EU referendum/Brexit discussion - Part 2

[@Lee]

Could be an interesting few days ahead...............
 

 

[shyVRS245]

25 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

Looking good. All going well.

Germany will really be wanting the countries exports into the UK, and they know if the UK can not get exports out and cash money for them paying for exports will be an issue.

Especially German exported and imported to the UK  products like cars and other expensive items.

German Manufacturer vehicles that were built or still are in the UK but are going to start being built in the Netherlands.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842

 

Denmark and the likes of Siemens will be wanting things moving smoothly, as will the pig farmers.

Not bad that lot comes to about £40 billion based upon 2017 figures. More important the wife's Chilean Merlot will still be available at Makro.

[gadgetman]

Fact check the 2020 Lisbon treaty claims

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-47523168

[@Lee]

Just now, gadgetman said:

Fact check the 2020 Lisbon treaty claims

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-47523168

McVey took a right pounding on Twitter for that tweet. Still no apology from a Govt. Minister for spreading lies. 

[lol-lol]

UK can stay part of the EU for another few months if it agrees to the short term membership fee of £1B a month !     It is in the Daily Mail and Torygraph so it must be true.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6793499/EU-charge-Britain-1billion-month-Brexit-delay.html

EU 'will charge Britain £1billion a month' over any Brexit delay if Theresa May is forced to ask for an extension this week

• EU could push for Britain to remain in a customs union as the price for a delay 
• MPs could vote on a postponement this week if Mrs May's deal is defeated again 
• By TIM STICKINGS FOR MAILONLINE  PUBLISHED: 00:43, 11 March 2019 | UPDATED: 07:03, 11 March 2019   

Brussels will demand another £13.5billion in Brexit divorce payments if Theresa May seeks an extension to Article 50, it is claimed.  EU states are said to be 'hardening' their stance against a longer Brexit process and could force Britain to stay in a customs union as the price of agreeing a delay.   MPs could vote on a postponement this week if, as expected, Theresa May's deal is defeated again in the House of Commons tomorrow.  The PM has suggested a three-month delay but EU diplomats will demand more money if the extension is longer than a few weeks, the Daily Telegraph reported. 

An EU source told the newspaper: 'Lines are hardening against extension... Anything more than a few weeks will come with legal and financial conditions attached.'   Brussels could ask Britain to pay an extra £13.5billion a year - £1bn a month -  on top of the current £39bn divorce deal, it is reported. 

[@Lee]

Comedy gold. They write it themselves
I was listening to this this morning and was just struck dumb..........

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Brexiter Tells James O'Brien We Can Solve 'No Border Checks' Issue By Having Border Checks

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/brexiter-tells-james-obrien-we-can-solve-no-border/

[@Lee]

When Farage's team at march to leave registered their domain address, they failed to register the .co.uk domain

http://marchtoleave.co.uk/route.html

[@Lee]

Told ya so.............

 

[CWARD]

2 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Told ya so.............

 

 

That's strange as Sainsburys Sugar Snap Peas country of origin are listed as 

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Grown in Colombia, Egypt, United Kingdom, Ethiopia, Guatemala, India, Italy, Kenya, Mozambique, Peru, Tanzania, USA, Zambia, Jordan

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/gb/groceries/sainsburys-sugar-snap-peas-200g?langId=44&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjpjkBRDRARIsAKv-0O0TXbos4HEjl2AAdZ4fXwHYWO_mdhqKU7S8lQOIUI1cl3yndDPfspUaAm4OEALw_wcB&storeId=10151&krypto=uZnF17IFV5r2JpSBmRCJyJD04ltwzKJoYdrEVpxlPu%2FQ3kZMIIQh0h3u6Ix%2Fqkv%2FC%2BYgQRUEwPICRSQMNiL25ec134Pnr3EfAJ64kQUisw0hx%2Fr2LpWDHHUCDKGCXe%2Fe3FaMqvLGwHTdDnbO7vETvB0hYFaGtDVayHUbsLSG4BygObi0P44m8g7pAWGjZHVqZLDZs4DLkY9jowwBnbTkulqFmuVeeWORoKPSsgjzHLbBMpA5SlwlZtteZq8xSId4Dr5p0LhVmGEB7BkiOgMLkBSSXXDmAMGEV9Ht9DphyQ0%3D&ddkey=https%3Agb%2Fgroceries%2Fsainsburys-sugar-snap-peas-200g

 

Out of the 13 countries listed not including the UK only one is in the EU.

[@Lee]

2 hours ago, CWARD said:

 

That's strange as Sainsburys Sugar Snap Peas country of origin are listed as 

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/gb/groceries/sainsburys-sugar-snap-peas-200g?langId=44&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjpjkBRDRARIsAKv-0O0TXbos4HEjl2AAdZ4fXwHYWO_mdhqKU7S8lQOIUI1cl3yndDPfspUaAm4OEALw_wcB&storeId=10151&krypto=uZnF17IFV5r2JpSBmRCJyJD04ltwzKJoYdrEVpxlPu%2FQ3kZMIIQh0h3u6Ix%2Fqkv%2FC%2BYgQRUEwPICRSQMNiL25ec134Pnr3EfAJ64kQUisw0hx%2Fr2LpWDHHUCDKGCXe%2Fe3FaMqvLGwHTdDnbO7vETvB0hYFaGtDVayHUbsLSG4BygObi0P44m8g7pAWGjZHVqZLDZs4DLkY9jowwBnbTkulqFmuVeeWORoKPSsgjzHLbBMpA5SlwlZtteZq8xSId4Dr5p0LhVmGEB7BkiOgMLkBSSXXDmAMGEV9Ht9DphyQ0%3D&ddkey=https%3Agb%2Fgroceries%2Fsainsburys-sugar-snap-peas-200g

 

Out of the 13 countries listed not including the UK only one is in the EU.

I said last week to expect some shortages did I not?
Is there a delay due to some factor or other? Yes. 
 

[Ryeman]

We demand out-of-season food be imported because we are spoilt also.  It wasn’t always so.

 

During the northern growing season Britain won’t need to import fresh food I assume.

[Skoda_newby]

2 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Told ya so.............

 

 

Of course, nothing to do with those militant French trade unionists causing havoc last week.

 

[@Lee]

4 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

Of course, nothing to do with those militant French trade unionists causing havoc last week.

 

That was exactly my point from last week

[@Lee]

Looking more like BRINO, No Brexit or another extension of A50 by the hour now.
Oh well...................

[@Lee]

More on that Lisbon Treaty nonsense..............
 

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A large number of our readers have asked us to factcheck a list of claims about the Lisbon Treaty, or “what will actually happen if we stay in the EU”, which has gone viral on social media.

https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/

[gadgetman]

16 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

More on that Lisbon Treaty nonsense..............
 

https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/

It's amazing some of the nonsense about the EU some believe and spread. 

 

It's what won the leave vote. Fear. 

 

You could call it 'project fear'

[@Lee]

May not looking happy in Strasbourg right now

https://news.sky.com/watch-live

Junker : this deal or Brexit may not happen at all

May: Sticking to her deal

May: Back her deal

[Ootohere]

'No new negotiations'.    That is it, clear enough.  

[@Lee]

Chances are high her deal will be voted down again IMO.
Attorny General's got his work cut out to go through it all now and report back to MP's before tomorrows voting

[@Lee]

 

[Ryeman]

“legally binding” sounds like a backhander and sop to those who indulge in conspiracies.

[Ryeman]

Well worth the effort  IMOO  -

 

[Ryeman]

What sort of TM negotiations would have no enforceable legal framework in any case ?.

Is this just a word puzzle ?.

[domhnall]

11 hours ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

Of course, nothing to do with those militant French trade unionists causing havoc last week.

 

 

erm they were implementing some of the checks that will be needed post Brexit. Some of them. Not all of them. Yes they were trying to make a point but surely that does us a favour by showing what things are likely to be like in April?

 

[domhnall]

ah these cheeky Australians and their blunt speaking

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/11/former-australian-pm-kevin-rudd-calls-brexit-trade-plan-utter-*******s?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR1lFwjhEF1kMOuGMAX13EErQbcvOjFYMKSBUvOZNM7UyR4MoX7PH4RzqMg