Yes indeed.  Influencers.  The need to declare when they are receiving money, products etc.  Gain or reward.    Employment status.   There are ones that very much are mixing business and pleasure and it is hard to know if filming for work.    But the electric car thing is not any different really.  They might have been into cars and reviews before.  Maybe not as self employed though.  It is what it is really.  Tell no lies and be transparent and tell young story.  There are ones with no story of their own to tell they just report on the news from others.  

Edited 18 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

8 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

Yes indeed.  Influencers.  The need to declare when they are receiving money, products etc.  Gain or reward.    Employment status.   There are ones that very much are mixing business and pleasure and it is hard to know if filming for work.    But the electric car thing is not any different really.  They might have been into cars and reviews before.  Maybe not as self employed though.  It is what it is really.  Tell no lies and be transparent and tell young story.  There are ones with no story of their own to tell they just report on the news from others.  

Those reporting based on news from others is fine as long their sources are correct. Then there are those like "let's go friends" who guild things a bit but there is always a grain of truth in there, you just have to ignore the "click" and read between the lines. 

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

That is part of the problem, news medias journalists are following official lines / narratives most of the time, bloggers and loggers are free to their own thing, others are paid to say certain things. 

 

Many of the publications, particularly the papers, perhaps should be barred from calling themselves "newspapers" as the do not deliver news but political opinion mostly so should be called mouthpieces rather than "newspapers" ?

 

Edited 18 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

@Graham ButcherThings are Sh!t enough, i have 2 failed to start and started charging this morning at £5 for each of these have resulted in me getting Invoices & Receipts from CPS. But not a Invoice / Reciept for the charge i did get of £5.70

The guy started the Charger remotely, i asked how this was available after 5 years of them saying these chargers were not available remotely.  Amazing new tech, on crap old equipment.

 

The call handler said Contact South Ayrshire Council, i told him they did a press release saying Contact CPS ASAP. 

I told him you can not keep taking VAT on a Service or product not provided. 

 

Anyway that is me onto them next week.   But i am still quids up on the charging sessions that have not been billed to me. 

 

Edited 18 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

26 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@Graham ButcherThings are Sh!t enough, i have 2 failed to start and started charging this morning at £5 for each of these have resulted in me getting Invoices & Receipts from CPS. But not a Invoice / Reciept for the charge i did get of £5.70

The guy started the Charger remotely, i asked how this was available after 5 years of them saying these chargers were not available remotely.  Amazing new tech, on crap old equipment.

 

The call handler said Contact South Ayrshire Council, i told him they did a press release saying Contact CPS ASAP. 

I told him you can not keep taking VAT on a Service or product not provided. 

 

Anyway that is me onto them next week.   But i am still quids up on the charging sessions that have not been billed to me. 

 

Still plenty of room for much improvement then, imagine if the majority of cars were electric, it would be a cake and ar*e party. 

30 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@Graham ButcherThings are Sh!t enough, i have 2 failed to start and started charging this morning at £5 for each of these have resulted in me getting Invoices & Receipts from CPS. But not a Invoice / Reciept for the charge i did get of £5.70

The guy started the Charger remotely, i asked how this was available after 5 years of them saying these chargers were not available remotely.  Amazing new tech, on crap old equipment.

 

The call handler said Contact South Ayrshire Council, i told him they did a press release saying Contact CPS ASAP. 

I told him you can not keep taking VAT on a Service or product not provided. 

 

Anyway that is me onto them next week.   But i am still quids up on the charging sessions that have not been billed to me. 

 

 

Done more public charging attempts in the last week than I have in the previous 3 years with my managing office moving for Liverpool to Felixstowe.

 

Well Cambridge services a mess as the install more chargers and the BP Pulse and Shell Recharge no goes. Shell pair in use or ICE'd, BP, a dozen chargers at Corby area, start authorisation then just hang. Took around £245 to pending and would not actually start the charge.

 

Not a decent chargers anywhere along the hundred plus miles of the A14.

BP and Shell, what a disgrace. You deserve not to be in business by the end of this decade.

 

Thankfully just made it to Rugby services to the large bank of Gridserve chargers. What a contrast, full 125 kW charging, quick start to charge process, ten minute charge to one third full and back on the road in 15 minutes and that includes slip roads and connections.

 

Well done Gridserve, 79p a kwh did not feel so bad when such good service, £16 spent.  Like Ionity and I suspect Instavolt great service until giants BP and Shell, may you die like the dinosaurs.

 

35 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Done more public charging attempts in the last week than I have in the previous 3 years with my managing office moving for Liverpool to Felixstowe.

 

Well Cambridge services a mess as the install more chargers and the BP Pulse and Shell Recharge no goes. Shell pair in use or ICE'd, BP, a dozen chargers at Corby area, start authorisation then just hang. Took around £245 to pending and would not actually start the charge.

 

Not a decent chargers anywhere along the hundred plus miles of the A14.

BP and Shell, what a disgrace. You deserve not to be in business by the end of this decade.

 

Thankfully just made it to Rugby services to the large bank of Gridserve chargers. What a contrast, full 125 kW charging, quick start to charge process, ten minute charge to one third full and back on the road in 15 minutes and that includes slip roads and connections.

 

Well done Gridserve, 79p a kwh did not feel so bad when such good service, £16 spent.  Like Ionity and I suspect Instavolt great service until giants BP and Shell, may you die like the dinosaurs.

 

So it seems that the bloggers who have said that in the past, are / were correct after all then. Electric at the moment is not what many claim it to be. You do need in some areas to plan your routes carefully, and need to allow for problems at some locations, so backups are also needed to be allowed for. 

3 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

So it seems that the bloggers who have said that in the past, are / were correct after all then. Electric at the moment is not what many claim it to be. You do need in some areas to plan your routes carefully, and need to allow for problems at some locations, so backups are also needed to be allowed for. 

 

Indeed and it can almost be fun and a badge of honour doing so.

 

Growing pains no doubt. Disappointing Cambridge services are making such a dogs dinner of things as well as BP and Shell.

 

Even though our routing via M25 and A12 to drop in to the excellent Braintree Gridserve location or perhaps the new Stevenage Gridserve facility which is getting high praise.

 

To use in International logistics the A14 is virtually the main arterial route and that it's 100 plus length is so bad for EVs, cars and trucks, is a disgrace.

 

No doubt EV journey planning requires considerable thinking unlike ICE journeys which can be done without much thought at all.  This will change as the custom at conventional gas stations steadily declines, we are seeing this in China as a forerunner of what is starting to happen in Europe.

 

Already looking at the more southerly routes to Felixstowe ie MK and across country or M25 and A12 to avoid A14 at least until Cambridge services full back up and running in a few weeks and then A14 should be peachy.

 

 

41 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Indeed and it can almost be fun and a badge of honour doing so.

 

Growing pains no doubt. Disappointing Cambridge services are making such a dogs dinner of things as well as BP and Shell.

 

Even though our routing via M25 and A12 to drop in to the excellent Braintree Gridserve location or perhaps the new Stevenage Gridserve facility which is getting high praise.

 

To use in International logistics the A14 is virtually the main arterial route and that it's 100 plus length is so bad for EVs, cars and trucks, is a disgrace.

 

No doubt EV journey planning requires considerable thinking unlike ICE journeys which can be done without much thought at all.  This will change as the custom at conventional gas stations steadily declines, we are seeing this in China as a forerunner of what is starting to happen in Europe.

 

Already looking at the more southerly routes to Felixstowe ie MK and across country or M25 and A12 to avoid A14 at least until Cambridge services full back up and running in a few weeks and then A14 should be peachy.

 

 

Gridserve Braintree is only about 8 miles from me, there is a Tesla location on Chelmsford just a few hundred metres from the A12, can you use those? 

42 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Gridserve Braintree is only about 8 miles from me, there is a Tesla location on Chelmsford just a few hundred metres from the A12, can you use those? 

 

Depending on if it is the latest v4 Superchargers. As a matter of ethics I only use TESLA as a last resort ie if there is no other alternative, irrespective of price.

 

Apparently there have been some stickers available for TESLA owners to put in their cars which say. " I bought my TESLA before Musk went crazy",  nice.

 

 

Edited 18 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

56 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

Depending on if it is the latest v4 Superchargers. As a matter of ethics I only use TESLA as a last resort ie if there is no other alternative, irrespective of price.

 

Apparently there have been some stickers available for TESLA owners to put in their cars which say. " I bought my TESLA before Musk went crazy",  nice.

 

 

Oh, all the chargers are in the City and some distance from the A12, and not to many of those either. 

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

Apparently there have been some stickers available for TESLA owners to put in their cars which say. " I bought my TESLA before Musk went crazy",  nice.

 

Tesla sales here in Germany fell by 41% last year. People here aren't fans of the company's owner. 

31 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

 

Tesla sales here in Germany fell by 41% last year. People here aren't fans of the company's owner. 

 

We should feel sorry for Musk as he has to produce a new rocket to replace one that blew up 8 minutes in to the flight. Hope nobody or anybodies property was damaged by the shower of debris falling from the sky 

Wonder if Musk believes in karma, probably not.

Hopefully Jeff Bezos rockets will do better. Amazon delivery to space it is looking like.

 

Edited 18 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

The drop in EV sales was not only Tesla in Germany.  The drop in VW Group EV,s sold in 2024 will be worth looking at, and in cars sales of non EV,s.  

5 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

The drop in EV sales was not only Tesla in Germany.  The drop in VW Group EV,s sold in 2024 will be worth looking at, and in cars sales of non EV,s.  

 

No more subsidies and a Germany economy in a very bad way it sounds like.

Given the opportunity for the UK to take the number one crown for EV sales for Europe especially when UK has no additional tariffs on Chinese EVs like EU countries.

Some of the prices of SAIC, MG cars are just massive discount on what there were. Still not sold on SAIC MG as reliability poor and software not so good I hear but plenty of other choices ie BYD, POLESTAR.

Wonder if countervailing duty will eventually be charged on CN cars coming to UK.

Above does not apply to Northern Ireland as this territory was passed to EU by Boris of course.

 

 

Had not realised that Renault had also won 2025 van of the year with its 90 kwh batteried Renault Master.

 

On an absolute roll.

 

Sometimes it is easy to forget that vans have a bigger effect on pollution than cars as they work for so many hours a day rather than maybe just a couple of hours on average for cars ?

 

4 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Apparently there have been some stickers available for TESLA owners to put in their cars which say. " I bought my TESLA before Musk went crazy",  nice.

Haha, very nice.

 

Although true for me, I'm not such a snowflake to care what other people think of my transportation choice.

 

Besides, Tesla and SpaceX are much more than Musk. There's a whole team of amazing engineers behind the brands to pursuit the original mission statements.

7 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Still plenty of room for much improvement then, imagine if the majority of cars were electric, it would be a cake and ar*e party. 

 

Apparently 98% of charging is done at home, surprised it is that high, would gave guessed around 90%.

 

That is not to say, or rather confirms, government should do a lot more about having very good public charging for those who do not have home chargers.

 

51 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Haha, very nice.   Although true for me, I'm not such a snowflake to care what other people think of my transportation choice. Besides, Tesla and SpaceX are much more than Musk. There's a whole team of amazing engineers behind the brands to pursuit the original mission statements.

 

I just do not like the person Musk is despite his company's technical success.

 

I gather in the last few days he sacked several thousand workers at one of his car plant, America I presume.

 

The individuals found out as they drove up to the plant and were then told if your pass does not work then you are fired.

 

No way to treat human beings.

 

 

28 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

I just do not like the person Musk is despite his company's technical success.

 

I gather in the last few days he sacked several thousand workers at one of his car plant, America I presume.

 

The individuals found out as they drove up to the plant and were then told if your pass does not work then you are fired.

 

No way to treat human beings.

 

 

 

He's not well thought of in the UK or here in Germany 

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51395-germans-and-britons-disapprove-of-musks-recent-interventions

 

He surely can't get away with that can he? 

9 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

He surely can't get away with that can he? 

 

And you better start swimmin' or you'll sink like a stone..... 

 

 

Electric Viking talking about the gradual closure of diesel/petrol station as their clientele gradual decline, happened in China and Norway and is bound to happen here in Europe as percentage of EV climb and ICE vehicles decline.  36% of UK gas stations have closed since 2000 Sam quotes in he video.

 

Should be and are more jobs appearing at coffee and food places opening up close to EV charging stations.

One garage owner, small local gas station down in Devon, said he made as much profit on selling a bottle of pop and chocy bar as the fuel ! ......

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 19 January, 20251 yr by lol-lol

Easy to make profits from ridiculously over priced goods, foods at filling stations, virtually or actually small convenience stores.     It is a long long time away from Fuel filling stations in the UK not selling liquid fuel.  There are bigger and bigger ones with Fast food outlets and bakeries and post office counters etc, owned by the likes off the Issa brothers /Asda EG.   Not needing to sell at Service Station rip off prices..  there is an issue with Service stations that is a Government / local council caused issue.    Refusing planning for staff accommodation at the facilities.   Also Brexit and getting staff that want to live in the middle of nowhere with no shops or facilities other than where you work and if you have no car you are stuffed.    PS. Devon is not the back of beyond as far as a Cash and Carry,s or deliveries from suppliers no matter what some might like others to believe.   And as far as electricity gets up the wind farms and pylons and get in the chargers, or get cracking and drill baby drill.     Vans be them ICE or BEV can deliver goods to filling stations and charge hubs, they need fuelled anyway unless they do so at the depot.  

Edited 19 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere

Sam Evans.  EXPERTS.  Pick an expert!  Then Pick a number any number.   98% EV,s charged at home.  Not even cars, let alone EV,s.  Vans.    How quickly are the petrol and diesels already in the UK going to be scrapped is what will be relevant to reduced places to fill up.  As to supermarkets with filling stations not having pumps anymore, well they caused the closing of many filling stations privately run.     I predict fuel being better priced as petrol and diesel is a product that comes while refining oil to produce petrochemicals.  As far as filling stations not being charities.   There are in the UK Community Fuel Pumps.  Run by locals for locals and tourists because there was not a huge demand for a Filling Station but to fill up required a 50 mile round trip.      Until councils do not require diesel for their vehicles then Diesel is getting delivered to them and there can be Local Authority depots serving fuel.    Local fuels for local folks.  It arrives at ports and no place in the UK is more than 75 miles from the sea. 

Edited 19 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere