Ok, I've had a good search and can't find a post that answers my questions (although there probably is one somewhere  - links welcome). 

 

Aftermarket brakes or OEM?

Pros and Cons for both, and prices too please!?

Pads or pads and discs?

Front only or front and back?

 

Pics would be awesome! 

 

I know ive asked a lot of questions but before I add/upgrade anything else I want to make sure it stops first! 

Exactly what are you trying to achieve??

 

Road, Track, both, what mix, why?????

39 minutes ago, octavia5 said:

Exactly what are you trying to achieve??

 

Road, Track, both, what mix, why?????

 

octavia5, Never had a non-OEM car and although I will probably never take it on the track I like the look of the drilled grooved discs, so I suppose a mix of performance (road) and looks! 

Visit www.vagbremtechnic.com

Edited 3 March, 20179 yr by john999boy
Corrected URL.

See here

 

follow the link!

+1 for Vagbremtechnic, nothing much that Dave Brown doesn't know about VAG group braking

 

AKS use a lot of their stuff, if you want an idea then Alex's thread HERE shows a sensible front and rear upgrade from the standard 340mm/272mm setup.

 

It will depend on:

 

1. What you have already (do you have 340mm or 312mm ftont brakes on your TDi?)

2. What you want to spend

3. Whether you are prepared to change your wheels/add front spacers to clear the brakes (very few, if any, four pot or above clear standard wheels.

4. What you do with it (no good going for a full on track setup then hitting something first press one cold morning because your brakes aren't up to temp)

5. What you like the look of (grooved and especially drilled disks have questionable benefits for road use but only you know what you like the look of)

10 hours ago, 64VRS said:

 

octavia5, Never had a non-OEM car and although I will probably never take it on the track I like the look of the drilled grooved discs, so I suppose a mix of performance (road) and looks! 

They give a lot of rotor noise, I had them with red stuff pads, took a while to bed-in but, from then on they were excellent, very little dust with the red stuff pads.

1 hour ago, flybynite said:

+1 for Vagbremtechnic, nothing much that Dave Brown doesn't know about VAG group braking

 

AKS use a lot of their stuff, if you want an idea then Alex's thread HERE shows a sensible front and rear upgrade from the standard 340mm/272mm setup.

 

It will depend on:

 

1. What you have already (do you have 340mm or 312mm ftont brakes on your TDi?)

2. What you want to spend

3. Whether you are prepared to change your wheels/add front spacers to clear the brakes (very few, if any, four pot or above clear standard wheels.

4. What you do with it (no good going for a full on track setup then hitting something first press one cold morning because your brakes aren't up to temp)

5. What you like the look of (grooved and especially drilled disks have questionable benefits for road use but only you know what you like the look of)

 

1.  Honestly, not sure! Want to say 340mm but could be wrong.  Where would I find out?

2.  I don't have loads of cash to throw at my car but I can save if I need a bit more money.  My brake pads have a few thousand miles on them (from a quick inspection from a trusted local garage) so no rush.

3.  Not looking to change my wheels (yet) so could do with changing my brakes without the need to change my wheels.  Spacers I can't see a problem fitting. 

4.  I don't want or need a full track set up, definitely don't want brakes that need to be warmed up before they work.  Can't be bumping my car, only had my car since end of December last year (2016).

5.  I would like groves and drilled preferably as I want people to know they are upgraded. I'm really looking for improved braking especially with the roadworks and sudden and heavy braking of traffic although it's not that my Skoda brakes aren't good enough! 

 

1 hour ago, themanwithnoaim said:

They give a lot of rotor noise, I had them with red stuff pads, took a while to bed-in but, from then on they were excellent, very little dust with the red stuff pads.

 

I'll definitely look into these, don't mind taking my time to bed them in.  Pretty good with my braking.  How bad is the roar noise and does it go away when bedded in?

2 hours ago, banksie said:

See here

 

follow the link!

 

banksie, thank you for the link! 

And dont forget to inform the insurance company. My local/national chain of brokers has a big notice on the wall stating that you must inform the insurance  company of ANY non standard fitment.

And here is a serious question. A vehicle was involved in an accident, it was chipped, and the insurance investigator found out. If the insurance company was to cancel the insurance would the driver then get done for driving without insurance?

 

13 hours ago, 64VRS said:

 

octavia5, Never had a non-OEM car and although I will probably never take it on the track I like the look of the drilled grooved discs, so I suppose a mix of performance (road) and looks! 

 

The drilled discs don't help except to let out gas from overheating pads. However they have less mass so can act as less of a heatsink.

Grooved disks, clear glazed surface of a pads but also eat them up more quickly as there's that constant removal of a very tiny bit more of pad surface vs OEM.

Again unless you're killing the pads, not worth it IMHO.

 

A friend used to race his atom and stated that most people used OEM or flat disks, then higher performance pads.

 

In my opinion normal discs then get any R90 approved performance pads that you like and that get good reviews.

 

Otherwise just get a set of willwood or brembo calipers and OEM discs.

 

 

Edited 3 March, 20179 yr by cheezemonkhai

The insurance issue is a real one, it used to be assumed that the insurance companies were only interested in performance mods - more power - but now they want to know about every mod you do and non standard discs will definitely stand out from even a quick peruse should you ever be involved in an accident.  So best to talk to your insurance company before you make a decision.

Just to add about the insurance situation. My insurance company were adamant that no modifications from the manufacturers specification whatsoever would be allowed. I wanted to change the wheels and tint the windows but was told, that if I did so, my policy would be immediately invalid. I know that various insurance companies have different attitudes to modifications but you need to check very carefully with your insurers or you could find yourself uninsured. It's probably not a good idea to take a chance and hope you don't have an accident!

Hi,

If you do find you have any issues with insurance at all then please feel free to drop me a line.

Regards,

Dan.