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Thanx so much Breezy_Pete you're a star and advice regarding the boot taken as well.

@wyx087 When you are talking about apples you want to be corrupting the issue by talking about pears.   by quoting things like    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032122000867 https://theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/ https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/comparative-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-a-mid-size-bev-and-ice-vehicle https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2022/06/18/we-need-to-measure-total-lifecycle-emissions-for-cars--but-evs-still-win/ https://about.bnef.com/blog/the-lifecycle-emissions-of-electric-vehicles/   You have demonstrated that you are coming at this from the wrong angle and when it comes to those 5 links, I'm NOT disputing them in any way as they are totally irrelevant and are nothing to do with what I'm saying.   If you want to ignore what I'm saying, then that's fine but please don't attempt to put words in my mouth or twist what I'm saying.   I'm disagreeing with the way that that video was trying to portray the facts. I'm not disagreeing that it uses loads of energy to do those things, but that energy and pollution that follows is not being consumed or pollution being created for the sole purpose of making petrol and diesel, it is also making items that are used a lot in EV cars, and most of the other everyday items you use in your home, tool kit clothes, footwear etc. also come from the same oil, but that is not what the video makes clear. It wants the viewer to think only about the burning of the fossil fuel and compare that directly with electric.   Fact is electric also relies heavily on oil derived products such as those that I mentioned and EV cars could not exist without those so the two and linked, like it or not, its a fact.

That sound like positive news!! 

Alcar 9215 and Alcar 9216 are both 17" steel rims.   Alcar 9215 is the stylized steel rim as shown below.   Alcar 9215 7Jx17 ET55 5/120 65.1 steel rim (from VW Transporter T5) (13.12kg) (£84.40 on mytyres.co.uk) https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=205586134406198392&rimCode=ALCAR9215  

I was gutted at the time but yeah it's dead funny now thinking back given how stupid it was...