7 minutes ago, SashaGrace said:

Unless you are doing mega miles, why get a diesel? I do 25-30k miles a year and I was on the fence, but sided diesel as petrol examples were holding strong on price and I was able to bag my decent spec diesel for about £4-5k less than an equivalent petrol one. If you are planning on mapping for more power, stick to the petrol, it’s a much nicer engine and the DSG does blunt the performance of the diesel further, though the box itself is a lovely unit and makes the car IMO. You can turn the soundaktor off on 2016MY cars through the infotainment but only in Individual mode. If you weren’t hearing it, it has probably been disabled either by unplugging it, via coding.

 

I usually do less that 6000 a year, petrol vRS seem hard to come by for what im after (no older than 2014, preferably no further a field than 75 miles away, ideally blue colour, less than 25k on the clock) thats why when i tired the diesel one today i was quite surprised and started making me think maybe i should be look at diesels as well, as it would be a lot quicker and easier finding what i want.

 

I have found one petrol that almost fits the bill but it has the white stitching inside rather than the red, i was told i was being too anal about it and would never find an exact match for what i want but then i though i have to sit in it all the time and would always nag me if i got the white stitching lol

That’s a tiny mileage, I wouldn’t consider a diesel at all. The complications of DPF’s and the like could end in large bills on a low mileage diesel and the value of them is already falling fast. The right car will come along eventually. FWIW, I have the silver stitching and it’s much nicer than the red haha 

Can only agree, diesel at that mileage doesn't make much sense. Apart from tax and fuel it isn't going to be any cheaper to run. I'm doing 15k a year in my VRS petrol. Oddly the diesel was about 15% more expensive to insure than the petrol when I was on the hunt for mine a couple of years ago.

 

Be prepared to travel if you want the right one, I did a 9 hour round trip to Cambridge for one with the spec, colour and low mileage I wanted.

A common mistake is it isn't the miles you cover but how you cover them, so a tdi may well suit at 6000 miles per annum - if all your driving is over longer distances / where the engine gets up to temp. Even if you don't drive short distances / let the oil get up to working temp, the chances are the previous ownr(s) have. (a 4 year old car with no more than 25k ? That's 6000 miles a year).

 

Agree 100% with Sasha, most folk would advise against a tdi. At 6000 miles/year, the running costs should be pretty similar between tdi and tsi.

Edited 12 June, 20188 yr by Guest

On 18/05/2018 at 17:33, BlockABoots said:

Thanks for the replies, im surprised that the standard 220bhp engine cant be pushed to near 300bhp with a stage 1 remap....is that kind of remap safe over the long time period though (4+ years)?. I know the scooby is around 1430kg so the vRS it almost 300kg lighter so id think even if i mapped to 280bhp the power to weight ratio would be on par with the scooby only thing letting the vRS down is the FWD.

 

How good is the DSG in the vRS, never had a automatic before and always gone manual but im kind of tempted to try an automatic (if i was going diesel i would defo get automatic however). As the vRS has a custom twin tail pipe what option do we have for a different exhaust system for a better sound?.

 

I should point out here that one of the main reasons im not going diesel it just the way diese engines sound can a vRS diesel actually be made to sound good with a new exhaust?.....also swaying me toward petrol is the bad press diesel has got over the last year and thinking about the resell value of a diesel engine cars in the future!

Not sure about 300kg weight saving - 1430kg Subaru and 1370kg quoted previously for VRS? Having owned 5 STI's (classic and bugeye), cant compare. Even my most modern 55 plate STI UK was unrefined in comparison and classic STI RA with lightweight panels and glass, no aircon or ABS and manual windows was just rallycar on the road! Blindingly quick as standard but no refinement whatsoever!!

 

The  18 plate Octavia VRS diesel i have now is good compromise between all angles - performance, refinement, practicality, mpg, costs..... 

 

Might save up for STI RA as weekend toy again though

So went to view a vRS that ticked 90% of the boxes the price seemed to be in the ball park of other vRS but the dealership wasn't willing to hardly budge on the price at all and was only going to knock £100 of the price they had in the window so i decided to walk away.

 

Is this normal for a dealership to put the prices they are actually after on the car ive always though in the past they mark it up at least £500 of what they actually want for the car!?

5 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

So went to view a vRS that ticked 90% of the boxes the price seemed to be in the ball park of other vRS but the dealership wasn't willing to hardly budge on the price at all and was only going to knock £100 of the price they had in the window so i decided to walk away.

 

Is this normal for a dealership to put the prices they are actually after on the car ive always though in the past they mark it up at least £500 of what they actually want for the car!?

 

Depends how well priced it is in the first place? Were you paying cash or did you have a trade in?

Edited 17 June, 20188 yr by ahenners

5 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

So went to view a vRS that ticked 90% of the boxes the price seemed to be in the ball park of other vRS but the dealership wasn't willing to hardly budge on the price at all and was only going to knock £100 of the price they had in the window so i decided to walk away.

 

Is this normal for a dealership to put the prices they are actually after on the car ive always though in the past they mark it up at least £500 of what they actually want for the car!?

Had the same experience with Sparshatts at Botley, had to push really hard to get any movement on cost to change.

With the MIB 1 v 2 the possibility is there for MIB 2 and a 15 plate car its very unlikely but possible as mine was at the dealer for a month waiting for the new plates to come out. (I did have a moment of madness and had a 15 plate but got them to deregister it so mine was a 15 plate MIB 2 for a few hours)

7 hours ago, BlockABoots said:

So went to view a vRS that ticked 90% of the boxes the price seemed to be in the ball park of other vRS but the dealership wasn't willing to hardly budge on the price at all and was only going to knock £100 of the price they had in the window so i decided to walk away.

 

Is this normal for a dealership to put the prices they are actually after on the car ive always though in the past they mark it up at least £500 of what they actually want for the car!?

 

Main dealers don't have the margins they used to have. They make more on Finance, GAP, Paint Protection etc. The approved used car scheme costs the dealers money.

 

Saying I've bought 2 cars from a main dealer this year. One I only managed £250, the other £300 and two free services. Both were cash buys.

 

Lee

2 hours ago, ahenners said:

 

Depends how well priced it is in the first place? Were you paying cash or did you have a trade in?

 

Was going to be paying cash no trade in or finance needed....maybe thats why they were playing hard ball as i didnt need finance!?

5 minutes ago, logiclee said:

 

Main dealers don't have the margins they used to have. They make more on Finance, GAP, Paint Protection etc. The approved used car scheme costs the dealers money.

 

Saying I've bought 2 cars from a main dealer this year. One I only managed £250, the other £300 and two free services. Both were cash buys.

 

Lee

 

The last car i bought from a dealership was back in 2006 time and i managed to get almost £900 off back then so was confident i could get them down at least 400 but sadly not

2 minutes ago, BlockABoots said:

 

Was going to be paying cash no trade in or finance needed....maybe thats why they were playing hard ball as i didnt need finance!?

 

That in itself shouldn't be an issue, though you may have additional leverage with finance as they make commission etc.

 

If it's well priced in the first place and they have had a fair bit of interest, they probably believe they can sell it close to sticker price. With the sudden swing of buying towards petrol and the fact that the petrols sold in less numbers, I suspect dealers are cashing in on the increased demand Vs supply.

Couldn’t you go back and negotiate the price you want to pay with their finance then pay it off within the cooling off period?

2 hours ago, ahenners said:

 

That in itself shouldn't be an issue, though you may have additional leverage with finance as they make commission etc.

 

If it's well priced in the first place and they have had a fair bit of interest, they probably believe they can sell it close to sticker price. With the sudden swing of buying towards petrol and the fact that the petrols sold in less numbers, I suspect dealers are cashing in on the increased demand Vs supply.

 

Yeah thats what i was thinking, if i agreed to finance then they might have been more willing to give me more off as they would be getting commission.

 

As i said it seems to be in the ball park of others ive seen on Autotrader (but its always hard to gauge as one might be newer but done a few more miles and vise versa) but then the other sellers might be willing to negotiate more than what i was other from this dealership, i mean £100 when your talking of money in the region of 16k is hardly nothing really.

 

 

21 minutes ago, KevC_Derby said:

Couldn’t you go back and negotiate the price you want to pay with their finance then pay it off within the cooling off period?

 

Not sure, i know i was told they use VW finance as i was asking if there was any interest free periods of the agreement (so i could pay it off straight after the period ended) but was told they have no leeway with the finance as it comes direct from VW.

 

What is this cooling off period you talk about?

Edited 17 June, 20188 yr by BlockABoots

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-credit-act

 

Your right to withdraw from a credit agreement

In addition to the five-day cooling off period, you have a 14 day cooling off period in which to change your mind and cancel a credit agreement. 

You have to repay the amount borrowed along with any interest that’s accrued up to the point at which you cancel. 

There are some agreements that can't be cancelled, for example where the amount of credit exceeds £60,260 and for agreements secured on land.

The 14-day cooling-off period starts from the day the agreement is concluded or if later, from when you receive a copy of the agreement. 

For credit card the 14-day cooling off period starts from when you receive notification of your credit limit.

While the credit agreement can be cancelled, the contract for the item or service itself won't be affected so if you used credit to finance the purchase of a car you would need to find some other way to pay for it unless you have some other right to cancel that contract.

Im looking at a vRS and noticed it doesnt appear to have sat nav, is this something that can be retro fitted or is it locked to a certain head unit?

Nav can be retrofitted by changing the head unit though it’s a bit more complex than you might like. I had an easy time of it, but others are not so lucky. Check my thread here.

 

The install starts on this page (11) and is finished on page 17 and then the new screen is installed on page 24.

 

Skoda dealers do offer a nav install for the MIB1 Bolero made by Kenwood if you don't want to change the stereo which is easier to install and is all sorted by your dealer but you’d lose the extra screen size and SmartLink that you would get with a newer stereo. The MIB2’s also sound better, have a nicer UI and are faster

2 hours ago, SashaGrace said:

Nav can be retrofitted by changing the head unit though it’s a bit more complex than you might like. I had an easy time of it, but others are not so lucky. Check my thread here.

 

The install starts on this page (11) and is finished on page 17 and then the new screen is installed on page 24.

 

Skoda dealers do offer a nav install for the MIB1 Bolero made by Kenwood if you don't want to change the stereo which is easier to install and is all sorted by your dealer but you’d lose the extra screen size and SmartLink that you would get with a newer stereo. The MIB2’s also sound better, have a nicer UI and are faster

 

Thanks, yes that does seem a hassle, what with getting it coded and what not. I was just hoping i could buy a newer unit (with larger screen) and just plug and play.

 

As you thread has a lot of pages what are the main steps you had to do in fitting the MIB2?...and how come you then replace it with another large screen unit? (page 24)

It’s not that bad if you do it this way, just a bit of waiting around. You can buy pre coded units, but I would stick to getting one from the guy who coded mine and ideally you would either need VCDS for an auto scan or you’ll need to send him both radios so he can get the coding right.

 

To start with you’ll need to find a radio, a screen and a USB plug. I bought an Amundsen radio, USB plug and 6.5 inch screen from a 2016 Scout that had been in an accident. This was installed in the car which is plug and play once you’ve shaved down a couple of locater clips and then it went to Skoda to have the Component Protection removed and the final step is sending it to Poland to have the coding to reactivate the SmartLink, Nav and voice commands done.

 

It was always my intention to upgrade to the 8 inch screen either using an FL one or a Columbus one, which was what I chose in the end. A screen is just a screen, no CP to worry about, and the 8 inch screen can be fitted to any MIB2 unit as they all run 480x800 resolution.