As I have said before, just don't read them if they wind you up, I don't.

It's taken me a while to get to grips with this and my CodSh1te filter [TM] is quite effective. So effective in fact it tends to be filtering a lot of threads lately :(

I hate attention seeking posts. Just go

I hate attention seeking posts. Just go

Plain speaking. Plain sense.

I hate attention seeking posts. Just go

and the main course of accidents is speed...

No it is not - not at all. The main cause of accidents is when something happens beyond one or more person's control - hence it being an accident. The main cause of car crashes on the other hand is a driver driving beyond his/her ability or beyond the capability of the car. Speed merely contributes to the end result of that crash.

If I was for instance to drive at 120 mph down a country lane, and I ended up dead in a field because I hit a corner too fast - was it the speed that caused the crash? No, it was driver error. At a lesser speed you may say the crash would not have been fatal. At a lesser speed the crash would not have happened. The driver determines how fast the car goes. Therefore the driver is the cause of most accidents, not speed

BTW - I'm no Stig, but I do enjoy my enhanced Vrs to it's full potential as often as possible - as I have done with every reasonable car I have owned in the last 20 years. I have never taken an advanced driving course as they don't offer anything to my driving enjoyment - and I have never ever crashed a car. Luck, fate, good Karma - whatever, but given the way I drive to gain my enjoyment and the speed involved, the arguements given by some members about speeding being the killer holds no water whatsoever as far as I am concerned. Driving beyond your own ability, or at speeds you don't feel comfortable at kills you. Driving in a poorly maintained vehicle kills you. Driving too fast for the conditions kills you. Being unfit to drive by drink, drugs - or worse tiredness kills you.

Speed like I said is just a contributary factor to the damage and injuries at the end.

To the person who claims cheap tyres will save you - :rofl: - what on earth are you doing on a car enthusiast's forum?

The time you need your tyres most is when you will realise that hedgeseekers were the wrong choice. You know, when you hit the brakes in the rain as the little child stares at you from the middle of the road. Screech - bang - dead kiddy. The amount of tyre in contact with the road surface at any one time on your average car is about that of an A4 sheet of paper. That tiny area has to work very hard indeed to stop you quickly, or to disperse water at 70 on the motorway.....you know, bit of a flash flood, you can't see the standing water - sudden loss of control - spin/bang/spin/bang - dead. Your money mate - if saving a few quid a tyre makes you happy, good for you.

Oh bugger that's twice I've agreed with Dave in one day.

Very well said mate.

Oh bugger that's twice I've agreed with Dave in one day.

Very well said mate.

I'm in a bad mood, so I'm venting it on here. It's the only time I seem to make any sense

No it is not - not at all. The main cause of accidents is when something happens beyond one or more person's control

so you saying you can have accidents with 2 stationary objects my point is the fact that two stationary objects cannot have accidents/crash or collide no matter if its you driving or the stig. one or more of the objects need to have some momentuim in order for it to collide either as you put it "somethings happend beyond one or more persons control".

But Im open to see you demonstrate how two stationary objects can crash into each other;)

so you saying you can have accidents with 2 stationary objects my point is the fact that two stationary objects cannot have accidents/crash or collide no matter if its you driving or the stig. one or more of the objects need to have some momentuim in order for it to collide either as you put it "somethings happend beyond one or more persons control".

But Im open to see you demonstrate how two stationary objects can crash into each other;)

But what you said was the main course (by which I assume you mean cause) of accidents is speed.

Which it is not.

so you saying you can have accidents with 2 stationary objects my point is the fact that two stationary objects cannot have accidents/crash or collide no matter if its you driving or the stig. one or more of the objects need to have some momentuim in order for it to collide either as you put it "somethings happend beyond one or more persons control".

But Im open to see you demonstrate how two stationary objects can crash into each other;)

As Rob has pointed out, I was responding to your generalised and brainwashed notion that speed causes the majority of accidents.

Shame you chose to bring up a point you have already made and used it as a feeble argument to what I have said. Two stationary object's impossibly colliding is not something I have ever thought about and quite honestly with it being so totally irrelavent - I am not about to start now

and the main course of accidents is speed... so the simplest soloution dont travel and then that will make you stationary and stationary objects cannot collide with other stationary objects... only moving objects can collide and to move you need speed or we go back to the start of this paragraph and go through it all again

Chaps, this is clearly a tongue in cheek comment about speed causing accidents

Good point.

so you saying you can have accidents with 2 stationary objects

Thats possibly the most pointless and ridiculous argument I've ever seen. The 'speed' in question was assumed to be that above the speed limit, and the point being made is that you don't have to be exceeding said speed limit to have a crash.

But if you want to be awkward, you could have a pretty nasty injury if someone planted a stationary bomb in your stationary car and you got in and it went off, while stationary. :confused:

Speed is NOT the main cause of accidents.

Inappropriate speed IS.

Well, I have had a sense of humour bypass for the evening - which is stationary - and that seems to have collided with smstext's actual sense of humour - another stationary object. Sorted. Who needs braniacs......

Quantum physics next anyone?

Ah yes, where were we - time doesn't exist!!

Thats possibly the most pointless and ridiculous argument I've ever seen.

That's what the internet is for!!

That's what the internet is for!!

Lol!!

Yeah, but it's no fun unless people put some effort in!!!

I want to mod my vRS to 220bhp because i want to overtake safey, and i like acceleration, dont give to hoots about doing a tonne 20 down the backroads.

Ive crashed before, and been at nasty crashes and would tell anyone to take it steady when modding, especally when it comes to tyres... a tyre that grips more will loose traction suddenly, where as budget tyres... you can feel the slip gradually.

Always buy budget. And know your limit (go to a track and find out in your own car).

Hope that atleast one person reads this and takes action and saves there car, and more importantly, a life.

Dave

So I should do 120mph down a back road on ****e tyres?

Erm no thanks, I'll stick to good quality, grippy tyres that let go predictably. Ditch finders don't do that, they just slip or send you off when you most need some grip.

Of course, if you drive the car correctly, you shouldn't really be getting to a point where the tyre needs so much grip it's lets go as you can still go very fast without putting such requirements on the tyres.

Edited 28 July, 200817 yr by cheezemonkhai

Ah yes, where were we - time doesn't exist!!

Who are you? Who are any of us?

Etc

Who are you? Who are any of us?

Etc

And would the plane take off?

And would the plane take off?

No.

Did you know that the visible universe (the bit that we can see, not including all the rest) is a million million million million miles across?

Thats **** all!

Did you know that the number of stars in the visible universe = 30 billion trillion (3x10²²). Count 'em

The solar system is so vast that it is impossible to darw a scale diagram on paper. Even if the Earth was reduced to the size of a pea, Jupiter would be over 300 metres away and Pluto would be 2 and a half kilometres away and the size of a bacterium, so wouldn't even be able to see it! On the same scale, our nearest star, Proxima Centauri would be 16,000 kilometres away!!