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So these are my old plugs which have covered 38,000 miles they seem ok to me ( but i know nothing lol) but factory so glad i swapped them out. 

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    Your dealer seems to display the same competences as ours did, and that means the outcome can go two ways. It can work for or against you.   For the test, the dipstick and cap need to be sea

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    Danny, I've been following your travails within the mk2 vrs owners facebook page and saw the video appear with the flashing gear number. You've been unfortunate enough to have bought a real pig in the

  • If your plugs are fubar'd then that could explain the rubbish MPG......this I would advise is sorted first.   If you dont know if the filter has been changed, then do that to.    

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@GT0161   How do you know they have covered 38,000 miles without you have had the car for 38,000 miles.

The Spark Plug type fitted change in 2011, which are these?

 

If it had a Major Service at 4 years old (2015), so a 2nd Major Service, the Spark Plugs should have been changed then.

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@Skoffski no mention of plug changes in service book and also vag stamped on plugs so i presume they are factory 

 

 

Edited by GT0161

No they are OEM as used at services at Main Dealers, which are as get fitted at the factory.

No way are those original from 2011.

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Well whoever has done servicing hasnt stamped the service book which is not good. 

On 14/02/2019 at 10:14, RAPTURE said:

Thanks for the advice, did not know about the oil filter, maybe a Mahle one any good?.  I may give that oil a shot, also I hear good things about Motul oil for our engines, can confirm?.  Cheers.

 

My son had a 2011 Bocanegra, initially it too was an oil user, using almost a litre over the course of a thousand miles. Fortunately for him, by the time he bought his we were already well into mk2 vRS ownership and suggested he service the car and change to Denso spark plugs, mahle oil filter and 5w40 fs oil as recommended to ourselves by Offski on here.

 

After the service using these parts, the oil use stopped with only the occasional top up required if any between servicing, and it's fair to say his wee car was hard driven. He no longer has the car, filling his trousers when our DSG went on the Fabia and he realised he was approaching high 50 odd thousand miles mark. Hopefully someone picked it up because it is a good one.

1 hour ago, Sittingbull said:

After the service using these parts, the oil use stopped with only the occasional top up required if any between servicing, and it's fair to say his wee car was hard driven. He no longer has the car, filling his trousers when our DSG went on the Fabia and he realised he was approaching high 50 odd thousand miles mark. Hopefully someone picked it up because it is a good one.

My dsg packed in a couple of months back. Glad I got it repaired but it cost around £3200. Still loving the car though!

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@jamie6210 what mileage did your dsg go at ? 

My DSG had a little wobble a while back:

 

DSG wobble

 

Thankfully it was a one-off and didn't manifest again.

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On 19/02/2019 at 12:37, jamie6210 said:

My dsg packed in a couple of months back. Glad I got it repaired but it cost around £3200. Still loving the car though!

 

Ours cost £3200 a year ago, done at main dealer but a complete fiasco, one that has led to my wife declaring "there will never be another car sitting at my door with a Skoda badge on it", such was her level of discontent with dealer and Skoda UK. In fact she extends the sentiment to VAG, which is a sore one for me as my buying history has tended to be dominated by VAG cars.

 

On 19/02/2019 at 15:30, GT0161 said:

@jamie6210 what mileage did your dsg go at ? 

 

Our DSG went at 66,000 miles, just shy of 6 years old. Ours never had any service action work done, we were told 3 times we didn't need it doing. Then the dreaded flashing white spanner appeared in the PRNDS area of the dash, and was twice misdiagnosed by Skoda main dealers as being the symbol for an "Inspection Service, that only they could reset". 

 

Despite our protestations that we didn't think this was the correct symbol for a service we were advised it would be safe to drive until the Inspection Service. Days later, the true meaning of the flashing white spanner became all too clear, it was the symbol alerting us to a major gearbox issue, in our case the internal fluid was leaking out due to a failure of the pump within the mechatronic unit, reducing required pressure from min 40 bar to zero, rendering the car immovable.

 

And judging by Nortonpuch post on another thread, the issue was one that SUK knew about but declined to advise their dealerships about, they did know from previous experience that these units failed, they also knew of the flashing white spanner but allowed dealers to give out incorrect information when queried, and worse still, seemed to know the date when the cars being built were leaving the factory with correct oil in gearbox, ours being earlier and yet advised not required.

 

For all that, these are good wee cars. Ours has served us well. It's practical being a small petrol automatic, easy to insure and tax, decent economy if you're not pushing it along yet still able to provide smiles per mile when you are.

On 19/02/2019 at 15:30, GT0161 said:

@jamie6210 what mileage did your dsg go at ? 

54,500 bit of a bummer but all good for now. 62 plate so was just 6 years old when it got done

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Surely "overall" this has got be down to the oil not being on the service schedule...ie one of those "filled for life" bull s...t statements..

 

Looking at it it's simple enough to do and the tools are available. Something to add to the normal servicing in my opinion.

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My car has had the 347f dsg fix but im guessing will probably still go around the 50-60k mark hopefully i will have something different by then. 

 

 

So after changing my plugs the initial idle is  extremely lumpy it actually feels like a misfire? How can i diagnose the lumpy start up im sure i read that cylinder four doesnt get wnough fuel due to pressure? Is this true whats the best way to rectify this issue somebody stated change the temp sensor??  

Help is as always welcomed

regards

GT 

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Also since topping up the oil with correct oil i have had no oil burn checking twice a week 

i have driven quite mildy with odd boost here n there on the national speed limit a roads 

 

My oil consumption test is due on the 27th shall i even bother or not? 

 

Gaving to take half day off work to have it done 

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9 hours ago, GT0161 said:

My car has had the 347f dsg fix but im guessing will probably still go around the 50-60k mark hopefully i will have something different by then. 

 

 

So after changing my plugs the initial idle is  extremely lumpy it actually feels like a misfire? How can i diagnose the lumpy start up im sure i read that cylinder four doesnt get wnough fuel due to pressure? Is this true whats the best way to rectify this issue somebody stated change the temp sensor??  

Help is as always welcomed

regards

GT 

 

The problem you are encountering could be down to a lack of compression in one or more cylinders, not the first time that this has happened with these engines.

 

9 hours ago, GT0161 said:

Also since topping up the oil with correct oil i have had no oil burn checking twice a week 

i have driven quite mildy with odd boost here n there on the national speed limit a roads 

 

My oil consumption test is due on the 27th shall i even bother or not? 

 

Gaving to take half day off work to have it done 

 

As above, if you have a lack of compression, then further investigatory work will be required to establish the cause including which cylinder(s) is/ are affected. So it is worth having the oil consumption test done, some dealers do it over 300 miles while some allow longer. Offski has posted in other threads covering the procedure, another on which there's little to no consistency between dealerships.

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@Sittingbull thank you another worrie oh god i love this car... 

 

no i really do i just wish it was built properly. 

 

After reading about the dsg On here i have actually noticed a judder in first from setting off its happend two or three times today! Maybe it's in ny head we shall see. 

 

Also yesterday i had to make a nippy exit out of a junction (other speeders!) but it just literally went dead then power kicked in like on a bike when too much air sucks in it cut out that instant it juddered me and my partner forward (always wear you belt) 

 

Edited by GT0161

Put the Traction Control 'off' if you do not want power cut.

10 hours ago, GT0161 said:

@Sittingbull thank you another worrie oh god i love this car... 

 

no i really do i just wish it was built properly. 

 

After reading about the dsg On here i have actually noticed a judder in first from setting off its happend two or three times today! Maybe it's in ny head we shall see. 

 

Also yesterday i had to make a nippy exit out of a junction (other speeders!) but it just literally went dead then power kicked in like on a bike when too much air sucks in it cut out that instant it juddered me and my partner forward (always wear you belt) 

 

 

On reading your post again, I just wanted to clarify a couple of points based on our experience of ownership of our vRS and my son with his Ibiza Cupra Bocanagra, which of course uses same engine and gearbox as the vRS.

 

These wee engines on initial start up do rev at around 1100rpm for around a minute or so before settling to idle at 800rpm or thereabouts. On start up at 1100rpm these can feel a bit lumpy at times if perhaps spark plugs were needing changed, but this would manifest itself elsewhere as well aside from initial start up. It is not unknown for coil packs to fail on these either, but if you start chasing one thing after another without a proper diagnostic then it could expensive quickly without resolution.

 

Richard's Bocanegra was one that did need the coolant temp sensor changing, he needed to do it twice as the EBAY shop one he bought didn't resolve it, but the original part bought from TPS did. To all the world his looked like he was needing battery changing, as it seemed a little lazy with a cough prior to starting up, but changing the coolant temp sensor did help.

 

As for the DSG, a bit of notchiness between first and second can be fairly common on these without necessarily spelling trouble, just make sure it does go up and down gears smoothly enough in all modes and that you have no warning lights such as flashing spanners. 

 

 

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@Skoffski it wasnt like lack of power it was just instantly nothing. Maybe too much throttle just brought the tcs in but never happened before. 

 

 

@Sittingbull

 

thank you i thi k i will change the temp sensor for peace of mind and see if it settles 

 

goes through the gears nice its very limited to how many timex its happened 

 

but thank you for your reply 

 

it really does help me out a hell of a lot 

 

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Had my oil consumption test done today, i was under the impression they do 100miles before giving the car back? 

 

It cost me £116 for a oil change basically 

 

Its done 1 mile not 100 

 

also told to return it in 186.3 miles 

how is that fair? 

 

Anyway i will post the results in 186 miles, 

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they keep pestering me for timing and waterpump i said its a chain it wont need doing they said it will need servicing still? 

 

£486 for belt and pump ? But mines a chain i dont get it 

 

i specifically asked for 5w/40 oil 

i hope thats whT they used 

 

 

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186miles is 300km, more or less, so that is being used as the unit of measure for the oil consumption test. Don't take a long drive to get the distance over, as that is likely to be the time when the car uses the least oil. Depending on what you want to achieve, drive it as you normally would - or do lots of short trips....

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@OzFabia cheers mate 

i do mostly very short journeys to the van for work in morning and some mild journeys mixed in 

thank you. 

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Also since getting my car back from skoda the car feels so much better/responsive 

gears feel a lot smoother 

so im guessing its had an ecu/gearbox update?? 

 

Last time it was at skoda was 2014 

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I guess it might have had something.....

So is the oil filler cap and dipstick sealed.   So that you can not actually check how much oil they have in.  

& also not cheat.

 

Some Oil Consumption tests are 'Cheated' cheated or done be incompetents.

 

 

£116 is the first part and all it should cost.

 

New Oil & Filter in. 

Up to operating temperature and oil dropped and weighed.   1 mile is not far enough.  the oil was not even at 50*oC.

It allowed then to check where it was on the dipstick though.

 

So now drive 186 miles, and they should drop the oil weigh it and then put back in the engine and top up as required.

 

So i look forward to the report.

Oil weight dropped today, and dropped in 186 miles or so.

 

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@Skoffski cheers mate 

just a quick one the lady was suggesting i get my cam belt and waterpump done i said its a chain she said it will still need doing is this right? 

 

I dont beleive so? 

 

Will have covered 186 in about a week or two will tag you bud. 

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