Just been flicking through options for a FMIC for my vRS. Obvious choices were forge, or pro-alloy....but 700 quid.....reasonable price to pay?

whereas thought id try my chances on the bay of E and found this

http://http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180183058559

Opinions would be appreciated

Already emailed the company and they say wil fit straight on, no mods needed (personally im thinking crash bar mods maybe needed for hard piping?)

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Looks like quite a kit but I wouldn't be sure all of the pipes would fit and there is deffo crash bar modding for the Forge unit.

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Looks like quite a kit but I wouldn't be sure all of the pipes would fit and there is deffo crash bar modding for the Forge unit.

I knew one of them comes woth a modified crashbar. My mate runs a garage in Bristol, (FCM, Netham Rd.........cheeky little plug), and apparently he can make up a FMIC for me. Just gonna wiat for costs etc. But its just that bloody crash bar i think is gonna cause issues

That looks tiny, wouldn't even bother mate!

that does look quite small, off the top of my head the jabba one i have (proalloy) is about 450x300x80 i think, i'll go measure it in a bit.

That looks tiny, wouldn't even bother mate!

which one you running? and how would performance be aided runnin the standard K03 with a FMIC (induction and zorst are shortly coming, along with remap)

which one you running? and how would performance be aided runnin the standard K03 with a FMIC (induction and zorst are shortly coming, along with remap)

Your not going to get much/if any gains with a FMIC.

It will help you hold boost for longer on a hotter day as the intake temps will stay lower.

Thanks guys

As sad as i'll sound, im wanting more of the turbo whistle/spool up sound, and was told that a FMIC helps a lot, but tbh price wise, and performance wise, think i'll stick to a Carbonio intake, and (still debating on make) turbo back zorst.........and remap of course

Your not going to get much/if any gains with a FMIC.

It will help you hold boost for longer on a hotter day as the intake temps will stay lower.

If you ever go the Nurburgring (or a track day) on a hot day with a remapped turbo car FMIC's are essential else all power disapears half way around the lap. A remaper will also be able to map the engine more aggresively with one fitted. I've got the pro-alloy unit designed by Jabba sport and it's certainly bigger than the ebay item and inlet and outlet pipes are on the same side for shorter pipe runs. The most important thing with an intercooler is the design internally such as the alloy fingers which effect efficiency of the cooling and flow rates. My advice, get a decent one! You get what you pay for.

IMO that core is too small to make an appreciable improvement. For the size, the std SMIC core is quite efficient, a "cheap" FMIC core won't be, so you may well find that the bit of additional size is offset by the reduction in efficiency.

There is no shortage of space in the front of the Octy, so may as well make use of it if you're going to the trouble of FMIC.

Having said that, the std SMIC is marginally sufficient on a standard car if the ambient temperature isn't very high, after a simple remap to 1.5bar boost or whatever, it is totally inadequate even in cool temperatures (mine sees >60degC inlet temperatures after about 30seconds of full-load WOT running in the current climate), so the benefit of a bigger (more efficient) intercooler is clear. But bear in mind that bigger isn't automatically better - conversely nor is expensive - you need to do your homework and appreciate the various areas that have an effect.

Im tight so Id be looking at OE ones on ebay in the hope I could find one without selling a kidney.

for the shortest and most efficient route a fmic with the inlet and outlet on opposite sides is best and fit the 225 inlet manifold is it is right handed not left, with an IC with the inlet and outlet on the same sides means the air has to do a complete u turn and therefore is much more restrictive than changing both the manifold and the IC.

you could get a cheap straight IC and spend the rest on the inlet manifold and pipes for the most efficient inlet path

Sorry if this is a bit off topic......

My SMIC is working quite well, so much so that half way through a custom remap Nick from Jabba came and asked me what had been done (high praise IMHO).

And the answere is;

Reduce the inlet temperatures to the SMIC by better protecting the turbo outlet pipework from heat soak. (Skoda have done a real cr*p job of it).

And increase the cooling air flow into the SMIC by approx 15%. (not the wheel arch mod).

You have the SMIC with 247bhp?

Do you have any pictures of what youve done?

Cheers.

cheers for the info guys

i spoke to a mate of mine who runs a garage/workshop, and luckily he has an account with forge, so probably get the forge FMIC. nd whilst shopping with them, either the splitter DV or the 007p. see wat takes my chavtastic pleasure

will do pics etc when done

your car doesn't have 247bhp.

Hmm, not sure what happened there, I replied to this thread ags ago but it hasn't posted it!?

What have you done to your SMIC then to improve it's efficency?

your car doesn't have 247bhp.

Bengie, its a Jabba 247 BHP, perhaps different on another RR ??????

Also, for a remapped Octy vRS with a KO3s, you will have to look hard to beat the ABD Racing FMIC.

your car doesn't have 247bhp.

WTF do you know about my car and what has been done to it

I'll tell you what my car does have....it has enough power to be more than a match for my brothers 53 plate WRX which, with a Prodrive upgrade has been dyno tested at 260 bhp

Oh.... wait .... I just realised, I Well Lane Turbo's dyno must be wrong as well

What have you done to improve your SMIC!?

fair enough then vrs180, what mods have you done to get your 247bhp? what turbo and manifold are you running?

the K03s cannot flow enough air efficiently enough to get a reliable and accurate 247bhp.

i live quite close to owen developements(its not like they know much about turbo'd cars what with them making the turbo's and mapping WRC cars for the likes of FORD etc) and when i first got my octavia i called them and asked what they could do with my car as others have claimed to get 230+ out of them and they said there and then that 220bhp was about the most they can safely make and after going to a few RR days(at least 3 i can think of) the most powerful octavia vRS running the standard turbo i have seen is Gerry's(Berreta) and his gets around 217bhp on an accurate dyno where as mine for example with its jabba map, blueflame exhaust, proalloy fmic, samco pipes, samco tip etc has never made anymore than about 205bhp on anyones dyno but jabba's(where it read 226bhp and 256lbft).

so to clear the air tell us what mods you have my friend

and you can keep up with a WRX with PPP easy? sorry but i somply don't believe that going on my own personal experience. me and another member that at the time had a FWD 1.8T elegance raced a standard WRX on an airfield, both mapped but mine with the above mods and he gently pulled away form me in every gear after 2nd and everyone envolved was driving there cars 100% as it was on a closed airfield.

fair enough then vrs180, what mods have you done to get your 247bhp? what turbo and manifold are you running?

the K03s cannot flow enough air efficiently enough to get a reliable and accurate 247bhp.

i live quite close to owen developements(its not like they know much about turbo'd cars what with them making the turbo's and mapping WRC cars for the likes of FORD etc) and when i first got my octavia i called them and asked what they could do with my car as others have claimed to get 230+ out of them and they said there and then that 220bhp was about the most they can safely make and after going to a few RR days(at least 3 i can think of) the most powerful octavia vRS running the standard turbo i have seen is Gerry's(Berreta) and his gets around 217bhp on an accurate dyno where as mine for example with its jabba map, blueflame exhaust, proalloy fmic, samco pipes, samco tip etc has never made anymore than about 205bhp on anyones dyno but jabba's(where it read 226bhp and 256lbft).

so to clear the air tell us what mods you have my friend

He has a Fu tree air freshener. :P

Fu tree? What the...

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fair enough then vrs180, what mods have you done to get your 247bhp? what turbo and manifold are you running?

the K03s cannot flow enough air efficiently enough to get a reliable and accurate 247bhp.

i live quite close to owen developements(its not like they know much about turbo'd cars what with them making the turbo's and mapping WRC cars for the likes of FORD etc) and when i first got my octavia i called them and asked what they could do with my car as others have claimed to get 230+ out of them and they said there and then that 220bhp was about the most they can safely make and after going to a few RR days(at least 3 i can think of) the most powerful octavia vRS running the standard turbo i have seen is Gerry's(Berreta) and his gets around 217bhp on an accurate dyno where as mine for example with its jabba map, blueflame exhaust, proalloy fmic, samco pipes, samco tip etc has never made anymore than about 205bhp on anyones dyno but jabba's(where it read 226bhp and 256lbft).

so to clear the air tell us what mods you have my friend

I have to agree with Bengie on this one and also ask what mods have been done to get 247bhp on a KO3s, as mine with mods and a KO3s has run as below.

On good rollers such as Marlin mine has run 238bhp and recently ran 221bhp at 5100revs, again at Marlins, before it misfired and the sensors pulled the timing back.

It has also run 233bhp at Power Engineering and Surrey RR, and 217bhp at JKM with a boost leak, so I know what it usually runs, and it never gets to 247bhp.

There is a report on here somewhere of the RR day at Marlins when I ran 238bhp and all the Jabba mapped cars failed to get anywhere near that, despite all having RR graphs from Jabba to show a higher figure.

Whilst it may well be that on "SOME" rollers yours does show 247bhp, it would be interesting to see graphs from several different RR's for comparison, for as we all know they are a lottery.

Just recently we have seen a lot high bhp claims for the Mk1 Octy vRS that are just not possible, where people say they have not been on a RR, but it feels like it must be doing the bhp they claim because they raced this that or the other and either kept up with it, or beat it, hence Bengie, myself and others being dubious of certain claims.

Oh, and these figures are with an ABD Racing FMIC. Fits right behind the centre grill.

No real need for the finger and WTF though is there??????