vRS TDi occasionaly slow to fire up.

[Mence]

Morning chaps.

Apologies if this has been covered off recently, I did have a quick nose round.

Ok, some while back, a thread covering the issue of the vRS Tdi not always starting up that swiftly was started by someone and I added to it saying I experienced the same.

For example, mine has KESSY not that it really matters so I jump in, press the button and almost instantly she fires up. Sometimes this is not the case, it can take as much as seven or eight seconds before she fires. She always starts but sometimes it takes longer than I think it should.

For reference, the symptoms are not weather dependent or different should the engine be hot or cold. The issue started about 18 months / 16k from new.

Anyway, I mentioned it to my trusty dealer back in November when it went in for its annual service, on delivery back to me, they said they weren't aware of an issue and couldn't get the car to repeat the problem for them which is hardly surprising as its so random.

So, yesterday it went in for its 2 yearly air con service, the guy collected it as usual and I went out with SWMBO for the morning. I received a call from the service department a short time later asking if I still experienced the issue from time to time to which I replied I did, he very cheerfully announced that there is now a service bulletin out for this issue which requires a 15 minute software tweak to sort.

So, if like me, you have this issue, go see the dealer, they should now be aware of it and able to sort it under warranty.

The service guy said it affected the vRS TDi in particular so my assumption is that it will also apply to the Scout with the 184ps engine.

That's it, ramble over, hope some will find useful, I'm off to work and as usual, the drive in will be as much fun in the Octy as it always has been.

[TDIum]

Thanks for that! I get the same thing, glad I can now get it sorted.

[Mence]

Just driven into work and she appears to be running a touch smoother as well.

[meb90]

Interesting. Mine doesn't have KESSY, but it does sometimes take a little longer than usual to start. Never 8 seconds mind.

 

I'll see if I can get the update applied at service time

 

Thanks Mence

[Gabbo]

Good to know its a software/calibration improvement & not an injector issue which could be costly out of warranty!

[jbyrnes82]

i have had this on occasion too where it turns over for some seconds before firing, usual enough time for me and the wife to look at each other with that look of 'is it going to start?'

 

having recently had a service I shall mention it next time I go in and see what the service dept. have to say.

[DravenSteel]

Interesting. Mine does this too but it's not a vRS... Standard 2.0 TDi 150

[MoggyTech]

Useful to know thanks for sharing.

[JamesVRSmk3]

Ah good - Can't wait to go back to the dealers and tell them this. Even after showing them videos of my car taking 10 seconds to start he said it was "normal for diesels in cold weather".

 

Is it just a service bulletin? Want to be armed with facts as they always put up a fight. The customer is always wrong at my dealership 

Edited 8 April, 2016 by JamesVRSmk3

[FnkyMnky]

It's not peculiar to the Vrs and/or the 2litre.

My 1.6TDI  Elegance does the same, usually starts on the 2nd crank but occasionally it might take 6 or 8.

Doesn't bother me much but as it's having a service on Monday I'll mention it.

[Mence]

Ah good - Can't wait to go back to the dealers and tell them this. Even after showing them videos of my car taking 10 seconds to start he said it was "normal for diesels in cold weather".

 

Is it just a service bulletin? Want to be armed with facts as they always put up a fight. The customer is always wrong at my dealership 

It was suggested to me that it was nust a service bulletin, no need for an interim recall. I must admit i am pretty fortunate with my dealer, very proactive and happy to help.

[JamesVRSmk3]

Will get onto them shortly. I'm convinced that's what killed my battery as at one point twice a day it would take 10 seconds to fire up - leaving for work and returning home.

[Mence]

When the dealer contacted me he asked me two questions. 1. Has the car been remapped and 2. Have i ever had any issues with the battery leading me to believe that point 2 may hint at an altogether different issue...

[pipsyp]

My 150 TDI has always done this. My 65 plate GTD also now occassionally is hesitant to start.

Interesting to know it can likely be sorted out, that said I probably wont keep the Octavia long enough for it to go in for servicing again so probably wont bother. Both cars run perfectly well and dont ever not start.

[SJFISHER67]

Mine doesn't have KESSY, but sometimes does this, still after a recent 'update'. Done it a couple of times since, once it started and then cut out, no fault left then either!

[Gallo]

Mine also does the delay start, but only started to do it over time. My concern though is what might be causing it? And why would a software update fix it when the car didn't to it to begin and developed over time.

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[Gallo]

Any ideas on previous post? I'm in two minds to get the dealership to do mine.

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[Mence]

No idea buddy, maybe a chat with the dealer to see if the service bulletin can shed any more light on some specifics for you?

At the end of the day, it's not compulsory, I purely posted to make people aware.

Mine is starting up just fine but to be honest, it does most of the time anyway but clearly enough of an issue aired by enough owners to warrant Skoda taking it seriously and making an effort to sort it out.

[Gallo]

Thanks for the reply Mence, I think I will leave it till the next service and see how it goes over the summer. I'm glad you posted the info because I thought it was down to the battery. But what you have said matches what mines been doing. I will ask the dealership to find out what the update actually changes because I can't see why and issue of this sort which was not there before can be fixed via a software update.

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[Mence]

Not wishing to thread bump, more to tie this off.

It's been just over a month now and she is starting perfectly every time. I would normally have expected it to misbehaved a handful of times over that sort of time period so I assume all is sorted.

[Lew0-VRS]

Thanks for this noticed mine was like this first week I had it. Normal key feels at times it's not going to fire up. But it's been fine the past week, so thought it was just me.

[Rockey]

Very interesting I have a 1.6tdi and it does the same .I read this post a few weeks ago and thought I would let my dealer know that there was a service bulletin regarding the issue .He told me they would check the car out they put it on the computer and said there was nothing wrong .I then phoned Skoda customer service explained the problem he said I should pay no attention to forums and there was no issue with the cars .I then went on to the web site Skoda Ireland they took my reg number and chassis number and told me there was nothing wrong with the car it had all the present updates and it was ok .So my main question is does anybody know the service bulletin number or title Thanks in advance

[aki78]

.. they put it on the computer and said there was nothing wrong ...

My (2.0 TDI) also does this slow fire up thing.

Nothing to check with diagnostics, this does not generate fault codes...(I have VCDS).

[Lew0-VRS]

I've put it down to at times not fully pressing clutch to the floor.

[aki78]

I have only 2 pedals.

Edited 26 May, 2016 by aki78