Not sure if this is the right place, but I thought as lots of people have issues with them, I'd post some "top tips" from a friend in the know about predicting their whereabouts....

How to spot the cameras

Top Tip as ACPO now demands all cameras to be 'adverstised', fixed or mobile, if you spot a camera sign on the same pole as a speed limit sign (often on a blue or yellow background) there will be a mobile or fixed camera within one kilometer (approx half a mile) from that sign and generally within a few hundred yards. A camera sign on its own means that there will be a mobile or fixed camera within 2 miles of that sign, but not necessarily on the same road you are travelling on.

Chris

but if we all drive like you chris then we wouldnt need to worry about them

We've had a motorbike mounted one around here. The sly fecker has the sign on the inside of his topbox lid. He leaves then lid open when he's working.

but if we all drive like you chris then we wouldnt need to worry about them

Exactly

Chris

they have a couple this way too stu, the latest place (warning to abingdon users) is they park up by peachcroft farm with the bike behind the huge farm sign which has foilege around it so you cannot see him.

They were putting up the speed camera sign at the start of the week, 2 vans and a group of scamera civilians arguing over which way round the sign goes :lol:

Not sure if this is the right place, but I thought as lots of people have issues with them, I'd post some "top tips" from a friend in the know about predicting their whereabouts....

How to spot the cameras

Top Tip as ACPO now demands all cameras to be 'adverstised', fixed or mobile, if you spot a camera sign on the same pole as a speed limit sign (often on a blue or yellow background) there will be a mobile or fixed camera within one kilometer (approx half a mile) from that sign and generally within a few hundred yards. A camera sign on its own means that there will be a mobile or fixed camera within 2 miles of that sign, but not necessarily on the same road you are travelling on.

Chris

This method may not be in use for much longer unfortunately. When the government first decreed that Police Authorities were allowed to keep the revenue generated by speed cameras, their speed camera planting programme went into overdrive. However, they were bound to certain regulations set by the government that cameras must be clearly visible to the motorist, warning signs must be placed by the roadside at agreed intervals in speed camera areas and that locations of mobile and fixed speed cameras must be published on a weekly basis for the general perusal of the public.

In theory it is possible to avoid every single speeding conviction generated by cameras or vans with a bit of research via the internet.

The general public were rightly or wrongly outraged by the fact that their local constabularies were allowed to keep the revenue from speed cameras and took the view that the Police were concentrating on minor motoring offences instead of more serious crime as speeding =

There was a camera van a few weeks back on a a303 towards london way... it was a white van obviously but it had minimal colour or signs, also i think 3 other peple were overtaking me at the time while i was at 80...i breaked but managed to slow down before the meter thingy could get me. but the other 3 cars carried on! they must of thought ah been caught carry on:rolleyes: only a few more days for me to get my full licence and 2 years of driving on the 25th! woo:)

So does Mr Hughes have an explanation as to why cameraless Durham has a better KSI record than his area, despite his theory that cameras are slowing people down at least some of the time?

So does Mr Hughes have an explanation as to why cameraless Durham has a better KSI record than his area, despite his theory that cameras are slowing people down at least some of the time?

FWIW, Durham doesn't have any fixed cameras. They do however have a single camera van which is rotated in various positions around the county. I'm not sure if these locations are well known or even published though so it might well be a case of it could be anywhere so everyone behaves..... who knows

Chris

Speeding back up again after going through a mounted camera is still risk taking. Over here I once saw a mobile camera catching people at the bottom of the hill that had sped up after going through the mounted one further back up the hill.

Omg, did that make sense :confused:

Speeding back up again after going through a mounted camera is still risk taking. Over here I once saw a mobile camera catching people at the bottom of the hill that had sped up after going through the mounted one further back up the hill.

Omg, did that make sense :confused:

I had to read it twice.....but yes it makes sense.... At first I thought "the bottom of a hill that had sped up " ???.

Crafty Feckers or What .........

Bob.

Travelling out from southend-on-sea the other week, on the A127. There was a camera van parked just before the fixed gatso, on the approach to progress road (southend bound side). So the possibility existed that you could get done by the van, and also by the very much live gatso. I guess the scamera van was aiming at the point where the limit drops from NSL to 40.

and ACPO guidelines give you 10%+2mph for trigger speed

See how you do CLICKY

and ACPO guidelines give you 10%+2mph for trigger speed

Thats the problem, they are guidelines. The forces/camera partnership dont have to use those guidelines if they choose not to. The camera could be set to 31 in a 30 and you will get done.

Thats the problem, they are guidelines. The forces/camera partnership dont have to use those guidelines if they choose not to. The camera could be set to 31 in a 30 and you will get done.

This is exactly right and hit the news a few months back when Wilts decided to set their cameras on the M4 at something like 73mph. Suffice to say there were a lot of unhappy motorists

Chris

I've driven 607 miles since thursday, and seen ONE traffic policeman, and millions of cameras, and enough bad driving to frighten the life out of me! (and illegal cars/drivers/behavior ect, most frightning the number of people willing to cross solid white lines!!!!)

hhmmm. the goverments FAILED speed camera policy. the roads are getting worse,the driving worse, the offences more, the traffic police less, the cameras increasing.... we're all heading for hell every time we wanna go for a drive :(

*sharky notes he's in rant mode today....

This is exactly right and hit the news a few months back when Wilts decided to set their cameras on the M4 at something like 73mph. Suffice to say there were a lot of unhappy motorists

Chris

And do you have any evidence of this???

On another note there is spec average speed camera by Reading on M4 with 50mph limit, so many people slowing down for the camera then speeding up again guess the word average didnt enter their volcabulary

... there is spec average speed camera by Reading on M4 with 50mph limit, so many people slowing down for the camera then speeding up again guess the word average didnt enter their volcabulary

This happens a lot on the A2 in Kent from Junction 1 of the M2 through to Gravesend... there's me trundling along & I see heavy braking, then crawling along, then hard acceleration. I kinda feel sorry for them, then realise they deserve what they get because they didn't read the signs...

Still can't stand bloody cameras though, especially SPECS through roadworks which the government has admitted INCREASE the chances of an accident... Yet they're still used. Nice.

:iagree: - SPECS was installed on one road in Scotland following a particularly bad year for road deaths (given project planning, I think this was coincidence, not knee-jerk). The next year's regression to mean trend was claimed as a success for SPECS! IMO it's more of a comment on the lack of statistical knowledge in the meedja, political, Police service and wider population.