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That does look good although I'd probably go for a different colour. Just have to keep an eye out to see what they go for. A quick look reveals some rough ones.

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That does look good although I'd probably go for a different colour. Just have to keep an eye out to see what they go for. A quick look reveals some rough ones.

Ideal time of year to buy as well, you'll find bargains galore and can haggle dealers down quite a bit too.

Pity the 7R i sold recently would have been too extreme as a first bike for you, it went for £1400....now thats a lot of bike for the money.

I don't want anything nuts for a first bike. I want some speed so I'm not bored but also want decent handling so I can learn how to control it. I presume you just get used to the seating position on a bike?

Best to get out there and test ride bikes you fancy once you pass your test Martyn, seating positions vary wildly from model to model.

Daft question but what height are you and whats your inside leg measurement?

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ZZR's are more up right sitting and take most sizes of people as long as feet can touch ground that is. You may want something more sporting seating wise. No harm in going to a bike shop telling them you in process of doing test, no harm sitting on a few. That might instantly rule some out for you.

ZZR's are more up right sitting and take most sizes of people as long as feet can touch ground that is. You may want something more sporting seating wise. No harm in going to a bike shop telling them you in process of doing test, no harm sitting on a few. That might instantly rule some out for you.

I'm off Monday so I'll go and pick my local shops brains a bit. I'm 6"1, 32" inside leg.

Might find supersports bikes a bit cramped then, honestly i still think an earlier model hornet, fazer or an SV650 for starting would be idea.

Reason i say earlier hornet or fazer is that the newer models engines really need reved to get best out them.

Also you can pick up a brand new SV650 for £3999 :-)

Also you can pick up a brand new SV650 for £3999 :-)

SV650's are cracking fun!

Fantastic bikes for the price, get an Akrapovic exhaust on it and they sound mega too....just a mini TL lol

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I'm off Monday so I'll go and pick my local shops brains a bit. I'm 6"1, 32" inside leg.

You are my body double by the sounds (beer gut dependant)

Working on the gut. That's what the road bike is for. Seen several view of people recommending an SV650 mainly for them being cheap and fun. I'd just have to get used to no fuel gauge but there's ways round that. Would only take running out of fuel once to know how many miles it does.

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Working on the gut. That's what the road bike is for. Seen several view of people recommending an SV650 mainly for them being cheap and fun. I'd just have to get used to no fuel gauge but there's ways round that. Would only take running out of fuel once to know how many miles it does.

Do 100 miles with a full tank and fill it up then you know how much it uses. 230 miles I got from ZZR600 once worst 80 miles, guess which was more fun :D

I'd just have to get used to no fuel gauge but there's ways round that. Would only take running out of fuel once to know how many miles it does.

Don't be too concerned about not having a gauge You get a low fuel light, and you soon learn how many miles it will do before you need fuel. Usually 120 to 130 miles to the light on the bikes I've had.

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Additionally ZZR600 has reserve tap when you run out turn it and you get your reserve fuel. Lots of people don't like them and bikes don't tend to have them any more but I like it make you really aware of how much is left.

Something I just remembered too, the fuel gauge on my ZZR600 lied anyway. It would drop slowly down to half, and then quickly. So you end up just keeping an eye on the trip meter anyway. Also you'll get 50 miles or so once you hit reserve, so that will usually be ample to get to the next petrol station.

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Something I just remembered too, the fuel gauge on my ZZR600 lied anyway. It would drop slowly down to half, and then quickly. So you end up just keeping an eye on the trip meter anyway. Also you'll get 50 miles or so once you hit reserve, so that will usually be ample to get to the next petrol station.

Yea mine was the same with drop of needle seemingly being in 2 stages. I assumed this was due to the internal shape of a fuel tank being unsuitable to a float based system as the level at top will be of greater volume and tank gets thinner as it gets lower. This is most likely why not many makers bothered fitting them just settling for a 1 or 2 stage low warning light system. Some newer seem to have it on the LCD displays no idea if fuel is measured electronically via what goes through injectors??

Here is another Sarah style question for you all (is it just me?) on the matter of fuel left in tank. While out riding if you don't know how much fuel is left (perhaps ridden harder than normal or didn't note odo / reset trip meter). I when stopped at lights etc with feet on ground lean bike left and right quickly to hear the sound of fuel sloshing in tank and weight, know from experience know how much is left.

just a pic of my Triumph Speed Triple R for when it actually stops raining or snowing here in Scotland.

and yea that's 50 BHP of NoS so SSSHHUUUU don't tell the warranty dept lol

enjoy

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and heres a pic of my old drag busa

that was 300BHP monster with NoS as well lol

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and when i finally bothered to paint the wheels

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Some newer seem to have it on the LCD displays no idea if fuel is measured electronically via what goes through injectors??

How would it know when you'd filled the tank again? ;)

It's still done via a float in the tank. I've never actually seen a different method used on any type of vehicle.

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How would it know when you'd filled the tank again? ;)

It's still done via a float in the tank. I've never actually seen a different method used on any type of vehicle.

I meant float to establish level in tank and uses not the level of float to establish amount left in tank, ie if float is half way through its range this would in most tanks not be half full due to shape. Is there some computer wizardry in newer ones that the computer knows when float is at half way this means XX amount of fuel is left and displays its gauge amount on that basis, rather than old school float and needle? I have nothing on new bike rather than the low light but on the ZZR1400 it had full on board comp constant mpg average etc

I meant float to establish level in tank and uses not the level of float to establish amount left in tank, ie if float is half way through its range this would in most tanks not be half full due to shape. Is there some computer wizardry in newer ones that the computer knows when float is at half way this means XX amount of fuel is left and displays its gauge amount on that basis, rather than old school float and needle? I have nothing on new bike rather than the low light but on the ZZR1400 it had full on board comp constant mpg average etc

Ah well that makes more sense. I wouldn't have thought they'd bother going to the trouble and the cost of it but it's possible.

When you mentioned injectors I thought you meant it measuring how much passes through them. Of course vehicle manufacturers do measure how much fuel is used for mpg readouts and variable servicing schedules etc.

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Ah well that makes more sense. I wouldn't have thought they'd bother going to the trouble and the cost of it but it's possible.

When you mentioned injectors I thought you meant it measuring how much passes through them. Of course vehicle manufacturers do measure how much fuel is used for mpg readouts and variable servicing schedules etc.

Not how I meant it to read but it was late and it did read like that :D was half a reply really. Like in the ZZR600 float/needle would be high for a good bit as top of tank carries the most volume then once it got to the thinner part of tank it would fall rapidly so needle saying half full would not equate to 9 litres of the 18 capacity so to speak.

You can see why the black ones cost more. If all your clothes were mainly white then it would be fine. Nice looking boots though

Well at last I dug up a couple of photos of the 2 bikes I have at present.

Aprilia Tuono r V Twin.

Twin Akrapovic exhausts, awesome.

This bike gives you smiles per miles.

At best I can get 120 miles to the tank, at the most fun 80 to reserve.

The Kwack zrx1200s is a very good tourer and comfortable, had it since 2005.

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