Dear all,

 

I promised that I would do an article for Briskoda (with photos) - showing what I needed to do to do the upgrade the screen and the MIB unit itself.  I've got photos where necessary.

 

My Car is a 2019 Octavia Scout with many options - I'm trying to give @SashaGracea run for her money in terms of car upgrades!  I also want to thank her for being on the end of a messaging service to help me through when it went slightly wrong at one point.  I'll also tag @pab567who provided some of the items.

 

My car already has an Amunsden MIB2.5 system - with Navigation; not a bad system, but wanted the nicer Columbus system. 

 

You will need:

 

• 3V0035021B - Reworked Columbus MIB2.5 system (was originally an MIB2 system from @pab567).  You can enquire with him for any price.  This MIB system will need to have Content Protection removed and have been configured for your car.
• 5E0919606D-BIO - 9.2" inch screen for the Columbus system (revision H53 in my case) - purchased from Horton Skoda in Lincoln - £707 for the screen
• VCDS system - version 20.12 and the appropriate VCDS dongle
• Tool kit - I used my computer / small electronics tool kit which came in useful
• Radio Removal Keys x 4
• Small sharp knife
• Paper-clip - straightened

 

The Screen

 

I tackled the screen first - seemingly being the easiest.  There are four release slots.  The top at the top of the screen as easy to see - the two at the bottom need fingernails.  At the very bottom of the screen, there is a plastic seam.  Get your nails inbetween the seam and gently pull down - the plastic bottom piece will drop slightly - showing the bottom 2 slots. 

My radio removal keys say - top left and top right.  Put a top left in the top left slot and the next top left into the bottom left slots.  Put the top right into the top right and the next top right into the bottom right slot.  You want to push home until you hear a 'click'.  All 4 keys are engaged and connected in.  The screen should just pull out (pull straight directly towards you).  You will now be presented with two cables at the back of the screen.

 

To disengage the two connectors at the back of the screen, press the release tag on the black connector and push the release tag on the top of the blue connector.

 

Carefully put this screen to one side.  To disenage the keys from the Screen, press and outer side of the locking mechanism.

 

We need to do some minor modifications on one of  the connectors.  If you look at the back of the Columbus screen vs the Amunsden Screen, you will notice that the one connector is BLUE and the other is BLACK.

Columbus Screen

 

 

Amunsden Screen

 

You will need to modify the connector slightly with your sharp penknife.  It involves one side tab of the Blue connector to make it fit.

This photo shows the blue connector post modification with my Swiss Army Knife.

Now the Blue Connector will fit into the black socket and the Black Multiway connector will also connect up as previously. 

Insert the screen back into the slot - no keys are needed- it just clicks into place.

 

 

THE MIB Headunit

 

In the Glove Box, you will need to take out the Glove box completely.  This will become obvious soon, because you will need to gently release the MIB cable loom at; this cannot be done with the glove box installed.  An overview is unclip from the bottom, unclip the soft-touch lever arm on the left hand side and gently drop out the glove-box.  There are better instructions elsewhere on Briskoda or on Youtube.

 

You will need two radio removal keys for this at the bottom of the MIB system.

(ignore the fact that I hadn't removed the glovebox at this point - hasn't realised you needed access to the loom at the back of the MIB unit).

 

VERY VERY gently pull out the MIB unit.  You will need to get your head under the back of the glove-box area and you will realise that the cables are tightly bundled into the back of the dashboard.  Its feeling where the loom is and gently unbundling it and you pull out the MIB Amunsden system.

 

There are multiple connectors on the back of the Head unit;

 

....and then it went wrong

 

Some background here - the lovely Sasha had retrofitted a reversing camera into my car, so there were already modifications to the loom;  I gently removed the MIB headunit and discovered that I had broken a wire.

Did you spot the problem in the previous picture - have a look again on the left hand side and you will see an orange wire that is dangling loose.  I continued though - because I figured out I would have to try and fix it (which I did).  To remove the Black, White/Pink & Blue connectors, you need to pull the locking tabs out (my blue tab lock fell apart and went under the seat, but was easy to reinsert).  The Pink and Yellow connectors - finger nail  / Spugger time - gently tease them out until they come apart.  DO NOT BE FORCEFUL - patience required.  Finally, the big black DIN connector unlatches at the bottom of the connector.

 

Post Removal of Headunit

 

Its worth examining the back of each MIB Headunit now. 

 

Amunsden

 

Columbus

 

 

The only attachment I moved across - was for the fibre optic port.  This is the grey Oval connector - which I put onto the back of the Columbus system.

 

In terms of socket colours, here is a table of what is what:

 

Amunsden -> Columbus

Black -> Black

White double -> White Double

Blue -> Blue

Yellow -> Yellow

Pink -> Grey - you need to perform the same wizardy with the connector and remove one tab part of the connector (with your pen knife)- same as you did for the blue connector for the screen

Black DIN -> Black DIN

 

Fixing the Wire

 

Do you remember that orange wire; turns out this was the Orange/Brown wire for the Can LOW connection on the Gray part of the DIN connector.

 

It is Wire 12 that needed to go back in and be reattached:

 

 

To take out the grey connector, you unlatch it gently using a small screw driver from the main black DIN connector.  Speaking with Sasha, trying to figure out what to do, I had to try and get the pin out from the connector. 

Trying to look at this connector (its called a AMP connector), it took me a while to figure out how to get the connector apart - then I found this photo on a chinese auction website:

I therefore got a screw driver into the side of the wayward connection and levered up.  It popped open.

 

 

I then used the paperclip to push back AMP/TE connector pin - back far enough - to allow it to show its rear connector.  The pin is designed to be a one-way fit with a metal latch to stop it coming out of the connector block.  I got just enough space to gently open up the rear of the pin, put the orange/brown wire back in and reattach.

 

I put the connector back into the DIN block this this:

 

 

I then started putting all of the connectors onto the back of the headunit.

 

I gently push back the headunit into its slot - making sure the wiring loom at the back was not caught up - and then held my breath:

 

IT WORKED!!!!!!

 

Modification to be performed by VCDS

 

There are two things that need to be enabled:  Skoda Surround & the Reversing Camera.

 

Skoda Surround settings are: Module 5F, Byte 11 and change to Hex 04

Reversing Camera setting: Module 5F - Adaptions (you need to put in the security code 20103) - Car Function List BAP Gen 2 - VPSx0B - Enable

 

Things that are broken

 

The MIB system doesn't have any online connectivity - this is where I throw this open to Briskoda folk to possibly assist.

 

I've now lost Skoda Connect functionality - and I cannot get the MIB Headunit to connect its WAN connection to my phone.  I think the WAN function on a Columbus works differently to an Amunsden.  On my old Amunsden, you linked up to your mobile via a Wireless Hotspot; this doesn't seem to happen on the Columbus and therefore I cannot go online.  As my car already had Skoda Connect, I am assuming that the Car will be registered in the VW Database backend, so it should connect up.  If it helps, I do also have a Carstick that I can try.

 

I also want advice on how I can get the SIM card slot to work.  What hardware do I need to make this work properly?

 

This posting is now open for comments:

 

To have SIM working you need to add 2 LTE antennas that are factory installed inside rear bumper - 5E0035497 (left) and 5E0035497B (right). Then you need 1m long waterproof cables hat goe from bumper to the trunk and then regular coaxial cables to connect to infotainment unit. I don't remember part numbers now for the waterproof cables but can check it later.

 

Alternatively ypu can get aftermarket antenna from aliexpress which is very cost-effective.

Thanks @pab567.  I've already got a connector plugged into the double white/pink connector.  Is that connector used for GPS?

No, this is double Fakra purple connector

59 minutes ago, pab567 said:

To have SIM working you need to add 2 LTE antennas that are factory installed inside rear bumper - 5E0035497 (left) and 5E0035497B (right). Then you need 1m long waterproof cables hat goe from bumper to the trunk and then regular coaxial cables to connect to infotainment unit. I don't remember part numbers now for the waterproof cables but can check it later.

 

Alternatively ypu can get aftermarket antenna from aliexpress which is very cost-effective.

 

1m long waterproof cables that goed from bumper to the trunk - 000098712A.

Ive ordered the Alipay variant. Excellent.... double purple connector it is.....if I went with the OEM, what part number for the long co-axial?

Do you know the audio output power of the Columbus?

It should be 4 x 10w channels of audio. Canton systems have their own sound output.

Hace 1 hora, varaderoguy dijo:

Deben ser 4 x 10w canales de audio. Los sistemas de Canton tienen su propia salida de sonido.

It is really little ... changing only speakers (Focal or Alpine) will it help?  I have a Superb that I assume will be the same Columbus ...

12 hours ago, varaderoguy said:

It should be 4 x 10w channels of audio.

 

I think it's 4x20W, at least based from SSP 890153

 

Still, I agree it's not oodles of power...