Hope mine wont need that much oil put in it... I never check it for one and wouldnt even know what oil you put in it anyway! *asks father*

My car keeps nagging me - yours will if you've gone for Maxidot

Mines done 2K miles now and hasn't used a drop by the looks of it. Took it very easy on the revs over the first 1000 then let them build up over the next 400 or so till I was red lining at about 1400 miles. Never give it any stick until the oil tamp is above 75 which dose take quite a while a lot longer than the water temp.

So its done around 600 miles of "normal" driving i'll see how the oil usage gose from here. But for me it looks good.

I really would like to know how it was treated in the first 3K before I had it.

If this keeps up then we're talking £25 a month in oil.

Not acceptable.

Up to 4L of oil used in 2200 miles now.

Went for a more "spirited" drive yesterday (motorway mainly) but I'm not sure if that is my problem?

Either way will be ringing the dealer to seek advice tomorrow.

I really would like to know how it was treated in the first 3K before I had it.

If this keeps up then we're talking £25 a month in oil.

Not acceptable.

I would definatley seek dealer to look at it as a problem, quote what people have said on here! in first 10,000 miles I used 3 liters, since the service, I've done 2200 miles, and it hasn't used any more yet...

Not sure if it is worth mentioning...

But am using Mobil 1 5w/30 (I think) 502.00 spec oil.

Anyone used this?

Not sure if it is worth mentioning...

But am using Mobil 1 5w/30 (I think) 502.00 spec oil.

Anyone used this?

I've used castrol edge, but what you are using is fine.

Just to say:

I went to Silverstone recently at 4:00am on A roads doing motorway speeds for 100 miles. All together there and back, it was 230 miles. Most of it above 70mph.

Oil temp was 92^oC to 94^oC whilst driving. Measured it by the time I came back, and it had used roughly 200ml in that time.

Sounds somehwhat obvious, but it's definitely temperature related and not a leak somewhere.

Another thing I've noticed is that my engine bay when I come back was long journeys is extremely hot. So much so, when I left the bonnet 20-30mins after a blast of heat usually hits me. Usually need to wait 1h 30mins before I can safely go in the engine bay.

People's opinions or similar experiences would be appreciated.

Just to say:

I went to Silverstone recently at 4:00am on A roads doing motorway speeds for 100 miles. All together there and back, it was 230 miles. Most of it above 70mph.

Oil temp was 92^oC to 94^oC whilst driving. Measured it by the time I came back, and it had used roughly 200ml in that time.

Sounds somehwhat obvious, but it's definitely temperature related and not a leak somewhere.

Another thing I've noticed is that my engine bay when I come back was long journeys is extremely hot. So much so, when I left the bonnet 20-30mins after a blast of heat usually hits me. Usually need to wait 1h 30mins before I can safely go in the engine bay.

People's opinions or similar experiences would be appreciated.

never noticed it get that hot actually, although I have had my oil temp over 100

Same as Sharkrider here I've seen over 100 when giving it the beens to get past a few people in a row.

It seams to pick up temprature the whole time its on boost.

my normal driving temprature is 88-93 ish it tends to be stable around 89-90 on the motorway

Yeah, this is looking familiar.

It only generally asks after I've been out for a long ride at a time - I.e. I went up my Dad's yesterday and he lives 40 miles away.

I took the "long way" home and had a wee bit of fun.

This could be embarrassing if the implication I'm picking up on is correct............

I think we could narrow down what's causing it if we polled people who are having oil usage problems we a few questions. Daily journey time, type of oil, speeds throughout journey, oil temp at end of journey etc.

We need to work out how many people are having excessive oil usage and how they are driving. Could well be that long journeys driven fast could make it burn more oil. I've planned a route for when I get mine and it's well over 160miles round trip. I'll make sure I'll take oil with me

Make an official poll guys.

All this from the VAG group... so much for fine german engineering.

The alfa Mito i had which was a 1.4tb 155bhp Veloce and remapped to 187bhp, used only 500ml of oil in 3000miles of abuse i gave it! and i drove that car HARD!

I also have a car fanatic friend who has a Corsa VXR(1.6 turbo 180-190bhp)and after 8,000miles of lunatic driving(i NEVER get in the car with him) he was saying how his has only used 300-400ml of oil.

both cars above where 0 miles new cars too

So it begs the question. What is VAG doing to their small displacement high output engines that make them drink oil if other manurfacturers can produce reliable engines of similar design that do not??

First off, I think you need a bigger sample of Alfa and Vauxhall owners, before you call either of them 'reliable', or even any better than a VAG group vehicle...

And as others mention in this thread, their oil usage is vastly different, and smaller, than the OP mentions here. Which will hopefully point to an isolated case.

I've had cars before that drank oil (looking at you 1.9PD 130...) but that ceased after 40k and I usually bought 5L every 20k.

I think 4L in 2K is excessive though. I can only think it's my driving style but surely a car wouldn't use that much. It isn't like I'm a perman-Schumacher behind the wheel...

First off, I think you need a bigger sample of Alfa and Vauxhall owners, before you call either of them 'reliable', or even any better than a VAG group vehicle...

And as others mention in this thread, their oil usage is vastly different, and smaller, than the OP mentions here. Which will hopefully point to an isolated case.

Exactly. Plus one of the main reasons I didn't go for a Corsa VXR was because Piston 4 seems to be made out of chocolate. Loads have gone wrong.

Hoping it's just a few burning lots of oil. I expect it to use a bit, after all how many engines on the road turbocharge and supercharge? Think a lot of it is to do with initial running in. If you take it easy it burns more and if it's driven like a vRS from day one once it's all warm then they burn a little. Maybe the engine could be cooled better since some of you are saying it uses more on long runs.

My point was that i think Vag products aren't over-engineered and understressed like they used to be.

think about it. machine tolerances aside

my Felly 1.6 8v engine generates 75bhp

vag now make a 1.2tsi engine that generates 120bhp

how is it possible to make more than double the bhp/litre ratio, use turbochargers AND superchargers yet make a engine more reliable and economical.

SIMPLE ANSWER

THEY CAN'T I'm far from an engineer but clearly they have sacrificed some of the reliability and durability for better 'on paper' figures.

It's fine now when they are under warranty but imagine in 13yrs time.........

i bought my 13yr old skoda for £370 with FSH and 82,000 on the clock and very little rust and everything working. it now has 105,000 and still has eeverything working. worse case scenario the engine blows up and i buy a used one for £120 and fit it myself cos it's sooo simple.

Now imagine your Fabia vRS in 13yrs time, say 3 owners from new and 75,000 miles on the clock, worse case scenario... the DSG box goes!!! how much is a recon DSG box?? how many sensors are fitted and how easy is it to changed.

or even worse a turbo fails.... try £1200 bill to fix it

Maybe the point i'm making is the 'better' they make these engines the less reliable they will become!

I would say VAG make cars that feel, ride and are put together very well... if someone asked me for a reliable and cheap to maintain car i would send them Hyundai's or Toyota way.

If they asked for something that's well suited to fit into the middle-class stay at home mum environment and lived in Tunbridge Wells i would send them VW's way

If they asked for the best way to prove they are chav's but had money to spend i would point them in the way of Audi.

I love Skoda's, but thanks to VAG's current standards i wouldn't describe them as long lasting or reliable. they are still good.

Oh and FYI i think Vauxhalls are rubbish and would never buy one i simply used the Corsa as an example because my friend has one

rant over

Edited 18 July, 201114 yr by Sonner

I've had cars before that drank oil (looking at you 1.9PD 130...) but that ceased after 40k and I usually bought 5L every 20k.

I think 4L in 2K is excessive though. I can only think it's my driving style but surely a car wouldn't use that much. It isn't like I'm a perman-Schumacher behind the wheel...

dont think it is your driving style done 1800 all short runs 10 to 15 mins 5 to 10 miles never drive it hard, never red lined it and still used 3L oil

my Felly 1.6 8v engine generates 75bhp

vag now make a 1.2tsi engine that generates 120bhp

Mine only has 105?

The same can be said about most manafacturers. Toyota get 101bhp out of a 1.33 engine, Vauxhall 85bhp from a 1.2, Rover had 105bhp from a 1.4 years ago, you can get 69bhp from a 1.0 Toyota engine.

Edited 18 July, 201114 yr by adamc260

dont think it is your driving style done 1800 all short runs 10 to 15 mins 5 to 10 miles never drive it hard, never red lined it and still used 3L oil

Not just me then?

That's good to know.

And i remember the S1 Peugeot Rallye that had 1.3ltr 100bhp engine and that was back in the mid nineties!

saw a dynoed when on the forums about 2yrs ago that had about 120,000miles on the clock and was dynoed at 107bhp, as standard engine with sports exhaust and a ported head.

I've used 2.5l in 2500 miles. Always warm up before i rag it and cool down oil after. Mostly short journeys and good drive once a weekish. Never run it in as such. The guys with cupras had high oil consumption when they run them in

Edited 19 July, 201114 yr by P1TT8ULL

But does it ease off? Did read it takes up to 10k