Been looking on & off at downsizing to a CitiGo/Up for a month or two, but nothing has really caught my eye as yet. Locally a dealer has a pre-reg CitiGo Colour edition that is a good saving on the new price, the only issue is it's only the 60PS version. I fancied the 75PS version simply because I do the odd motorway run and thought the 60PS version might run out of puff.

 

Anyone driven both versions for any length of time so know how they compare?

My 60ps does fine, don't know the difference though. They are powerful engines even if they are small, I was surprised.

I have tried both, but bought 60PS version 3 times. I wouldn't pay extra price something which you hardly notice.

Edited 11 November, 20169 yr by Emil

my 60ps is a joy on the motorway, will cruise all day at 80mph 

Cheers, I guess I need to take one for a decent test drive.

my 60ps is a joy on the motorway, will cruise all day at 80mph

Definitely, sometimes seems better than my parents car, a Honda Civic 1.8...

The 60PS has a top speed of over a 100mph.... How much more "puff" would you need?

The 60PS has a top speed of over a 100mph.... How much more "puff" would you need?

LOL..  

 

I mean in gear pull as much as top speed. I bet the new 90PS in the Up has lots of mid range "puff"

You need to rev to over 4,000rpm to benefit from the extra 15PS. Torque curve below 4,000rpm is pretty much identical for both engines and therefore most steady drivers won't notice any difference.

You need to rev to over 4,000rpm to benefit from the extra 15PS. Torque curve below 4,000rpm is pretty much identical for both engines and therefore most steady drivers won't notice any difference.

Ah right, that sounds like the 60PS would probably suit my driving style better. I just wondered whether with it only being a small unit it needed to be kept up the rev range to make progress, and possibly be a bit noisy/busy while at motorway speeds. 

Its not too noisy, it's just the rear wheel arches that can provide the noise, that's when it's very wet... someone did add arch liners to improve it, which I'm sure would have worked.

You do need to plan for steep hills and drop down a cog or two, but in all seriousness it's a cracking little car. My Mrs recently used it to go to wales with 3 kids plus luggage and it handled it no problem.

Have you test driven a Citigo yet?

What's wrong with your Polo 1.2TSi?

If my dad offered to swap my Citigo 75PS for his Polo 1.2TSi I would snap his hand off!!

Have you test driven a Citigo yet?

What's wrong with your Polo 1.2TSi?

 

If my dad offered to swap my Citigo 75PS for his Polo 1.2TSi I would snap his hand off!!

 

I don't want to burden you with my life story, but basically my circumstances have changed. I have some pretty serious and on going heart problems, so it looks like I may not be in a position to work full time again, if at all. (they stopped me driving for a while, and I am now limited to an ordinary car license. I am disqualified from driving anything larger now as my heart is so knackered)  Basically I want something that will be cheap and cheerful to run for the foreseeable future.

 

The Polo, has been a great car, which is partly why I'm asking so many questions about the CitiGo, I know it will be a big step down as such. The Polo is almost too good for my needs now, I only do the hospital or the shopping run so the number of  miles I do over a year is tiny. Mine must be one of the best serviced Polo's in the UK, it's had 5 services in 6 years, (6 in march) and has only done 20,000 miles. It's had an oil change every 4,000 miles, give or take... LOL.   However the Polo is an early Tsi, and cam chain stretch is not unknown at relatively small mileages. Should I keep the car I'd want that done and I think it's in the region of £500-600 quid. It's only really like having the cam belt done, just a little more involved hence the price. But it is money that could go to a new car instead??

 

Dunno really, I'm far from being 100% convinced I'm going to swap, hence the 1001 questions.

 

I've had a quick test drive in a Mii, but that was just around the block, not long enough to get a real feel of the car.

 

Thanks for the replies.

DD

Edited 12 November, 20169 yr by DampDog

I'm sure I read somewhere in the Citigo section that the 60 has slightly higher gearing than the 75.

Maybe a couple of hundred fewer engine revs at 70mph in top gear.

If I have time, I'll look for the post later today.

 

Edit:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/290932-75ps-vs-60-ps/?hl=%2Bgearing#entry3459631  Post #17

Edited 12 November, 20169 yr by Robjon

I'm sure I read somewhere in the Citigo section that the 60 has slightly higher gearing than the 75.

Maybe a couple of hundred fewer engine revs at 70mph in top gear.

If I have time, I'll look for the post later today.

I'm sure I've read that somewhere, it's probably buried in one of the threads in here. Likewise I'll see if I can find it.

The Polo, has been a great car, which is partly why I'm asking so many questions about the CitiGo, I know it will be a big step down as such. 

 

Don't be so sure; I went from a 200bhp Mondeo to my Citigo Monte Carlo and other than overtaking ability and boot capacity I don't miss it at all. The Citigo is fine on motorways and as long as you plan overtaking and use the gears (85 in 3rd!  ) you can make good progress. And it is an absolute hoot in the corners. And cheap as chips to run. 

 

So don't dismiss it so lightly.

Same I dropped down from an Audi A4 with 190bhp, apart from times I'm stuck behind a line of traffic and can't do anything I don't really miss it.

I don't want to burden you with my life story, but basically my circumstances have changed. I have some pretty serious and on going heart problems, so it looks like I may not be in a position to work full time again, if at all. (they stopped me driving for a while, and I am now limited to an ordinary car license. I am disqualified from driving anything larger now as my heart is so knackered)  Basically I want something that will be cheap and cheerful to run for the foreseeable future.

 

Very sorry to hear about your health troubles.

 

I had a life-changing operation a couple of years ago. Spine and spinal nerve problems mean that my sports car driving days are over. The 3-door Citigo with it's wide doors and high seating position make it one of the easiest cars for me to get in and out of, better for me than most SUVs in fact. Only downside is the manual gearbox. My wife's car is our main car and was previously a DSG auto. We have just swapped to a BMW with the 8-speed ZF auto and while the lower seating position makes it a little harder to get in and out of the auto gearbox makes longer journeys much more comfortable and relaxing.

 

The point being, if the budget will allow then do try an ASG or DSG equipped car as you may find that it makes your mobility a little easier or bearable.

Edited 13 November, 20169 yr by ronime

Most of what I've read about the CitiGo/Up confirms that they are a competent little car despite the compact size and merge 60/75PS, engine size. 85 in 3rd must have had the rev-limiter begging for mercy!! I don't really want something I need to rev the nads off. As I've gotten a little older I drive more like my granddad than Lewis Hamilton.

 

Bottom line is I need to make time to get out and have a decent test drive, so I can get a feel for the car. It may well get put on hold until after Christmas now. As I've said Polo is a good little car so I'm not in a rush to swap. I just wanted something that would be cheaper to run in the long term and the Citigo/Up look like they would do the job and still be involving to drive.

 

@ronime

 

Mobility wise I'm OK thanks. If I'm honest I've not considered an Auto as of yet, but I don't dislike them.     

Edited 13 November, 20169 yr by DampDog

60PS is enough as car is light and gearing is spot on. Engine also pulls well around 2000 rpm. You don't have to rev it all the time. But you can if you want, and car likes it. :-)

Sometimes I think which would be my next car. I end up thinking it's going to be Citigo.

To be honest, just don't expect too much after Polo.

Yes, I agree with everyone one else. I have owned both the 60ps and now have the 75ps version, under 4000 rpm there is no difference between the two variants. Above 4000 rpm the rate of acceleration tails off on the 60ps where the 75 keeps going. Under normal driving you won't notice the difference. At 70mph the 60ps is doing 3000 rpm and the 75ps is pulling 3250rpm so the former is slightly more relaxed. I regularly do a 200 mile journey to Cornwall and both variants are fine.

If I was to choose again I wouldn't pay the extra for the 75ps, it's not worth it. Cheers.

I'm pretty happy/confident that the 60 ps and 75 ps model run the same hp from factory, the only difference is how the power is delivered, it's the only explanation I can think of regarding my 60 ps running 77.8 on a dyno last year when stock, my car also has had a remap to '80', I can assure you you do notice the difference on how the power is delivered, however according to the graphs, my standard 60 ps had max power from 5090 - 5370 hp and the remapped '80' ps had max power between 5000 & 5500 rpm, but the torque dropped off midway through the max power of the 80 ps opposed to the 60 ps where the torque dropped off shortly before the max power dropped

Never had an issue in my 60ps citigo. To be honest I drove both and in general use you cannot really tell the difference, the 75ps may have a little more to give higher up the rev range.

Save you money and get the 60ps.

Remapping Is it worth getting it done on a 75bhp city go Monty Carlo and would you notice any difference..they are charging 300euro in. Ireland so it's not cheap.. would really appreciate and advice on this many thanks Frank