He drives a bit too fast past all those cars scattered everywhere for my liking & almost rear ends the green transit...................typical BMW owner, & he was on Vredestein snowtrack 3 winter tyres.............which made him more Awesome......but he still drives like a idiot................

 

Yep. I thought the same. The irony was the title - "Dispelling the myth". Personally for me it re-inforced it.....

Yep. I thought the same. The irony was the title - "Dispelling the myth". Personally for me it re-inforced it.....

Well, if it hadnt been for all the cars scattered around (with summertyres?) nothing in that clip would been too fast...

To be fair to him the overtake sequence is speeded up on the video.

I've done similar, those on summers crawling along at 5mph and I've overtaken them doing 25mph and get horns blaring and plenty of fingers waved. The rest of northern Europe with winter tyre legislation doesn't crawl along at 5mph.

Lee

Yeah gotta carry the momentum uphill (:

Its a balancing act between being able to stop if one pulls out though haha.

To be fair to him the overtake sequence is speeded up on the video.

 

I've done similar, those on summers crawling along at 5mph and I've overtaken them doing 25mph and get horns blaring and plenty of fingers waved. The rest of northern Europe with winter tyre legislation doesn't crawl along at 5mph.

 

Lee

 

I've had a closer look at that video & all he has done is cut/fade in/out to shorten it, the speed he is overtaking those cars on the hill after he play spins the car is too fast IMHO considering the width of the road.............

 

The speed he over takes from 36secs in to the end is too fast IMHO for width of the road & considering people on the road on foot & cars everywhere...........infact look at the speedo when he passes the camera over & it is on 40mph marker..

 

I have done 50mph over taking people when they are doing 25mhp on a wider section of road & with less static traffic, but the speed he does are too fast, none of those people in cars or on foot would be expecting a car to be traveling that fast past them, so if they slip/fall/pull out he can't stop in time even on winters...............

 

Also his play spin still shows how poor a RWD car is in winter compared to a FWD................very difficult to do that in my old Fabia & even harder in my new Golf.............the damn thing grips too well................

I think the point is it proves the capabilities of the tires, even if used more aggressively than most people should. I would have also gone right up past the entire queue, but not at anything near that speed. In fact, I like coming to a stop on hills then setting off without a fuss just to make a point

It looked like an oncoming car slewed sideways when they saw the approaching car on their side of the road. Perhaps tried to brake to suddenly?

I think the point is it proves the capabilities of the tires, even if used more aggressively than most people should. I would have also gone right up past the entire queue, but not at anything near that speed. In fact, I like coming to a stop on hills then setting off without a fuss just to make a point

Yeah i do that too. Its just set off and go.

Ive had to let people go before (they couldnt stop coming down the hill) so ive stopped with a lorry behind who had to stop too. I set off.. Mr lorry man couldnt.

I did feel sorry for him. Bet there was some swearing going off haha.

Will winter tyres interfere with my wanting to handbrake it into junctions and my drive when there is some snow down? If so, forget it!

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Edited 16 October, 201510 yr by briscaF1

Yes, the god of winter tyres, Thaw, will stop your car from sliding and give you a hard smote to the handbraking wrist with his mighty tyre fitters rim scratching hammer.

Will winter tyres interfere with my wanting to handbrake it into junctions and my drive when there is some snow down? If so, forget it!

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You'll be able to get a better run up for it

Will winter tyres interfere with my wanting to handbrake it into junctions and my drive when there is some snow down? If so, forget it!

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Yup. Ruins it.

For maximum effect, just fit winters to the front. Its frowned upon, but ive done it before.

You get awesome lift off oversteer at slow speeds. Back end whips right around. Its great haha.

I like to do the opposite and fit MOT failure tyres during winter the balder the better and when the snow comes i am awesome, pirouetting down the street glancing against kerbs like the gutter barriers at a bowling alley.

 

Just trying to get the topic back on track  :clap:

I like to do the opposite and fit MOT failure tyres during winter the balder the better and when the snow comes i am awesome, pirouetting down the street glancing against kerbs like the gutter barriers at a bowling alley.

 

Just trying to get the topic back on track  :clap:

 

 

in order to get this thread properly back on topic, we need to know at what temperature it is operating at. is it under 7 degrees C or not?

in order to get this thread properly back on topic, we need to know at what temperature it is operating at. is it under 7 degrees C or not?

 

You know when people say its to cold to snow and it actually snows that sort of temperature.

In that case I will post only in my finest Winter Types. A lot more purchase from the letter S (as in slippery) in particular and a Full Stop is much more efficient. Much less chance of it crashing into the next sentance

Edited 16 October, 201510 yr by Lady Elanore

I'd find it surprising if it were precisely 7.0 deg C for winter tyres. Is it actually 6.51 deg C or 7.49, assuming some rounding or somewhere in between?

Also, if I measure the temperature with a thermocouple to a few thousands of a degree and the temperature is bouncing around the recommended change over temperature, do I have to keep swapping tyres or can I buy some intermediate (spring/autumn) tyres to save my wheel stud threads?

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I've bought these for the Ignis, mainly because I know I'm most definitely not awesome.

 

 

Having run winter tyres before on the Octavia, I'm sold on the whole concept.  I've got Rainsport 3s on the Vectra which did very well through the winter months last year  but I'm well aware of their capabilities/limitations.  Also, being 235, 35 19" they wouldn't fare very well in snow at all.  I have priced up some winter tyres in this size but they are just so damned expensive.

 

My cunning plan in to have the winter tyres put on the original Ignis wheels.  They are a 185 55 15" tyre, cost £50 for all four off ebay and if it looks like the weather is bad enough to need them then I'll swap the wheels over.  'Till then I'll run the other wheels on the Ignis - again Rainsport 3 - and keep an eye on the forecast. 

 

I work in a village in North Yorkshire that relies on the local farmers to clear the roads when it snows.  It's not exactly in the middle of nowhere, but it's not got any mains gas yet so that gives you an idea of how modern civilisation with gritted roads is merely a fantasy that we hear about.  I've worked there for 13 years and have seen varying winters and conditions.  On the whole people can get around on summers but when mother nature is in one of her less benevolent moods a decent set of winters is the only way to get to work and to get home again.

 

As I said, I have tried various cars, tyres and techniques over the years and I am fully aware that my awesomeness does not outrank nature, hence the tyres.

OK... I'm no longer awesome... just bought some winter wheels and tyres!

OK... I'm no longer awesome... just bought some winter wheels and tyres!

Shame on you.

Pretty much admitting you dont have the skill or capability of a true competent summer tyre driving god . .

Shame on you.

Pretty much admitting you dont have the skill or capability of a true competent summer tyre driving god . .

 

I am... but my other half isn't so I'm actually being awesome by saving the car from being written off by them in slippery conditions!

 

Just glad they're not on here to rear that! lol

 

In reality we both need the car more for work now including some longer runs to Cambridge every couple of weeks. For the sake of £200 I've got a second set of wheels and tyres that will perform better in the cold and save the summer tyres being worn in that time.

 

Phil

I feel I need Winter tyres , but I also fell I am awesome. Can anyone help? is there a thread somewhere I can use for this perplexing dilemma?

  

Winter tyres trumps awesome every time. Just get winters and you'll automatically be all you need to be.

  

But I am awesome already, so the excess of awesomeness might make me explode..........in an awesome kind of way of course

Ok I am going to throw this in here.

I am awsome and I have winter tyres - argument settled :-D

I'm not awesome and have Winter Tyres

12*oC plus and torrential rain and roads like rivers, and winter tyres can be awesome.

Or just pretty good when you drive to the conditions, even when it get warmer.

 

What is really awesome rubber is good wiper blades.

Winter ones are particularly good.

If you see the tyres you want, order them!

 

Saw some 205/50/15 Nokian A3's last week, held off from ordering and now they are not even listed on the site. Went for 195 XLs instead. Not a huge difference but I would have preferred the 205s.

Summer = Drink a beer as the sun sets and fall asleep as you are, wake up a few hours later ok.

Any other time = hypothermia.

 

Nothing quite as satisfying as driving around a 4x4 in the snow. But as said way back if as I was commuting, you'd eventually end up in a line of can't carry on's. So as you drive around them the typical british snooty comes out to play. Not sure what was more annoying boasting I'd got winters on being the only one in the office, helping push a porsche out of a ditch over hathersage on summers on 4" compacted snow, or sat at home spending money on heating.

 

But if you're truly awesome, then of course you don't need winter tyres in the UK, as you're in your antipodean home of course.  :p