Another improvement in charging times:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-tesla-supercharger-can-give-1000-miles-charge-hour

 

This kit draws a serious amount of power, up to 1 MW. It will be interesting to see if service stations etc have to upgrade their electricity supply.

That is the mission that Scottish Power and other Utilities companies need to get a move on with.

Luckily they are in that business.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Skoffski said:

That is the mission that Scottish Power and other Utilities companies need to get a move on with.

Luckily they are in that business.

 

 

 

Nice snow collector George.

5 hours ago, MikeHig said:

Another improvement in charging times:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-tesla-supercharger-can-give-1000-miles-charge-hour

 

This kit draws a serious amount of power, up to 1 MW. It will be interesting to see if service stations etc have to upgrade their electricity supply.

I assume the theory is fine but I have my doubts about the widespread distribution of them.

I’d like to know what the crossover point is for fluid cooled cable requirement.......and

is it oil or what?

Do the EU have compatibility requirements and other standards which ensure there won’t be a shambolic mishmash ?.

If not I suspect the Chinese will impose it via the market place/share.

Really interesting video: that's an impressive company. The Fastned guy gave a brief answer to the supply issue question when he said that the power draw of a large station, when busy, would be too much for the grid so batteries will be needed.

There was also a comment towards the end that it's "not cheap". That has to be expected, given the level of investment and the kit required. Unfortunately they did not quote any figures. Clearly Fastned are expecting lots of regular customers, especially those who cannot charge at home. However the reporters felt that it will be used by folk on long trips or as a quick top-up, presumably because of cost. It will be very interesting to see how this evolves and, indeed, how the overall business model develops.

It's a good time to be a battery supplier.

 

1 minute ago, MikeHig said:

Really interesting video: that's an impressive company. The Fastned guy gave a brief answer to the supply issue question when he said that the power draw of a large station, when busy, would be too much for the grid so batteries will be needed.

There was also a comment towards the end that it's "not cheap". That has to be expected, given the level of investment and the kit required. Unfortunately they did not quote any figures. Clearly Fastned are expecting lots of regular customers, especially those who cannot charge at home. However the reporters felt that it will be used by folk on long trips or as a quick top-up, presumably because of cost. It will be very interesting to see how this evolves and, indeed, how the overall business model develops.

It's a good time to be a battery supplier.

 

There are going to be losers as well I suspect.

 

On the standards/compatability question, it's my impression that there are multiple systems in the market at the moment. Another comment on the video was that these stations will have the different versions of cables and connectors and the software will recognise the charging requirements of each vehicle.

This system can charge at up to 175 kW and does not use cooled cables whereas there was a recent demo by Porsche which ran at 350 or 400 kW and definitely did use cooling. That rather suggest that 175 kW may be about the limit for uncooled cabling: it will keep your hands warm when "filling up" on a cold day!

^^^^ out here the hot day might be problematic so I guess it will self modulate.

Exciting times ahead........nervous ones for investors.

ICE sales in decline and manufacturers will have to be nimble -

https://thedriven.io/2019/03/08/plunging-sales-suggests-end-is-nigh-for-fossil-fuel-cars-in-australia/

 

.......and almost nobody in Australia has seen an electric car yet......... of any description !

@Ryeman

You have it so the roof can be heated like a rear screen on a car, light sensors to switch on and clear solar panels. 'Simply Clever'.

http://thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/angus-mearns/705446/angus-a90-project-will-creat-electric-vehicle-charging-hub

http://marstons.co.uk/news/marstons-rolls-out-rapid-EV-chargers.aspx

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-46749022

http://edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/2626/green_light_for_pioneering_vehicle_infrastructure_plan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 8 March, 20197 yr by Skoffski

15 hours ago, MikeHig said:

Another improvement in charging times:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-tesla-supercharger-can-give-1000-miles-charge-hour

 

This kit draws a serious amount of power, up to 1 MW. It will be interesting to see if service stations etc have to upgrade their electricity supply.

Batteries is the solution, as you've noted from Fastned video.

 

What other thing does Tesla happen to build other than building cars? Giant grid connected batteries   I suspect this is more than about providing charging to cars, this is ticket into all countries grid servicing.

"We'll build 8 supercharger V3 here, but we'll need a bit more land to put xxxx KWh battery here. By the way, we can provide grid services and help you earn money on top of providing charging infrastructure."

I heard earlier today on the radio that TESLA are to build cars at the Gigafactory 3 in China.

wyx087; I think you've nailed it. The Megabattery in Oz is making money hand-over-fist by arbitraging power prices. They could do the same thing here alongside charging cars and the extra revenue would let them keep charging costs to attractive levels. Also there is already a payment mechanism in place in the UK for "grid support" - batteries qualify.

1 minute ago, MikeHig said:

wyx087; I think you've nailed it. The Megabattery in Oz is making money hand-over-fist by arbitraging power prices. They could do the same thing here alongside charging cars and the extra revenue would let them keep charging costs to attractive levels. Also there is already a payment mechanism in place in the UK for "grid support" - batteries qualify.

Sadly our Conservatives hate any news that gives the impression that renewable infrastructure not only works but solves problems associated with old infrastructure.

Murdoch media simply ignores such positive feedback from the associated industry because they have ‘contributors’ who are actively promoting coal.........simply more of the Trump disease.

1 hour ago, MikeHig said:

wyx087; I think you've nailed it. The Megabattery in Oz is making money hand-over-fist by arbitraging power prices. They could do the same thing here alongside charging cars and the extra revenue would let them keep charging costs to attractive levels. Also there is already a payment mechanism in place in the UK for "grid support" - batteries qualify.

 

if you look at the hubs in Dundee you will see they already do incorporate batteries

VW EV push continues -

https://www.autonews.com/automakers-suppliers/vw-accelerates-electric-push-more-models-more-production

Kona from a US perspective -

https://www.thecarconnection.com/overview/hyundai_kona-electric_2019

Some feel threatened it seems -

https://www.autonews.com/keith-crain/ev-fever-i-just-dont-get-it

 

https://thedriven.io/2019/03/11/will-the-death-of-the-ice-vehicle-come-earlier-than-expected/

Edited 13 March, 20197 yr by Ryeman

Australia’s India push -

https://thedriven.io/2019/03/12/tritium-inks-deal-to-supply-electric-vehicle-fast-chargers-for-india/

 

A bit early in fact George -

https://electrek.co/2019/03/13/vw-id-electric-hatchback-pre-orders-open-may-8-production-september/

 

this ‘pre-order’ business is to determine exactly how serious the talk has been?.

Edited 13 March, 20197 yr by Ryeman

Texas strategy to emasculate Tesla -

https://electrek.co/2019/03/16/tesla-service-ban-texas/

 

(I guess if you can effectively ‘buy’ political partys there is nothing to stop you )

Edited 17 March, 20197 yr by Ryeman

10 hours ago, Ryeman said:

Texas strategy to emasculate Tesla -

https://electrek.co/2019/03/16/tesla-service-ban-texas/

 

(I guess if you can effectively ‘buy’ political partys there is nothing to stop you )

Thankfully the rest of the world isn't as narrow minded and looks to the future instead of the past.

1 minute ago, john999boy said:

Thankfully the rest of the world isn't as narrow minded and looks to the future instead of the past.

A nation that thinks it’s ok for super PACs to fund their agenda and can’t bring itself to ban gerrymandering makes the US the least suitable world leader of any sort. 

https://www.autonews.com/letter-editor/evs-are-coming-it-or-not

 

https://www.autonews.com/letter-editor/evs-have-come-long-way

Edited 20 March, 20197 yr by Ryeman