Hi

I've been running a Fabia Greenline Estate for about 8 years with hardly any trouble (only failures have been alternator-failure-after-49k-and-5-years which was cheap to DIY repair, broken aircon, and occasional slow punctures). However I'm now thinking it's time for a change.

The Fabia has been super economical (I used to be able to see 90+MPG on slowish A-roads and, at 75k miles, can still get an indicated 70 MPG sometimes, my "2" MPG is typically low ~60s) but is pretty dull in almost other ways.

 

I'm looking for similar or better luggage space (for 3 person holidays), sensible though not Greenline levels of fuel economy, much better tech (I'm fed up with having a Sat Nav floating around the dash), probably an auto gearbox since they seem so smooth these days without much of a cost penalty, possibly 4x4 so I've less chance of getting stuck on grassy campsites, and reliability that I can keep it for 5-10 years (which also probably means petrol since you can imagine future governments punishing diesel owners over that timespan).

 

I've been tempted by some more exotic small & mid-size SUVs (in my heart, an F-PACE), but my sensible mind is saying the Karoq. Then I start reading comments about kangarooing, auto stop-start (which is probably good for certain types of queuing but I'm pretty sceptical about otherwise), tech issues (not sure this affects Karoq but seems to affect most modern cars), keyless entry security issues (I don't see any real need for keyless entry) and so on. I would probably buy dealer-used to take the edge off the depreciation (OK so the Karoq is pretty new so not so much there).

 

So this is a general question for thoughts about the Karoq, e.g. after 6 month's ownership?

TIA!

Check the deal on used.. because unless you are paying cash... the discounts and the finance insentives from the dealer may mean its cheaper to buy new than nearly new.

 

You wont get that level of fuel consumption... not sure how you got it anyway...

 

Not sure they will punish Diesel drivers in the next 5 to 10 years.. on cars sold... they may make it more unattractive for new vehicle sales... but history would show that in general - punishment is only for that point in time on for new sales... 

 

 

I got a new Karoq 2.0TDi 4 x 4 DSG Edition - with over 3K off list price and an additional £1950 deposit contribution.. so nearly a £5,000 saving on a new car (not pre reg)

 

No issues with DSG or 2. TDI 4x4 that I am aware of...

 

Everything else on the car will be as reliable as the car components... and all manufacturers purchase from most of the same component suppliers...

 

That's my 2 cents..

 

 

 

 

Fuel consumption: not using the throttle & lots of coasting (if you read back on some old posts... trying to improve the fuel economy is what counts as fun in a Greenline ). I can also fit in a 3m tube, corner to corner, which has been handy for DIY projects. Anyway, when you do the sums if you have a reasonably new car the depreciation dwarfs fuel consumption unless you're doing a v high mileage.

 

Yes, I fancy a 1.5 TSI DSG 4x4. On the configurator a Karoq SE L with options I'm tempted by was just over £30k compared to used at ~£20k for lower spec FWD or £25k+ for 4x4. With 10% discount you might as well get a longer warranty and the colour/spec you want.

 

Thanks for the input!

No regrets.

I have the 2 wheel drive  1.5 petrol SEL

DSG . 4 months and 4000 miles,no issues. Smooth and quiet with ample performance.

It's my first car with an auto box and I don't think I would buy another car without it to use as a daily drive.

Forums by nature tend to highlight issues some people have and rightly so but I would hazard a guess that a lot of owners have no problems.  Test drive and work out the spec you want. Have fun !

No regrets here, love it!

Had my 1.5 TSi Edition DSG for almost 9 months and 6k miles of excellent trouble free motoring - no regrets whatsoever !

Edited 28 April, 20197 yr by JKW

Taking mine for its first service at just over 9k.

 

Only regret the lack of MPG, I had a green line Octavia diesel which easily gave me 60mpg but now with modified driving style I get an average of around 40mpg.

 

It has meant I drive slower 65 mph on motorway and 45 mph local roads (mostly signed max of 50 in my area). This more relaxed speed is no bad thing imo.

 

The car is a dsg built early 2018 and is a bit juddery at low speed when first started.

 

The great bits are the dsg. I have always driven manual and dsg makes it easier and I guess I won't go back to manual. Add to that adaptive cruise control, traffic assistant and the fantastic parking camera I have no regrets. But if you are a mpg purist then the aero dynamic brick is not for you.

 

 

4 hours ago, MJ1 said:

Taking mine for its first service at just over 9k.

 

Only regret the lack of MPG, I had a green line Octavia diesel which easily gave me 60mpg but now with modified driving style I get an average of around 40mpg.

 

It has meant I drive slower 65 mph on motorway and 45 mph local roads (mostly signed max of 50 in my area). This more relaxed speed is no bad thing imo.

 

The car is a dsg built early 2018 and is a bit juddery at low speed when first started.

 

The great bits are the dsg. I have always driven manual and dsg makes it easier and I guess I won't go back to manual. Add to that adaptive cruise control, traffic assistant and the fantastic parking camera I have no regrets. But if you are a mpg purist then the aero dynamic brick is not for you.

 

 

A lot of 'SUV' do have bad aero but the Karoq is supposed to be about 0.34, which is actually quite good for the type. 

 

Still have not made my mind up yet! Although, the wipers are the noisiest I have ever had in a car, and that includes my Ford Aglia 105E.

@Livrishind Ford Angular.........That's a blast from the past, Lol.

 

My dad had one when i was a kid.

Edited 29 April, 20197 yr by Tilt

1 hour ago, Tilt said:

@Livrishind Ford Angular.........That's a blast from the past, Lol.

 

My dad had one when i was a kid.

 

Ford Anglia. Crazy rear window. Remember it well. 

13 minutes ago, OldKaroq said:

 

Ford Anglia. Crazy rear window. Remember it well. 

 

A certain coloured  Bull  would be jealous of the rear 'wings', Lol. 

Over 3k miles with 1.5 sel DSG since Oct 2018. No problems at all. Nice car, generally getting 46 to 48 mpg, albeit mostly used on 90 mile trips. If buying check you can get comfortably in the driving seat, note the electric seat option has more adjustment than the standard (SEL) version.

Hmmm that is a regret not getting the electric seat... Just such a pain adjusting after my wife adjusts it for her to drive...

Hi, I bought a new Karoq SE L in January this year. It has the 1.5 petrol engine and a DSG gearbox. Although I have only done 1500 miles so far I have no regrets at all. The DSG gearbox is a joy and fuel consumption not bad either. The car is white metallic but to be honest it is only in certain light that you can tell that it is metallic. I particularly like the steering which is light and progressive so it is easy to park. I am not keen on the stop/start system and tend to have it switched off. Hope that helps.

I got my Karoq on 28th Feb 2018, It's a 1.0 litre DSG SE Tech in Skinflint Blue. I've covered 7k miles with no faults, it doesn't use oil, gives mid to high 40's MPG. It is capable but boring. My only usage complaint is the stop/start system combined with a DSG is lethal on busy roundabouts, so it is disabled as soon as I start the car. Other than that, it is what it is, consumable automotive white goods. It isn't a distinctive as a Yeti, it could be any manufacturers faux four by four SUV.

Hi again. Been away from the forum for a while. Diesel SE-L, dsg- new in September 2018. Just coming up to 3,500 miles. 80% urban, rest on motorways.

Proven 50.7mpg. Brim to brim- as accurate as possible  with the automatic stop when filling up. Incidentally no point in carrying a spare can of diesel as the spout won't open the filler flap. VW sell an adapter for a tenner- which is about eight litres worth.

Run in Eco mode and with stop/start active. Not a problem in traffic if you anticipate  the moving off. Tyre and tarmac-so no danger of rear ending him ahead. Release footbrake and it will gently creep forward as the engine starts. Don't floor it from a standing start, it's not a torque converter auto so heavy acceleration is like a learner bouncing off the clutch pedal.

Pro's. High stance, easy access. Automatic gearbox. Economy. Nice colour in metallic grey. Cruise control and speed limiter ok. Brakes powerful and progressive.

Cons. Some gadgetry too clever by half. Still havn't got my head round some of it, and some of what's promised is not on this model.  Automatic braking with a sudden red runway light on the dashboard was a surprise.

Been spoiled by the old Citroen so find it not that comfortable, characterless, a bit like driving a Transit. Navigation system not as good as a Garmin mobile unit. Bluetooth phone works well. Boot smaller than expected. Lumpy ride, though potholed roads don't help. I may lower the tyre pressures a bit. Discovered that the automatic daylight running lights only work on the front so I switch to sidelights all round.

Think I'd have to make more rest stops than in the old Citroen on our four hundred miles a day Continental trips.

Has been back to dealer once due to rattling tailgate which took longer than it should to fix.

Reliability is king in my book so I have to say I like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. One of the best equipped and great value for money cars we've ever bought.

While the wife is in Kenya sorting out family stuff I decided to give my Octavia a 3 week rest (it deserves it) and have been enjoying the tranquility and serene comfort of her 1.5Tsi manual SEL Karoq. It is indeed fine value and very well equipped for the £23,500 we paid for it new 15 months ago. Having driven over 300 miles recently in it am always impressed by it's performance/economy having achieved 51,53,56,57 & 59mpg on the last 5 journeys and averaging 56mpg on this tank. Current mileage 14,999 and wouldn't swap it for any of it'ds competitors. Even the kangaroo stuff in 1st gear seems to have gone away (touch wood).

Great, thanks for all the replies everyone! Think I'd better take one out for a test drive...

Drove through North Yorkshire at the weekend around the Whitby area. My first 1.5 TSI DSG. Some delay in changing down when going up steep hills, and over revving of the engine, around 3.5 to 4 thousand revs when going down hill. I would have felt much more in comfortable driving my old 1.8 TSI manual Octavia Scout around these roads. Has anyone else experienced this? Or am I not driving DSG correctly?

You always have the option to put it into manual if its not doing something you like - down hill..

 

But typically they do stay in a lower gear with the revs up - but no fuel - to maximise engine braking on steep down hills.

 

Just lightly touching the throttle will make it change up a gear. (where its safe to do so)

Picked my 1.5 TSI DSG 4x4 up today and went for a 140 km errand on the way home. Smooth accelerations and an overall pleasure to drive, not a bit worse than the pre-WLTP one that I test-drove one year ago and immediately fell in love with.

Skoda obviously decided to let this version breathe, for the price of 149 g/km CO2.

Love how KESSY works. You lock the car by touching the sensor, but you can still open the tailgate while the doors remain locked. The tailgate will automatically lock again as you leave.
Great for shopping.