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Maps in general ? There potential for good and bad results , reviews of customers services and similar, always check if doing the right thing before purchasing any service or product

Edited 26 March, 201313 yr by seboni121

Maps in general ? There potential for good and bad results , reviews of customers services and similar, always check if doing the right thing before purchasing any service or product

Needle in haystack, Seb - what do you have against the above reviews, which are directly on topic?

Did a small search and found issues regarding maps and customer services, did this because I'm interested I'm acquiring such a map, potential issues too turbo and clutches , however couldn't plaster on here could I ?

If you are referring to us (I guess you are) then yes, I think there's one bad review of us that you might find on Google. All was explained on Briskoda about that particular case but of course the one bad review you'll find on Google will always outweigh all the great ones we get.

If you have time the response is viewable in our forum on Briskoda should you wish to read it. I believe many here have.

If you are referring to us (I guess you are) then yes, I think there's one bad review of us that you might find on Google. All was explained on Briskoda about that particular case but of course the one bad review you'll find on Google will always outweigh all the great ones we get.

If you have time the response is viewable in our forum on Briskoda should you wish to read it. I believe many here have.

Ben not being specific but just wary I guess , I will follow thread closely

Did a small search and found issues regarding maps and customer services, did this because I'm interested I'm acquiring such a map, potential issues too turbo and clutches , however couldn't plaster on here could I ?

I can say in my experience Shark performance have good Customer Service, And look out for the best interest in your car.

I can say in my experience Shark performance have good Customer Service, And look out for the best interest in your car.

Very good

Ben not being specific but just wary I guess , I will follow thread closely

Understandable, and thanks for being honest.

Understandable, and thanks for being honest.

Honesty is the policy

Well, I only counted (one thousand, two thousand etc), but my 105 CR gets to an indicated 60 MUCH quicker than 10 seconds.

I don't find it rolls, it only has problems stopping from higher speeds on crappy roads, so I don't go at higher speeds on crappy roads...

The rear drums have surface corrosion, if I had the time, I would scrub it off and coat them with something, but the dealer said at service time, it wasn't anything to worry about.

They offered me approx £10k px for my 6 month old under 10k on the clock. I may have to sell soon, as my wife may not be keeping her job [:-( - we'll lose the Golf Bluemotion like Seboni's too]. SO, it's now 9 months old and has 11k on the clock...make me an offer! ;-)

Oh and if I were keeping it, as per the plan when I bought it, I would definitely give it the map - the extra bhp would be handy.

Also, IIRC, hasn't it got the same torque output as the vRS? That's got to count for something!

dont just look at peak torque. peak figures dont mean anything. Its the amount of area below the power/torque curves which equate to a faster car, that area is what matters and petrol engine has that torque over a MUCH wider power band thus has a much higher area below th curve as a result

Your re-mapped 75PS Monte sounds like a good choice! I am glad you are enjoying it

You mentioned brakes. I find brakes on my vRS rather "peculiar". I am not sure why really. Could some electronics or air in the lines...

When I press the brake pedal "initially" brakes feel "spongy" and the peroformance is rather wanting. I changess massively when I tap the brake and then brake "properly". Then the response is very sharp and performance very good... vRS being slightly heavier (1243kg kerb compared to 1128kg kerb of 1.6TDi) I'd expect to find the brakes on the remapped TDi potentially unstasfactory. We would need to drive each other cars to really tell the difference If you come to Bedford Autodrome for the "How Fast" track day on top of taking your new motor thorugh her paces we could also compare hte notes:).

I looked at the ETKA (my russian is still good enough it turns out ) and found springs to have exactly the same part numbers bar last letter, which seems to be linked with the year designation as well and damper to have only one part number. I am not an expert at reading ETKA part numbers so I stand to be corrected.

dont just look at peak torque. peak figures dont mean anything. Its the amount of area below the power/torque curves which equate to a faster car, that area is what matters and petrol engine has that torque over a MUCH wider power band thus has a much higher area below th curve as a result

This is the beauty of having a supercharger on such a small engine delivering tourque very low down and then having a larger turbo servicing higher revs. I personally noticed the biggest shove stating from around just below 5k rpm. To reinforce Sy's point, when you look at your dyno plot, the area between torque curve and power curve decides on driver perceptible acceleration. BTW, would you mind posting your dyno plot?

I don't think a diesel will get near 5k revs , bearing in mind this thread is about remapping the 1.6 CR diesel

I don't think a diesel will get near 5k revs , bearing in mind this thread is about remapping the 1.6 CR diesel

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I only mentioned vRS as the OP mentioned it as well. Mind you it was probably the diesel vRS of old

I only mentioned vRS as the OP mentioned it as well. Mind you it was probably the diesel vRS of old

That would be the case, as the map on the CR 1.6 produces the same power as a standard Mk1 vRS

All I know is, is the CR feels quicker than the official figures, with 105 bhp.

It sometimes feels like it could do with more shove, but I often wonder how much quicker the vRS would really be - I mean an extra 80 bhp is either mental and all vRS owners must drive around scared witless,

OR

the peak power/torque etc are good, but the mid range (where you tend to keep the diesel, but not petrol) are comparable?

Then the difference to 60mph would be massive, but in normal driving, the CR might feel as "real world" fast, because it's in the band. And being a CR, the band isn't old-tech diesel - i.e. about 500rpm wide.

As I haven't driven a vRS yet, it's a bit of a mystery to me. Or maybe I'm massively deluded - I just can't see a vRS being hugely faster, because wouldn't your faces just slide off your skulls? And wouldn't everyone drive them?

Theres the extra 115kg odd to contend with too - no doubt the vRS would be quicker off the line and spank the Monte around the twisty stuff (maybe, but same chassis?), but how far ahead would it be A to B? Anyone tried it out?

Do you want us to say your car is as fast as a vrs? Would that make you feel better lol.

Just because you have another 75PS doesn't mean you need to use it all the time...

In lower gears (3rd/4th), you just have an almost constant pull from just above idle to 7000rpm, so almost 6000rpm rev range, Obviously, its quicker to drop a cog or 2 if in the higher gears but to rev out in 3rd breaks most speed limits as it is..you just get there very quickly!

I think this thread has got a bit rofl in places!

I'm sure the 75bhp is now quick with a remap but it's hardly going to blow cars out of the water.

Comparable to a mk1 vrs yes, mk2 no. Chalk and cheese cars.

A mapped mk1 vrs can keep with a stock mk2 vrs according to threads in the mk1 section, read into it what you will as different drivers can achieve different things.

Best thing to do is to hand your car and my car to the stig and see which is faster round the track - sound fair?

Edited 26 March, 201313 yr by Ad Lav

When I first got I got me scared witless when I decided to stick with the pan and red line

Then, like with any other drug, you get used to it and want more

I do not think it is hugely faster. The biggest factor on hard acceleration is gear changespeed and only 8ms of no power beween gear changes - F1 cars now manage 5ms without power and Ferrari Fx 150ms (or was it Enzo?). To avoid breaking forum rules there is only one motor I met faster than me (my baby is factory vanilla) but forthe money spent on mods to that car I'd buy another vRS

I tend to say DSG in vRS is worth another 20 bhp all other things being equal.

If you are wondering about track times as impossible to gauge on public roads I am curious as well - I will know on 1st June at Bedford Autodrome after "How Fast " track day

A mapped mk1 vrs can keep with a stock mk2 vrs according to threads in the mk1 section, read into it what you will as different drivers can achieve different things.

^^That^^

Do you want us to say your car is as fast as a vrs? Would that make you feel better lol.

^^^That^^^

Unfortunately yes, as the 75bhp is a detuned version of the 105bhp the gains are much bigger on the 75, then again an almost one third increase is not to be sniffed, and it gives you standard Mk1 Fabia vRS power in a Mk2 body - I'll take that

I think the above is self-explanatory

"standard Mk1 Fabia vRS power in a Mk2 body"