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Anyone know if its possible to have the rear lights on when only the daytime running lights are on. 

Yes - just a quick tweak with a diagnostic tool.

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Thanks for the reply BGB. I'll take it back to the dealer when I get the time. I think it's always good to have rear lights on, especially at this time of year. Didn't think about when I collected the car as I assumed it would have been set up that way. 

I doubt that the dealer will actually be able to do that though so you'd be better off asking a local VCDS member. :thumbup:

If this is an official Skoda dealership they will have no problem doing this.

 

However if you finds someone with VCDS it may be cheaper or even free. 

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Dealer is a cousin....... He'll do it for free. Trust me! 

On 07/12/2018 at 15:00, ElliottLW said:

Incorrect info removed

 

Does that turn on number plate lights and dash lights as well?

 

The above wouldnt be what I would expect to see to just activate rear lights as DRLs.  

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On 07/12/2018 at 16:30, SC03OTT said:

 

Does that turn on number plate lights and dash lights as well?

 

The above wouldnt be what I would expect to see to just activate rear lights as DRLs.  

 

No you're right, I've completed this using:

 

1 - Module 09 - Electronic control unit. Code (31347) 
2 - Adaptation 
3 - Leuchte23SL HLC10
4 - Lichtfunktion D23 - (Change value to Tagfahrlicht ) 
5 - Dimmwert CD23 - (Change value to 100 ) 
6 - Dimming direction CD 23 - (Change value to Maximize ) 
7 - Leuchte24SL HRA65
8 - Lichtfunktion D24 - (Change value to Tagfahrlicht ) 
9 - Dimmwert CD24 - (Change value to 100) 
10 - Dimming direction CD24 - (Change value to Maximize ) 

 

I'll remove my previous post to avoid any future confusion (turns out you cannot edit aged posts)

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4 hours ago, ElliottLW said:

I'll remove my previous post to avoid any future confusion (turns out you cannot edit aged posts)

 

You can if you're a Freedom member.

 

P.S. I've removed it for you. :thumbup:

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On 07/12/2018 at 16:30, SC03OTT said:

 

Does that turn on number plate lights and dash lights as well?

 

The above wouldnt be what I would expect to see to just activate rear lights as DRLs.  

I have just had this done at the dealership and confirm it doesn’t turn the number plate light or dash lights on.

It’s a feature which my wife has on her Pug 2008 and wonder why other manufacturers don’t do it...... a simple safety feature?

Turning on Front and rear Position lights including Rear Number Plate lights and dipped Headlights in low light and poor Visibility is a Safety Feature.

 

Those with just front DRLs on or even rear when they should be lighting up is not Safe, just lazy drivers or ones that maybe should not be on the road.

Daytime / Daylight running lights are for good light days / sunlight days.

 

Volvo 'Dim Dip Headlights' and other manufacturers that did those lights were a perfect 'Daytime Running Safety Feature for the UK IMO. 

1 hour ago, Skoffski said:

Volvo 'Dim Dip Headlights' and other manufacturers that did those lights were a perfect 'Daytime Running Safety Feature for the UK IMO. 

 

I had those on a late 80's Escort, perfect, but the EU didn't like for some reason and they were outlawed...…..I still have a Lucas Dim-Dip module sitting in my garage, so disappointed was I that the system had been removed I bought it to fit to my Fiesta Diesel in 92 but never got around to it.

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On 14/01/2019 at 10:08, Berisford said:

 

I had those on a late 80's Escort, perfect, but the EU didn't like for some reason and they were outlawed...…..I still have a Lucas Dim-Dip module sitting in my garage, so disappointed was I that the system had been removed I bought it to fit to my Fiesta Diesel in 92 but never got around to it.

 

My understanding is that the EU didn’t like it due to the extra energy usage that would be resultant from all vehicles constantly having incandescent DRLs active. It makes sense. Individually, a few tens of watts extra is nothing but if you multiply that by tens of millions of vehicles it becomes a more significant consideration. Efficiency trumped visibility. 

 

With a switch to LED based systems, that argument is far more difficult to stand by.

7 hours ago, Stevieweevie said:

 

My understanding is that the EU didn’t like it due to the extra energy usage that would be resultant from all vehicles constantly having incandescent DRLs active. It makes sense. Individually, a few tens of watts extra is nothing but if you multiply that by tens of millions of vehicles it becomes a more significant consideration. Efficiency trumped visibility. 

 

With a switch to LED based systems, that argument is far more difficult to stand by.

According to the national Traffic Law in Finland the rear lights can be on with the DRL's. Skoda Finland has a process that all Skodas are coded that way.  Rear lights were on in our Yeti 2012, Octavia 2015 and now Karoq 2019.

10 hours ago, Stevieweevie said:

 

My understanding is that the EU didn’t like it due to the extra energy usage that would be resultant from all vehicles constantly having incandescent DRLs active. It makes sense. Individually, a few tens of watts extra is nothing but if you multiply that by tens of millions of vehicles it becomes a more significant consideration. Efficiency trumped visibility. 

 

With a switch to LED based systems, that argument is far more difficult to stand by.

 

I don’t remember the official EU line other than the UK system wasn’t theirs so it had to go.........thing is, your understanding Is not quite how it was at the time inasmuch as the UK preference was not a DRL system, it was introduced to prevent the great number of dumbos running around on parking lights, that is, the ‘dimdip’ only came on when the parking lights were used whilst the engine was running.......the EU system forced 24/7 DRLs on us.......plus, at the time and for many years all DRLs were ‘incandescent’ and indeed still are on some motors.

 

On a separate but connected note, those H15 bulbs fitted to much of the VW group in the early days of compulsory DRLs (certainly my Golf and T5) are a nightmare, constantly failing on the 5w DRL side and at £20 a pop, thanks VW & EU.

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2 hours ago, Berisford said:

 

I don’t remember the official EU line other than the UK system wasn’t theirs so it had to go.........thing is, your understanding Is not quite how it was at the time inasmuch as the UK preference was not a DRL system, it was introduced to prevent the great number of dumbos running around on parking lights, that is, the ‘dimdip’ only came on when the parking lights were used whilst the engine was running.......the EU system forced 24/7 DRLs on us.......plus, at the time and for many years all DRLs were ‘incandescent’ and indeed still are on some motors.

 

My understanding was based off of articles I read, including a .GOV covering DRLs.

 

AA website source https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/daytime-running-lights

 

2006 European Commission study:

 

"The Commission’s study suggested a lot of casualties could be prevented across the EU with a positive benefit-to-cost ratio, once the costs of fitting lamps and the environmental cost of running them was taken into account."

 

.GOV Website https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/daytime-running-lights/daytime-running-lights#evidence

 

"Research has shown that DRLs are likely to reduce multiple vehicle daytime accidents and fatalities by up to 6% once all vehicles are equipped. DRL are likely to result in a small increase in fuel consumption and CO² emissions of around 0.5% but this is expected to be lower when LEDs are used in place of filament light sources."

 

I have emboldened the text which makes reference to an environmental / energy use / emission consideration. These parts, to me, suggest strongly that the environmental impact of the system was a key part in decisions made. As you say, at the time most all systems would have been a filament bulb. I understand the difference between DRL and dim-dip systems, but the safety element between is conceptually the same. So I don't feel my understanding is not quite how it was.

 

 

They (the EU) might well have considered the environmental / energy use / emission consideration as you put it in their 2006 DRL study but my points relate to a time 20 years earlier before LED's and the environment, specifically the Dim-dip system used as on such as my 1987 Escort.

 

The system was deleted on vehicles built just a couple of years later because of EU 'harmonisation' rules, nothing to do with the environment.....in fact very few people knew (or know) anything about 'dim-dip' as it had such a short exposure.

 

At the time the demise was lamented on account of it stopping the practice of driving around on just sidelights, a dodgy practice that is still with us today...…….thanks to the EU.

 

DIM DIP and DRLs are not the same thing.

My parents 2004 (54) Nissan Navara was still fitted with dim/dip headlights.

 

Similar to this...

 

Image result for 2004 nissan navara

Hmmm.........Ford complied almost immediately to the 1988 EC directive to abandon DimDip.......curious that Nissan were still fitting ‘em in 2004.

 

They only sold it a few months ago, the "bright sidelights" were the one thing she misses on the new Qashqai :D

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