, only the speed warning setting), on motorways or dual carriageways, set to the posted limit. This is ideal, for me, in 50 limits in roadworks, etc. Perhaps, as I have been driving for 56 years, I have done without for so long, I don’t see the need for cruise control.

Are you sure you don't have it? I think if you have the cruise, you have the limiter too. If you have the cruise settings on your indicator stalk, you should have a button on the bottom of the stalk which toggles between the limiter and cruise.

Edited 2 January, 20251 yr by MrSecretPotato

8 hours ago, MrSecretPotato said:

Are you sure you don't have it? I think if you have the cruise, you have the limiter too. If you have the cruise settings on your indicator stalk, you should have a button on the bottom of the stalk which toggles between the limiter and cruise.

Not on mine. Think you need the fancy “does it all” cruise, but mine is just basic cruise. The only limiter is the bleep warning, that I can set to whatever the local speed limit is. Early 2023 Sportline 1.5 DSG.

22 hours ago, Choclab said:

That’s OK if light traffic, but I always seem to pick busy times, with much stop go traffic, then speed up, slow down, etc. Cruise seems, to me, more for clearer roads. Had cruise in last six cars, and only used on one, for about a month. Still, each to their own.

 

Still isn't an issue even if cruise control is set although generally if traffic  is heavy the speed limit isn't an issue as you're going slowly anyway. I find it makes driving far easier on my old body as I'm not constantly pressing the accelerator.

For some reason, I don’t feel safe with the limiter.  I know it’s unfounded, and I know you can override it, but I still don’t like it.

 

With ACC, in normal use, it’s fine, I use it a lot, but I was caught out once on a motorway when I moved into an off slip road, and caught up with a truck in the inside lane (to my right) and the ACC braked heavily…

55 minutes ago, Baxlin said:

For some reason, I don’t feel safe with the limiter.  I know it’s unfounded, and I know you can override it, but I still don’t like it.

 

With ACC, in normal use, it’s fine, I use it a lot, but I was caught out once on a motorway when I moved into an off slip road, and caught up with a truck in the inside lane (to my right) and the ACC braked heavily…

I would not feel safe with the ACC and would prefer the limiter.  Though normally I use the CC

11 hours ago, chills said:

I would not feel safe with the ACC and would prefer the limiter.  Though normally I use the CC

Yes, I imagine it might be a bit different, with ACC, but only ever had basic CC. I have always used left foot braking, with automatics of any kind, resting my left foot on the provided “footrest”, but never know where to put my right foot, with cruise on. Suppose one relies on the sensors to slow down or brake, with ACC, etc.

Left foot braking can be an issue with a DSG as in only OK as long as only the brake or accelerator should be used and the 2 pedals can not and should not be which can happen if not careful. 

I'd never rely on my car to slow me down, thankfully  I just have standard CC. ACC is only looking at the car immediately in front, I look way further ahead than that. As for slowing/braking i tend to use the stalk control and cancel CC if needed, then hit the resume button when safe to do so, or just use the up/down buttons to adjust the speed.

^^^ Agree with this - or just a quick touch on the brake pedal to disengage CC.

One of our cars has ACC. The other has standard CC.

 

I prefer standard CC over ACC, because ACC makes some crazy decisions and takes crazy action.

 

But, I use cruise A LOT.

 

On every journey, short or long.

 

From low speeds to high speeds.

 

I love it.

 

Probably the most used switches.

 

I never use a Limiter.

 

ps - I love cruise on my bike too, let’s me relax my hands.

On 04/01/2025 at 08:11, Ootohere said:

Left foot braking can be an issue with a DSG as in only OK as long as only the brake or accelerator should be used and the 2 pedals can not and should not be which can happen if not careful. 

I have driven many autos and manuals, and always used left foot braking in autos. Did a track day, many years ago, in a car with sequential racing gears, which did not use clutch, and trained to use left foot for braking, whilst keeping power on with right foot.  Took some getting used to, but always do it now.

I always do left foot braking because i have no right foot.

 

As to the Semi Automatic DSG,s it is fine if you are sure not to brake and accelerate.   Are you saying you are on the brake and on the accelerator. Is this with the Kodiaq?

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Did you trail brake using a DSG on track? 

 Was it a wet clutch or dry clutch DSG.

 

The VW Rally Teams used Golf or Passat,s as reccy cars, cars with DSG,s and they could not Map out at that time so they could use Brake and Accelerator.

 

These days anyone with a DSG should just find a safe road and then use the Accelerator & Brake at the same time, you know what you are doing 

so it is not like someone doing it in error.

 

 

Edited 7 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

I don’t race about on public roads, and only used both pedals at same time on the track car - that is how the instructors said to do it. They were not DSG gearboxes. In normal use, I brake with left foot, reducing throttle pedal with right foot, so ready to move on again.

Just to put in good word for ACC, previously I've had cars with just normal CC and my Karoq is the first with ACC and I wouldn't now buy any car without it.  Sure, it only recognises the car immediately in front + traffic in the iadjacent right hand lane, but I find it overall makes it easier for me to think about traffic further ahead and behind and I now anticipate and take corrective action more than I used to, leading to a smoother driving experience.  I also feel more relaxed at the end of a long journey.

 

Maybe it just suits my particular driving style, but I used to find normal CC  frustrating when not being able to maintain a constant speed in busy motorway traffic situations, with all that annoying brake and throttle footwork + having to switch CC on again.  I admit ACC's not perfect, being slow to recognise a vehicle that suddenly cuts you up in front & too slow to let loose a vehicle in front when you pull out to overtake - so I pull out earlier wherever possible, which is safer anyway.  Overall ACC is a substantial upgrade over CC as far as I'm concerned, but clearly doesn't suit everyone.