My Felicia has a broken windshield wiper

[D.FYLAKTOS]

Due to multiple vandalism from young people in after midnight hours (those which don't go to school next morning), add a 24 years use and my Felicia has no more a wind shield wiper, the thread it's broken.

Normally looks like this:

 

 

 

Few days ago i saw that it could move properly and after i checked the bolt i found this:

 

 

 

 

 

I will open the 5th door cover for inspection of the motor and the bracket but i am not optimist that i can fix it.

 

[J.R.]

From the oxidisation it actually looks like it was already fractured all the way around and it would not have taken a lot to finish it off.

 

I had the rear wiper on my MK1 Octavia vandalised by kids, your wiper will have still been attached to the shaft, was it bent and buckled?

 

A small consolation but it would have eventually seperated I reckon and it could have been mid journey, looks like a new unit or at least the housing is needed, always a pain on an older vehicle.

[D.FYLAKTOS]

14 minutes ago, J.R. said:

was it bent and buckled?

 

No, everything looked normal (although many times in the morning i have seen it rised) but when i pressed the lever did half move and next time 1/3 of the move and then stopped.

The weird is that when i removed the windscreen blade and put a tie wrap to see if the axis could move compleately then it did, from left to right but after further inspection saw that the thread was in his ''last time".

Could not ''carry the weight" of the windscreen blade any more so i think it's the rotor too, 2 failures in 1 damage.

[D.FYLAKTOS]

The remains.

 

 

 

There is nothing left to hold the axis

 

 

 

so it drops to the right side, useless.

 

 

 

I don't think that i can do anything even with epoxy glue for metal components. ☹️

[Thefeliciahacker]

Are they the Roma fans? 

[D.FYLAKTOS]

3 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Are they the Roma fans? 

 

What?

[nta16]

The idea is to locate the drive through the door skin and hold it at the correct angle for the wiper arm and blade to the rear window also to seal the hole so water doesn't get to inside.

 

As it is the rear wiper you could just remove the motor and blank off and seal the hole in the door (unless your MoT doesn't allow this).

 

If you want or need to keep the wiper then take the motor out  to see what, if anything, can be done or adapted to hold the drive in position and see the motor mounting in the door with trim panel off.

 

 

49 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

What?

Might mean kicky-bally (Wendyball as local Rugby Football fans call it here) team fans(?).

 

[mikefelicia]

One for sale on Ebay ok its in the UK USED SKODA FELICIA REAR WIPER MOTOR 1997 HATCHBACK | eBay  but it is cheap.

[Thefeliciahacker]

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

What?

https://el.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ρομά#:~:text=Οι Ρομά είναι γνωστοί στις,με την ονομασία "αθίγγανοι".

[D.FYLAKTOS]

58 minutes ago, nta16 said:

As it is the rear wiper you could just remove the motor and blank off and seal the hole in the door (unless your MoT doesn't allow this).

 

If you want or need to keep the wiper then take the motor out  to see what, if anything, can be done

 

The MOT does not care so much for such things, if they ask you you can give an answer (''they broke it last night, i will fix it" and that's it, in the final report won't write an observation.

I am on it but i am not optimist because the thread is gone.

 

@Thefeliciahacker No gypsies had nothing to do with this, didn't steal it, it's was a bit of normal wear but the main responsible are the ''investors" which hanging around all night with alcohol-drugs (the suckers pay their allowances) and do damages in cars (mirrors-scratches-tyres-wind shield wipers etc) just for fun or from hate to the locals.

 

@mikefelicia My electrician said to leave it as is (of course i will cover the hole with a plug) because he had the same issue in his car (Renault Megane i think) and does not worth the cost to put new motor.

I don't know, after almost 24 years it's hard for me to parting ways from this item although now with my mirror-camera didn't needed it so much.

 

 

[nta16]

If it's a no loss situation, that is you can't use it now so if whatever you do doesn't work you've lost nothing you could try a repair/adaption by the look of the motor Mike has put up, and no need for an electrician.

 

The electrical connection looks to be a simple socket and plug and it looks like (though I don't know for sure) the motor mounting is very straightforward.  So you can easily take the motor out and test it directly off a 12v battery, such as the one installed in the car, for its running and put a bit of resistance to the arm and blade to see if it can cope.

 

If it passes the test you could look at something to go from motor arm through door panel and secured and weather seal perhaps using some of the bits you already have or make something else up, depends on what you have available or can get.  What's the motor is out you could perhaps clean it internally electrically and mechanically perhaps and it might run for many more years from doing so.  There's nothing complicated about any of this, you might have to be a bit inventive but you have lots of time to work things out and do the work.

 

 

 

[Thefeliciahacker]

8 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 No gypsies had nothing to do with this, didn't steal it, it's was a bit of normal wear but the main responsible are the ''investors" which hanging around all night with alcohol-drugs (the suckers pay their allowances) and do damages in cars (mirrors-scratches-tyres-wind shield wipers etc) just for fun or from hate to the locals.

You have insurance cover for vandalism? 

Report it the popo and then get you insurance to pay 

[D.FYLAKTOS]

9 hours ago, nta16 said:

The electrical connection looks to be a simple socket and plug and it looks like (though I don't know for sure) the motor mounting is very straightforward.

 

I have tools in my car's trunk, the @Thefeliciahacker has not and does work with his bear hands.

I have removed the motor, does not work properly but even if he was the thread is out and in used spare parts store they sell it as "all together" so the axis goes with the motor as "package".

I will post photos of the motor when i return home.

[Thefeliciahacker]

https://kritosparts.gr/Part/Moter-Yalokatharistira-PISO-FELICIA-98580459201/e92598580459201
You owe me a thank you!

[gumdrop]

Find an engineering shop and show the tube nut bits they could make one if the cost suits you.

[Thefeliciahacker]

12 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

I have removed the motor, does not work properly but even if he was the thread is out and in used spare parts store they sell it as "all together" so the axis goes with the motor as "package".

wait hold up, we are making such a fuss because you DONT want to replace it a a whole and you are trying to fix, MY DUDE CMON, change it out and be done with it, if you have vandalism coverage ITS FREE.

OMG this shouldnt even have made it from the first post
1st post vandals broke my wiper motor, I use my insurance coverage and move on!
2nd post yes you are right good to know (that these cars are targeted so we will be carefull) have a nice day AND THATS IT

Edited 10 March by Thefeliciahacker

[D.FYLAKTOS]

17 minutes ago, gumdrop said:

Find an engineering shop and show the tube nut bits they could make one if the cost suits you.

 

Yes i know that he can make in lathe machine a new thread and weld it.

 

18 minutes ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

wait hold up, we are making such a fuss because you DONT want to replace it a a whole and you are trying to fix,

 

That's the Forum for, people help each other, sharing experiences and talk for solutions, giving opinions etc.

Now that the damage happened i waver if worth to fix-replace it or be like a sedan which have no rear windshield wiper.

[Thefeliciahacker]

48 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

That's the Forum for, people help each other, sharing experiences and talk for solutions, giving opinions etc.

Now that the damage happened i waver if worth to fix-replace it or be like a sedan which have no rear windshield wiper

Okey simple help. 

The manufacturer had a wiper system so do you. 

You have 2 options for brand new parts. 

Pay 50 euros and be done with it. 

Or if you have insurance get them to pay 50 euros and be done with it. 

As simple as that 

Edited 10 March by Thefeliciahacker

[R_Blue]

I checked local stores and rear wiper motor for Felly is not available.

You are lucky to still be able to find it locally. (Thanks to @Thefeliciahacker )

 

Think like this; if it served 20 years, a new one will serve at least 20 years more.

If this happened 5 years later, maybe you wouldn't be able to find a new one at that time.

 

I'd say, buy a new one. Keep the old one. You can have it repaired and sell it later or keep it for spare parts. Especially for the gears inside.

[vucko1011]

Which country are you from? I have a complete wiper system for Felicia and Favorit for sale if you are interested.

[R_U_AFA]

Probably cost more to have original one repaired, than cost of a new unit.

Also the motors have plastic gears inside, which can be easily sheared of their shafts, so yes you would have to be careful if buying a 2nd hand motor from a  vehicle breakers.

[R_U_AFA]

https://www.megaparts.eu/en/product/1488668057

Used them before, with no issues. 

Also keep watching the item, because they regularly have up to 40% off offers, bit like autodoc do.

Again no way of knowing if the gears inside are ok though.

[D.FYLAKTOS]

@R_U_AFA That's for Felicia 1.3 rear

https://www.megaparts.eu/en/product/1413740078

but as Used the price is high althouth in this one

https://www.b-parts.com/auto-parts/electrical-and-electronic/rear-wiper-motor-skoda-felicia-ii-6u1-13-097858043-097858043-1998-1999-2000-2001-7179873

is outrageous.

 

I can find in the local marker Used for 30 euros (or the VIKA as New) although it's a risk because i don't know how much use it has in the past.

Mine except the thread must have a problem with the plastic gears (teflon maybe) so i don't think worth or can anybody will take the responsibility to repair it.

Rain in my place is rare and very rare i have used that windshield wiper.

[nta16]

17 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

does not work properly but even if he was the thread is out

Perhaps it can be fixed and the thread issue overcome with and adaption for secure fixing and location through the existing holes in the door - and I don't think you need necessarily (though I don't know as I don't have the motor to look at or play with) any sort of engineering workshop or specialist tools.  The work will be hidden behind the door painted metal skin and internal panel trim out of sight, the fixing outside mostly cover by the bottom of the arm a bit of black paint would disguise or hide any DIY clumsiness.

 

If it's broke already and you fail to repair and install it you've lost only time and whatever bits you used on it.

 

Or you could pay 50 euro and get a new replacement (or claim off your insurance if that's cost effective and not much hassle (you never would over here usually at least £100 compulsory excess on the insurance and many have up to £500 voluntary excess on top of whatever compulsory (being old we have £100 compulsory and zero voluntary excess (well we did last year).

 

Or - my choice - blank off and seal the hole and forget about a rear wiper loads of cars didn't have them, clean the rear window when you clean the rear lights and number plate, you're supposed to glance through the rear window not try and see how much the bloke behind is picking his nose whilst driving, a quick look, is it safe to do what you are going to do next as far as what is behind you is concerned, a reasonably clear view, you have door or side mirror(s) no doubt too.

  

[nta16]

ETA:

4 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Mine except the thread must have a problem with the plastic gears

Again you will know this for sure if you open it up IIRC four screws(?)..  Find the wiper type and you might find new plastic gears sets are available (perhaps NOS?), if exact degrees of sweep aren't available other degrees of sweep may be, that increase or decrease area of sweep but still cover enough, or not go too far, for purpose.

 

I would perhaps use the modern VW Aldi Audi/Bentley engineering material of choice fantastic-plastic to effect an adaption to the existing motor to locate and hold it in position and even perhaps some off-cut bits of old rubber to increase the vibration resistance of the motor mounting and when in operation, again in the spirit of Audi/Bentley, you can claim Bentley standard motor then.  😄

 

Edited 11 March by nta16
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