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Hopefully I am not getting confused now. I have fixed servicing on my VRS every year or 10,000 miles. I am likely to do around 5,000/6,000 per year.

I bought Catrol Edge 5w 30 and looked at the above topic and other posts on this forum around the January 2011 time frame a month or so before my VRS arrived.

I presume I am still correct to use this oil. However per my earlier post I have only had to put 300/400 ml in so far in 2,100 miles so if its slightly the wrong spec, I would hope no harm has been done.

Please advise.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/51141-what-oils-meets-specs-vw-504-00-507-00/

Hopefully I am not getting confused now. I have fixed servicing on my VRS every year or 10,000 miles. I am likely to do around 5,000/6,000 per year.

I bought Catrol Edge 5w 30 and looked at the above topic and other posts on this forum around the January 2011 time frame a month or so before my VRS arrived.

I presume I am still correct to use this oil. However per my earlier post I have only had to put 300/400 ml in so far in 2,100 miles so if its slightly the wrong spec, I would hope no harm has been done.

Please advise.

I found the following on another site

"Basically they two oils will be the same viscosity when cold, so both good for getting oil around quickly with cold.

But 30 will be thinner when hot, so when pushing the engine and creating alot of heat the oil make shear (loosing protection) where as the 40 will stay thicker at the same heat.

Also oil temps will go up quicker with thinner oils"

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/51141-what-oils-meets-specs-vw-504-00-507-00/

Hopefully I am not getting confused now. I have fixed servicing on my VRS every year or 10,000 miles. I am likely to do around 5,000/6,000 per year.

I bought Catrol Edge 5w 30 and looked at the above topic and other posts on this forum around the January 2011 time frame a month or so before my VRS arrived.

I presume I am still correct to use this oil. However per my earlier post I have only had to put 300/400 ml in so far in 2,100 miles so if its slightly the wrong spec, I would hope no harm has been done.

Please advise.

If you are looking at 504.00/507.00 - this is the wrong specification for the Fabia.

502.00 is the correct one, though strangely the Mobil 1 Oil I've got is 5w30 but with 502.00 specification on it.

If you are looking at 504.00/507.00 - this is the wrong specification for the Fabia.

502.00 is the correct one, though strangely the Mobil 1 Oil I've got is 5w30 but with 502.00 specification on it.

the reply i got from castrol is that the 504/07 spec is greater than the 502 spec, so an oil which meets 504/07 will be fine for cars with a spec of 502.

the reply i got from castrol is that the 504/07 spec is greater than the 502 spec, so an oil which meets 504/07 will be fine for cars with a spec of 502.

Really? I never knew that. I stand corrected.

the reply i got from castrol is that the 504/07 spec is greater than the 502 spec, so an oil which meets 504/07 will be fine for cars with a spec of 502.

Thanks Chas, the Castrol Edge was recommended on hear a while ago and also I use OpieOils for my oil (have done for a good whilst) and this is one of the recommended oils for the VRS engine.

Appreciate the updates.

Maybe a thread with a survey like the following?

Estate or hatchback:

Miles driven:

Miles done per week:

Average trip length in minutes:

MPG:

Temp of oil as given by maxidot after 15 minutes of driving:

Type of oil including brand (e.g Castrol Magnatec 5w30):

Amount of oil used total (or amount used in a specific distance e.g. 2L in 2000 miles):

How you ran the car in (e.g. As manual suggests, driven hard etc):

Just to try and gauge if there any commonalities with those having oil issues.

Some further info from my mechanic...

5W 30 is too thin at high temps which effectively means that it doesn't protect the engine as well as the 5W 40. If we were talking about engines that don't produce that much friction and high temps it would be fine but that is not the case with the engines from the VW Group.

When you go from 30 to 40 the engine will "react" and still drink oil but not as much. Slowly though with the next change things will get better and better.

Overall when run on 5W 40 the engine should use on average every 7500 khm, 500ml of oil which is acceptable.

Furthermore it is good to change oil every 7500khm and not for a longer period of time in order to stay on top of things.

Some companies that have proven to produce 5W 40 with good reults are Castrol, Fuchs, Q8 and Shell (helix line). Of course there are loads more but those are tested ones.

Hope this info further helps this discussion.

I topped up with 0-30 ... what does that mean?! ( I haven't used any oil in the last 3,000 miles...)

it was castrol edge, matched the right specs...

I think I have a top up bottle of castrol edge 5w 30 as told by my dealer to buy? I think anyway, its in the boot

I see - when I'm out of 5w30 I'll get 40...

I'd check the manual as I'm sure it specificly states 504 spec or 502 spec

OK 5W-40 is 502 & 505 spec complient 5W-30 is 504 & 507 spec complient

My understanding of the VW spec system is 504 is a harder specification than 502 spec.

Hence 504 is used for veriable serviceing and 502 for fixed

I've been using Castrol Edge 0W-40 which meets VW 502 spec. Can anyone confirm if this is ok to use?

any oil 502 spec or above should be fine

I am using Quantum LONGLIFE 3 5-30 (507) which is basically castrol edge this has been recommended by every VAG garage i have been in touch with. The bonus with this is i can use it in our MK1 vRS too

Reading this now and the original link i posted at the top of this page it appears if you meet or exceed the spec then either 30 or 40 oils should be okay to use.

Seems a mire of confusion ! (again....)

I am sure for top ups either would be fine then at the next oil change/service get the dealer to confirm what they are using and use the same. Remember if the dealer or the books list something and owners use that or something the exceeds that spec everything should be okay.

I'd check the manual as I'm sure it specificly states 504 spec or 502 spec

OK 5W-40 is 502 & 505 spec complient 5W-30 is 504 & 507 spec complient

My understanding of the VW spec system is 504 is a harder specification than 502 spec.

Hence 504 is used for veriable serviceing and 502 for fixed

Manual says 502.00 ONLY, because all Fabia's are on Fixed servicing.

Right, just throw a spaner in the works...... I'm using 5W 30 in both vRS's. The Ferbi is fixed, my Octi tdi is on variable service intervals. Now, will this oil (as reccomended by my local service centre) be OK for both cars, or is one likley to go "BANG!"......

Manual says 502.00 ONLY, because all Fabia's are on Fixed servicing.

Mine is on variable servicing, from factory .

Mine is on variable servicing, from factory .

Ah, but you are from Sweden, in the UK they are all fixed AFAIK

Right to add confusion (or clarity) to this post i phoned my supplying dealer.

They recommend, and would fill the car with Castrol Edge 5W40 on the annual service/oil changes they do in the garage and suggest that is the best oil to use at all times. Reason for this is the 40 (as previously stated in this chain) is slightly thicker and more protective than the 30.

However she said if you are topping up and (as i have) with Castrol Edge 5 W 30 it will do no harm, although she recommended using 5W40 when I next buy a new 1 litre bottle for top ups.

Hopefully this is more helpful than non helpful.

Right to add confusion (or clarity) to this post i phoned my supplying dealer.

They recommend, and would fill the car with Castrol Edge 5W40 on the annual service/oil changes they do in the garage and suggest that is the best oil to use at all times. Reason for this is the 40 (as previously stated in this chain) is slightly thicker and more protective than the 30.

However she said if you are topping up and (as i have) with Castrol Edge 5 W 30 it will do no harm, although she recommended using 5W40 when I next buy a new 1 litre bottle for top ups.

Hopefully this is more helpful than non helpful.

Thanks!! Thats confirmed a train of thought I've been having the last couple of days

I've put 4L through my car, so I'd guess that mine is running exclusively on 5w30 by now

I've put 4L through my car, so I'd guess that mine is running exclusively on 5w30 by now

Indeed ! Would change to the 40 for the next top up

Hi guys, been reading the thread as in fact, high oil consumption is my last prejudice/fear before I place the order for a vRS so I have some issues to discuss.

1) Have we agreed/verified that the run-in style affects later oil-consumption? Furthermore, what are the different styles and how they affect accordingly? I have understood the following but please correct if necessary!

a. Case of Gorebrush: The car was run in extremely smoothly during the first 3K by 1st owner, maximum 2500-3000 rpm I take it?? (Please confirm!) So now it's using 1L per 500 miles (nearly)

b. Case of sharkrider: The car was driven normally from day one, I suspect even 5500-6000 at times? (Please confirm!) Now it's using 1L per 5000 miles (nearly 10 times less!)

c. Other run-in styles between the two, consumption is between the two.

Are the above correct?

Also, could it be a particular problem of the first vRS that came out? I mean do we know of a vRS manufactured in 2011 that presents the same issues? Sorry for probably long message but as I have nearly made up my mind towards the RS, I am quite worried of this possible issue...

Thanks!

Mine was treated fairly gently to normally for the first 500 miles, then i started to open her up, drive in sport mode and use the paddles on occassions. At 800 odd miles we did a trip to the lake district than covered nearly a further 800 miles and on that trip driving was mainly motorway but some decent spirited driving throughout the week - basically a good bit of everything !

When I came back from that trip I topped up the oil by 300/400 mil as it needed it to get it back to full

Since then I have driven nearly a further 600 miles normal driving including some decent thrashing now and then (total milage now circa 2,150) checked the oil further and its still full.

I must admit reading posts and knowing the the engine is quite highly strung ie. small unit lots of power I expected more oil usage than i have had but I guess each car and style of driving will be different. If i need to top up again before 1st service I will use up the bottle of 5w 30 and then replace with 5w 40 going forward.

Hope this helps you newbie69