Does this take control of the steering if you veer out of lane

Is it worth 385?

If it's in you won't veer out of the lane so long as certain criteria are met. IE the sensors see lane or edge of carriageway markings. The lane symbol must be green not yellow. It only holds for a few seconds if you relax hold if the wheel. Some love it, some don't. Initially I only used it on dual lane roads. Now it's on permanently.when I drive cars without as I do regularly it feels strange and I'm constantly correcting the wheel for the first few miles. I love it. In country roads I don't notice it.

I've got it - I think it was standard on my VRS. 

There two different settings that you can have it on. The first one only helps if you're about to cross a line and the second constantly corrects your road position holding you in the same part of the lane.

 

I suppose it'll pay for itself the first time you're distracted on a bend or fall asleep and it beeps at you to take over steering.

Thanks this is probably a silly question - bit I assume it can be disabled completely when not wanted?

Thanks this is probably a silly question - bit I assume it can be disabled completely when not wanted?

It can. It was one of first things I did when I discovered how intrusive it is.

Its not worth the money IMO.

In short no, should it be in a any car, no. I'm just not a fan of all this assist gadgets, I have a couple of reasons why I don't like these things, 1st, I was instructed to drive by using my eyes and ears, that means checking mirrors and looking over my shoulder and so on. 2nd, the cost to repair these gadgets once cars are out of warranty will destroy the used price if any of the assist stuff is not working.

I have mine on, but don't really notice it that much, occassionally feel it contributing to the steering.

 

Only negative is when overtaking on a single carriageway - indicating to pull out means that it doesn't interfere as you cross the line, but if it picks up the centre lines whilst you are overtaking and you don't indicate to return back to the lane, it tries to provide input to stop you crossing them as you pull back in.

I've got it. Tbh, it's complete crap

I think it's excellent - especially when in adaptive lane guidance mode. The car will not only keep you in the lane, but it will track your position in the lane and keep it true at all times.

I've got it. Tbh, it's complete crap

I'm in agreement with this. Really didn't like how it made the steering feel.

Yeah my issue is the complete lack of consistency. Sometimes it's does nothing, sometimes it vibrates, sometimes it steers. Load of cobblers.

All those things that directly "assist" driver in steering (I do not mean ABS, ESP or other stability processes running in the background) and actively control speed, braking, car direction, etc are imo dangerous. Not necessarily even in obvious, direct way, but by making driver lazy, less vigilant and compromising driving skills and reactions over time. May be a subtle effect, but a cumulative one I believe. Moreover those things, even if they work well 99.99% of time, there are those "off the spec" situations for them, where conscious / subconscious driver reactions that you develop over time, are the only thing between crash and way out to safety. Those two effects together - losing skills and creating situations where you depend on machine to do driving may together lead to disaster.

Someone not long ago mentioned here an idea of self adapting cruise control/speed limiter with set-point taken from road signs or GPS map. Just imagine GPS errors, wrong signs and/or a car behind you not having such gizmo.

I had a speed limiter once in a car and tested it - another risk if you ask me. Even if it works as designed and disengages with kick-down, that is a fraction of a second you lose...one that could be the decisive. There is no re-doing things when "that moment" happens.

 

There are tons of situations where things can go wrong. I drove cars in last decade intensively (400kkm or so) and in many countries, seen more tragedies than needed.

My idea for driving is - stay alert, develop skills and don't rely on the machine in aspects of direct car control/safety.

came as standard on mine. tried it twice, then switched off - pointless imo.

I have it but have turned it off.

 

I found it makes the steering feel heavier and is really annoying as it pulls the wheel whilst your holding it.

 

The first one only helps if you're about to cross a line and the second constantly corrects your road position holding you in the same part of the lane.

 

I suppose it'll pay for itself the first time you're distracted on a bend or fall asleep and it beeps at you to take over steering.

Mine doesn't beep as noted above and mine seems to only have one setting where it is constantly correcting the wheel.

Personally, unlike adaptive ACC, which is one of those assist systems I find works really well especially with DSG, I don't find lane assist overly useful.

 

If it was on it would probably save you if you were incapacitated with a heart attack or something. it would keep you between the white lines and acc or front assist would stop you. I have seen the mess a car makes going through the central reservation after a heart attack.

 

The problem is it is not really accurate enough, it is too intrusive, and it can sometimes lead you down the garden path (literally)

 

It can be fooled by other lines. The ones I am wary of are the temporary road works lines where they just black out the original white lines. Often they 'shine' in the right light and although black, the lane assist picks them up and follows them straight on, not the temporary lines changing lanes around road works.

 

Also if you have not finished crossing a white line by the time the 'comfort' indicator stops flashing it can tug the wheel a bit in protest

 

It is nothing you cannot override but it can catch you out and give you a surprise. I tend to leave it off

Really surprised by people's bad experience of Lane Assist... I know it's personal preference etc, but in my opinion it's a great thing to have, and makes tedious long distance driving (of which I do a lot!) that bit more bearable.

 

I do admit that sometimes is can be a little dim witted, but 99% of the time it works brilliantly, and in conjunction with ACC makes for a very comfortable motorway driving experience. Again, just my opinion!

Personally, unlike adaptive ACC, which is one of those assist systems I find works really well especially with DSG, I don't find lane assist overly useful.

If it was on it would probably save you if you were incapacitated with a heart attack or something. it would keep you between the white lines and acc or front assist would stop you. I have seen the mess a car makes going through the central reservation after a heart attack.

The problem is it is not really accurate enough, it is too intrusive, and it can sometimes lead you down the garden path (literally)

It can be fooled by other lines. The ones I am wary of are the temporary road works lines where they just black out the original white lines. Often they 'shine' in the right light and although black, the lane assist picks them up and follows them straight on, not the temporary lines changing lanes around road works.

Also if you have not finished crossing a white line by the time the 'comfort' indicator stops flashing it can tug the wheel a bit in protest

It is nothing you cannot override but it can catch you out and give you a surprise. I tend to leave it off

I agree with this, sometimes it will actually push you to the outer edge of the lane. Other times it holds you nice in the centre.

ACC + DSG = amazing assistance system

Lane assist = to intrusive and annoying

Is it possible to, using VCDS, change the amount of times Lane Assist will correct for you when you don't have your hands on the wheel?

Is it possible to, using VCDS, change the amount of times Lane Assist will correct for you when you don't have your hands on the wheel?

No and I wouldn't do it if it did. It is meant as a nudge if you make a mistake WHILE DRIVING, not to self drive the car for you.

 

I would say it is only just about capable of the former and no where near smart enough to do the latter.

I have it but have turned it off.

 

I found it makes the steering feel heavier and is really annoying as it pulls the wheel whilst your holding it.

 

Mine doesn't beep as noted above and mine seems to only have one setting where it is constantly correcting the wheel.

There is an on/off setting on the steering wheel but you have to go into the car settings to change which type of assistance it gives you.

I leave it on most of the time and only turn it off through roadworks where it tries to follow the wrong lines.

Useful on motorways or on the autobahn. Like every thing gadget, it is only an aid.

Standard in the vRS, would I pay almost £400 for it, TBH no way. It's been used twice for 10 mins since I've had the car.

I think really you should try and get yourself an extended test drive for an hour or so. I'd be a bit annoyed at spending almost £400 on something I didn't like and didn't didn't use.

If I'd spent money on it I'd be very sorely disappointed. It doesn't really work and on the way to proving it doesn't seems intrusive.

If you need to rely on it you shouldn't be driving at that point in time

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All those things that directly "assist" driver in steering (I do not mean ABS, ESP or other stability processes running in the background) and actively control speed, braking, car direction, etc are imo dangerous. Not necessarily even in obvious, direct way, but by making driver lazy, less vigilant and compromising driving skills and reactions over time. May be a subtle effect, but a cumulative one I believe. Moreover those things, even if they work well 99.99% of time, there are those "off the spec" situations for them, where conscious / subconscious driver reactions that you develop over time, are the only thing between crash and way out to safety. Those two effects together - losing skills and creating situations where you depend on machine to do driving may together lead to disaster.

Someone not long ago mentioned here an idea of self adapting cruise control/speed limiter with set-point taken from road signs or GPS map. Just imagine GPS errors, wrong signs and/or a car behind you not having such gizmo.

I had a speed limiter once in a car and tested it - another risk if you ask me. Even if it works as designed and disengages with kick-down, that is a fraction of a second you lose...one that could be the decisive. There is no re-doing things when "that moment" happens.

 

There are tons of situations where things can go wrong. I drove cars in last decade intensively (400kkm or so) and in many countries, seen more tragedies than needed.

My idea for driving is - stay alert, develop skills and don't rely on the machine in aspects of direct car control/safety.

I couldn't agree more.  None of theses systems replace the most effective safety system a car has.  A fit and competent driver.  All these driver aids do are create a sense of complacency within the cockpit and if anything reduce the level of alertness of the driver. Just think of all the people who have followed satnavs into rivers or onto railway lines.  Those "accidents" would never have happened if people had read a map and preplanned a route so god knows what some people think they can get away with from a system which they believes keep them slap bang in the centre of their lane!