hah the irony, have hit a linux kernel bug today due to edgy hardware, so logs of log files filling up my disk... So I'm but a few hours hair pulling from booting back to win10 test and running myself some vm's to get into stable linux land again... edgy hardware lets me do this Stripping my old linux workstation to borrow parts didn't pan out well in the end :(

 

So today windows works better for me... wow, it's not too bad, oh and I can control my fans too... silence yay!

 

On browsers, checkout vivaldi, it's quick and nice to use, same founder as Opera, I'm liking it... Then of course you have firefox, chrome, chromium ( it is different ). I tend to use a different browser for different things.

Avast now have their own Chrome based browser; they snuck it on to my PC during an update a few nights back (since deleted!!).

Gave it a far chance then.

 

 

Edge is cut down browser aimed at speed. Internet Explorer is still there and can be made default if you prefer that to Chrome.

 

I've been using Windows 10 for quite a few months without a single crash. This has been on two Macbooks, a couple of desktops and a Lenovo laptop. All have been great to use and only problems I've had is the trackpad on the Macbooks is too sensitive in Windows 10 and I've had to use Norton Ghost in comparability mode for the one time I've needed to use it.

My work laptop has Win 8.1. I don't like that either. The latest use of Win 10 was my second attempt at trying it out. I also tried one of the early release candidates on a dual boot PC.

I wasn't convinced by it then and I'm still not convinced now.

I'm happy with Win 7 and if Microsoft continue to churn out OS's designed for touchscreen/ mobile/ PC then I'll save my cash and run another Ubuntu machine.

My work laptop has Win 8.1. I don't like that either. The latest use of Win 10 was my second attempt at trying it out. I also tried one of the early release candidates on a dual boot PC.

I wasn't convinced by it then and I'm still not convinced now.

I'm happy with Win 7 and if Microsoft continue to churn out OS's designed for touchscreen/ mobile/ PC then I'll save my cash and run another Ubuntu machine.

I honestly think that there isn't "that much" different between 7 and 10 in functionality or use. I switch between the two without thinking about it.

I honestly think that there isn't "that much" different between 7 and 10 in functionality or use. I switch between the two without thinking about it.

There isn't, you can have the start menu like Win7 but I like the tiles and then split into groups. Design | Games etc and made the apps small icons, works really well. Or you could minimize them all and just have the start menu.

 

I've also used shell command and deleted the app store and all the apps and disabled anything to do with it, I'll never use the store and I don't need apps on my desktop.

 

Other than them 2 things everything is like 7.

Edited 14 April, 201610 yr by DeanVRS20VT

I lost interest in updating when they stopped calling them "programs" and called them "apps" instead. Used to be "Choose a program to open this type of file", now it's "Look in the app store for an app to open this type of file". Just so it appeals to the touchy finger types who think txting is a viable means of communication.

I lost interest in updating when they stopped calling them "programs" and called them "apps" instead. Used to be "Choose a program to open this type of file", now it's "Look in the app store for an app to open this type of file". Just so it appeals to the touchy finger types who think txting is a viable means of communication.

Once upon a time programs were called apps/applications in Windows.

That would be when windows used to die with a blue screen if you closed a door too hard, I guess.

With windows 10

 

Programs = things you install yourself from downloads and CDs that generally work

Apps = things you install by going to the app store, generally they are filled with tracking, adverts and don't work.

Edited 14 April, 201610 yr by Aspman

Other than them 2 things everything is like 7.

 

Not quite... apart from the lack of user control when it comes to updates, an irritating "feature" is that you cannot have NumLock activated as default unless you disable the quick boot function (which is a real improvement).

 

Some users won't bother, but on a desktop with full-sized keyboard and with a login password containing numbers it is a nuisance that you must remember to activate NumLock.

 

This is of course part of a general trend away from user control and it's not only Microsoft but also Apple, Android/Google, part of the Linux world (Ubuntu), and various programs (apps?). The Opera browser, for instance, no longer offers the equivalent to Firefox's about:config menu, reducing tweakability :(

Edited 15 April, 201610 yr by swedishskoda

I like it and haven't had any hassle from it since the install..previously used XP, then 8.1 and now 10. Experienced 7 on the kids laptops and liked that too.

 

10's cool though, even on a regular, non-touchscreen, laptop (but it'd likely be better with a touchscreen)

How many years behind Apple are Microsoft ,I've just got a new computer with Windows 10 for general use and think I should have spent the extra and got a Mac ,our iPads are like some thing from the future for what we use them for,they just do everything so quickly.

Apple has been very good and successful at integrating all it's products together.

 

MS should have done this, thinks it has but has instead made a cluster**** of it all putting off new users and alienating those that did like what they did.

 

I have no idea what MS are doing right now other than for the most part making an arse of everything.

 

I don;t like Apple because it's overly shiny and you need to go wholesale into their ecosystem. It's also very hands off, and I'm used to pulling thing apart to fix, with computers anyway.

Edited 17 April, 201610 yr by Aspman

How many years behind Apple are Microsoft ,I've just got a new computer with Windows 10 for general use and think I should have spent the extra and got a Mac ,our iPads are like some thing from the future for what we use them for,they just do everything so quickly.

 

Apple is great - until you want to share with a non-believer. On holiday 2 weeks ago, we were all sharing our videos and photos with each other, except the ipad Air owner, who couldnt get her BlueTooth* to work with any of our Win or Android systems.

 

And of course there was no USB port, and so no USB OTG; a lightening adapter allowed her to charge off of my netbooks USB port, but it still wouldnt share data.

 

* Does Apples version ONLY allow an ibranded accessory to work?? We could all see and connect to her, but none of us could send or receive anything.

 

Of course email was also out, as we were on the top of a mountain sharing a 1Mb connection with 20,000 other people.

Never had issues Bluetoothing with iPhone owners.

I abandoned windows in October and have not looked back. Arch Linux for me now.

For general browsing, a Linux laptop is all you need. I have a Mint laptop and another running Ubuntu. But I find it too fiddly to use for anything else. Too much command line stuff required. For anything professional it's a no go imho, no Office and a lot of the sort of programs I use aren't available for anything but Windows. That's a shame as I quite like MacOS.

I had the trial version of Windows 10 running on an old Dell Latitude laptop and it was impressive. Notably faster than W7 and easy ish to use. But I didn't really do that much with it. For some reason, the full version seems quite slow even on newer laptops, and I find it frustrating not to be able to find things I could do easily on W7 and earlier versions. They seem to have made everything take more clicks than it used to, including in Office 2016 (yes, I realise that's a different product but it shows how far Microsoft have lost their way.)

I have a Lenovo laptop which is still running Windows 7 and I'm loath to upgrade it to Windows 10.

All this App Store rubbish just shows that Microsoft are trying to copy Apple. What was wrong with the Internet as an App Store for a computer (as opposed to a tablet)?

I am toying with Linux, although after decades on Windows, it is a steep learning curve.

 

If you want to try Win10, wait till the summer, there is a big refresh due.

 

If you want to try Win10, wait till the summer, there is a big refresh due.

In other words, after the free update option has expired?

For general browsing, a Linux laptop is all you need. I have a Mint laptop and another running Ubuntu. But I find it too fiddly to use for anything else. Too much command line stuff required. For anything professional it's a no go imho, no Office and a lot of the sort of programs I use aren't available for anything but Windows. That's a shame as I quite like MacOS.

I had the trial version of Windows 10 running on an old Dell Latitude laptop and it was impressive. Notably faster than W7 and easy ish to use. But I didn't really do that much with it. For some reason, the full version seems quite slow even on newer laptops, and I find it frustrating not to be able to find things I could do easily on W7 and earlier versions. They seem to have made everything take more clicks than it used to, including in Office 2016 (yes, I realise that's a different product but it shows how far Microsoft have lost their way.)

I have a Lenovo laptop which is still running Windows 7 and I'm loath to upgrade it to Windows 10.

All this App Store rubbish just shows that Microsoft are trying to copy Apple. What was wrong with the Internet as an App Store for a computer (as opposed to a tablet)?

You could always dual boot 10 with 7 and see how you like it http://www.howtogeek.com/197647/how-to-dual-boot-windows-10-with-windows-7-or-8/

I was loathe to use 10, tried it two or three times but bought a new (Lenovo) laptop last weekend with 10 preinstalled. I googled 'windows classic shell' and installed that (3rd party app programme) and it does make 10 feel a lot more '7ish'.

In other words, after the free update option has expired?

 

Take up has been so poor, I expect they will extend it at the last moment, but TBH I had forgotten about that.

Take up has been so poor, I expect they will extend it at the last moment, but TBH I had forgotten about that.

Microsoft have already confirmed there will be no extension to the free upgrade.

Also read those who downloaded but rolled back to 7/8 will also be given a deadline to install for free.

You can always buy an OEM installation disc online, you won't get the support side of things but it's really easy to install a fresh copy.

I might even buy a new one to avoid the upgrade route in the future.

Never had issues Bluetoothing with iPhone owners.

Try sending a photo, document or music file from any Apple iPhone/Mac to a Windows or Android phone and it won't. Apple's implementation of Bluetooth is to say the least rubbish.

I have a LG G4 I can send/swap ringtones, photos, docs etc to just about everyone except iPhone owners who I have to send it via email.

What a cr4p system of working.

I have an old Toshiba laptop that is still running Vista!!! (its about 7 years old), a home pc on windows 8 and a Lenovo laptop on Windows 10 and I find the Vista and 8 far easier to use. Maybe I am just getting old but I struggle with 10 at times.