For those that are concerned re security of keyless entry when you are at home.  There is a way of deactivating it on a temporary basis.  If you have downloaded the online manual it is page 58.

 

Lock the vehicle with the (lock) button on the key

 

within 5 seconds touch the sensor on the door handle with your finger

 

deactivation is confirmed by a single flash of the indicators

 

to check deactivation wait at least 10 seconds then pull on the door handle.  The door remains locked

 

Keyless entry is activated again after the door is unlocked using the unlock button on the key

Excellent and timely mention of the Kessy system, particularly with the press going hyper regarding vehicle thefts which are carried out by people who can purchase the equipment on Amazon and Ebay.  This is done by using a piece of kit that can connect to the car key  in the house and then can open the doors and then allows them to start the car.  The question is, having done as womanofkent suggests and deactivated the key, can it still be connected via the electronic box owned by the bad people.  If not, are all cars able to deactivate the keys and if not why not.

Ignoring press hype I'm staying relaxed and enjoying the benefits of keyless without the faff on.

If the worst happens it happens, I always go with the motto life is too short to worry about the ifs, buts and maybes......

I've been keyless for over two years now and wouldn't hesitate in ordering in the future.

Another side to this is abolish keyless and revert to keys and guess what happens...the lowlife will all resort to breaking into houses to steel keys and with a family in the house I'd sooner they just take it off the drive with no fuss if they want it that badly, it's a piece of metal....

We have had keyless entry and start on our vehicles for over 12 years our previous 2 vehicles were both Lexus with keyless entry and start, one of the advantages was that on one of our vehicles we had a tracking device that was connected to the keyless start and if it had been stolen and the police were following, the car could be gradually slowed down and stopped.  I think as more and more cars have had these keyless systems input it is just the criminals catching up.  As you say when there were keys and cars were harder to start without them the thieves were and still are breaking into homes to steal the cars.

 

I only posted this entry as we were told about it by the dealer however he didn't explain it fully and when I tried to deadlock the car I couldn't get it to work so a quick look in the manual and there it was, he just had missed out one vital step when telling me.

Hey, 

 

I'm sure many forum members will appreciate your post so good you took the time to share.

 

Cheers 

 

Handy post, thank you. 

 

Can’t see why all makes can’t apply the same thing. Would bring down insurance a lot I would of thought. 

23 minutes ago, MarcusKaroq said:

Handy post, thank you. 

 

Can’t see why all makes can’t apply the same thing. Would bring down insurance a lot I would of thought. 

 

Possibly but i doubt it as insurance is based on statistics.  If a thief wants your car desparatley enough they'll break into your house for the keys and take the car anyway. Saying that I don't think Skodas are on the hit list but I'm happy to be corrected.

 

I am also a member of a Golf R forum where theft is a hot topic and keyless is always sighted as a weakness and yet every single theft reported on the forum is via a house break in for keys, hence my relaxed attitude to keyless.

Edited 28 April, 20188 yr by Nicky_P

I just bought some cheap key wallets which block off the signal. Only problem is I sometimes forget to take the key out of the wallet and I can’t open the car

With reference to the deactivation of the key there is some not very good news available.  Having been in discussion with a Skoda  dealership and spoken to the tech department it would appear that deactivation of the key does not stop those who wish to steal your car, it just makes it a bit more difficult.  It is possible for them to enter the vehicle without use of the key information.  In the Daily Mail today, BMW are having similar problems.  Why it was necessary to have a half baked system like Kessy is beyond me and many others.

2 hours ago, Channel said:

With reference to the deactivation of the key there is some not very good news available.  Having been in discussion with a Skoda  dealership and spoken to the tech department it would appear that deactivation of the key does not stop those who wish to steal your car, it just makes it a bit more difficult.  It is possible for them to enter the vehicle without use of the key information.  In the Daily Mail today, BMW are having similar problems.  Why it was necessary to have a half baked system like Kessy is beyond me and many others.

 

The temporary deactivation of the keyless entry stops the constant keyless communication between the car and the key.  This then stops some scrote using a signal booster to hijack that communication to gain entry to the car and start it. 

 

The keyless communication starts again when you unlock the car with the fob button so that you can start the engine. 

Edited 30 April, 20188 yr by Englando

41 minutes ago, Englando said:

 

The temporary deactivation of the keyless entry stops the constant keyless communication between the car and the key.  This then stops some scrote using a signal booster to hijack that communication to gain entry to the car and start it. 

 

The keyless communication starts again when you unlock the car with the fob button so that you can start the engine. 

So is that equivalent to putting the key in a signal blocking pouch upon locking the car, or is one method more robust than the other?

Not according to Skoda Tech. it does'nt.  In fact using this scrote equipment they can, given time open the car even if the key was in Fort Knox

10 hours ago, agedbriar said:

So is that equivalent to putting the key in a signal blocking pouch upon locking the car, or is one method more robust than the other?

 

From my understanding temporarily disabling keyless entry is more secure, with the blocking pouch it would depending on the power of the signal booster, and whether the bag is still left near to the corner of the house where the car is parked.  With keyless entry disabled in theory a signal booster will not work at all even if the key is next to the car as there is no single being sent or received from the key fob until you press the button on the fob to open the car.

Got it. Thank you both!

I personally think as law abiding citizens we don't understand what deterrents help and also how far a criminal will go to steal something.  

 

I would like to think that speed would be an issue so if they tried to take your car and it didn't happen quickly enough I would hope (sorry) they would move on to another car that would be easier, having said that in the town about 5 miles from me there was CCTV footage of thieves who over the course of a few hours kept coming to and fro to a BMW where they eventually stole the steering wheel, sat nav and other parts.  The car was on someone's drive, they came with covers that fitted over the door mirrors so that when they set off the alarm which they had previously silenced using expanding foam the indicators wouldn't be seen. They took steering wheels and parts from several BMWs that night on the same housing estate.

 

Interesting to hear what Skoda said as our dealer had told us about the deadlocking (not that we had asked) but to say it stopped them being able to use the signal extenders.

 

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52 minutes ago, Channel said:

Not according to Skoda Tech. it does'nt.  In fact using this scrote equipment they can, given time open the car even if the key was in Fort Knox

Let's be honest if time wasn't an issue ALL cars, houses anything can be broken into, where they aren't bothered about the time they would turn up with a low loader and just lift the car off the street and take it away to slowly break in or just take for parts, who really would question someone in a high viz in the middle of a city removing a car from the street, we'd probably all walk on by assuming they hadn't paid their road tax, owed for parking fines or parked incorrectly.

 

The police have said if you have a Keyless entry then use a steering lock - yes how many of those may be hanging around our garages but where's the key  or did we dump them when immobilisers came in? They can be removed but I think it is just as a deterrent.

 

Thanks to everyone for your comments on my first thread here it is great to hear other's opinions and feedback from Skoda.