VCDS Adaptations. How do I ..........

[AlVal]

13 hours ago, langers2k said:

 

Nope 😉

 

Adaptation channels are adjustable using VCDS, ODIS, VCP and OBDeleven. It's down to the module software and coding to what adaptation channels are available.

 

The dataset/parameters are not 'adjustable'. ODIS or VCP are directly changing a section of EEPROM in the module. The XML or ZDC file contain the data, where it needs to be written, checksums to verify the data and any security codes to unlock the module to write it.

 

They are distinct and separate from each other 👍

 

If Rosstech wanted, they could add the ability to write datasets. I doubt they will as the only 'true' source for them is the VAG servers via ODIS with a subscription etc...

 

Edit:

If you want to get an idea how some datasets are constructed, take a look at:

- https://skodapilot.com/rdkseditor/?lang=en

- https://github.com/jilleb/MQB-FPA

 

The first link is for direct TPMS modules, they are quite well understood so custom datasets are possible. This means that you can create a dataset containing the correct tyre sizes/pressures for any vehicle rather than relaying on VAG datasets. If you create a few datasets then compare them in a hexeditor, you'll soon see how these datasets work.

 

The second links is an ongoing project to reverse engineer the CAN-gateway dataset. Although some parts are now understood, plenty isn't. As I already had the dataset for my CAN gateway, I used the info to make the 'vRS' button only light up in 'sport' rather than all modes apart from 'normal'

 

Other modules will have different formats which are likely to be unique to the module and software version...

Thanks for that. I flashed my bootlid module using odis-e from version J to a more recent version AB, and now the bootlid only opens 1/5 of the way. I'm trying to figure out how I establish whether it needs some paramater file after flashing it, or whether adaptations get lost after flashing, or whether I just need to go through the vag group bootlid 'training' sequence which doesn't work for me. I'm confident the ab version software is good to use on the same module hardware as the j version

[langers2k]

I would expect thee bootlid module it to need a parameter file after the update but I've never tried such an update 

 

Did you find the TSB/TPI to go with the flash file you used? That should give some clues as to what's needed after the flash. Any fault codes?

[AlVal]

On 16/04/2021 at 07:13, langers2k said:

 

Nope 😉

 

Adaptation channels are adjustable using VCDS, ODIS, VCP and OBDeleven. It's down to the module software and coding to what adaptation channels are available.

 

The dataset/parameters are not 'adjustable'. ODIS or VCP are directly changing a section of EEPROM in the module. The XML or ZDC file contain the data, where it needs to be written, checksums to verify the data and any security codes to unlock the module to write it.

 

They are distinct and separate from each other 👍

 

If Rosstech wanted, they could add the ability to write datasets. I doubt they will as the only 'true' source for them is the VAG servers via ODIS with a subscription etc...

 

Edit:

If you want to get an idea how some datasets are constructed, take a look at:

- https://skodapilot.com/rdkseditor/?lang=en

- https://github.com/jilleb/MQB-FPA

 

The first link is for direct TPMS modules, they are quite well understood so custom datasets are possible. This means that you can create a dataset containing the correct tyre sizes/pressures for any vehicle rather than relaying on VAG datasets. If you create a few datasets then compare them in a hexeditor, you'll soon see how these datasets work.

 

The second links is an ongoing project to reverse engineer the CAN-gateway dataset. Although some parts are now understood, plenty isn't. As I already had the dataset for my CAN gateway, I used the info to make the 'vRS' button only light up in 'sport' rather than all modes apart from 'normal'

 

Other modules will have different formats which are likely to be unique to the module and software version...

So someone kindly sent me this dataset yesterday, but I was expecting a single xml file, the structure here seems to be one master xml referring to many other individual xmls, at a guess each of the individual xmls judging by the naming convention is for the individual memory addresses of the eeprom or something? I just wanted to know if this was a normal /recognised structure before I try applying it

4_6041976828837497041.rar

[langers2k]

I've never seen anything like that before, every xml I've used has been a single file

 

I'd expect ODIS to refuse it if it doesn't like the format but it certainly a risk to try it.

[Zso]

Hi everybody. 

Im a fresh member here and im not sure how to search in topics so im sorry if this question is already been done. 

I have an O2 Fl from 2010 and i'd like to put eyebrows on it. But then my front parking lights will be covered by it. The question is: in vcds cent elect adaptation what do i have to change to what values to make my drl as parking light as well and also turn off my actual parking lights? I already found out drl must be C48, C49 and the parking lights are C26, A44. 

I hope you can help me, thanks in advance!

Z

[langers2k]

2 minutes ago, Zso said:

I have an O2 Fl from 2010 and i'd like to put eyebrows on it. But then my front parking lights will be covered by it. The question is: in vcds cent elect adaptation what do i have to change to what values to make my drl as parking light as well and also turn off my actual parking lights?

 

This isn't a change you can make with VCDS.

 

You'll need VCP or ODIS-e to edit the lighting configuration in the BCM EEPROM directly

[ScoutAngell]

Anyone know how if possible to change value of speakers as now show open circuit due to a vibe amp being connected. any suggestions?

[2stroke]

Skoda Octavia-II FL ( 2012 )

My car has the coming/leaving home function already installed and activated from the factory.
The problem is that it is the Xenon low beam that lights up.
(The fog light does not come on.)

❓  Is it possible to code with VCDS and change/switch function so that it is the fog lights that are lit instead of the low beam ?  ❓

[langers2k]

7 hours ago, 2stroke said:

Is it possible to code with VCDS and change/switch function so that it is the fog lights that are lit instead of the low beam ? 

 

Yup, should be.

 

Start by posting an autoscan so we can see what your car is made from

[2stroke]

On 12/09/2021 at 22:15, langers2k said:

Yup, should be.

 

Start by posting an autoscan so we can see what your car is made from

2021-09-13  
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name:

VIN: TMBKK61Z3C2064867   License Plate:
Mileage: 147700 km   Repair Order:

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Chassis Type: 1Z-SK35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 69 72
         

VIN: TMBKK61Z3C2064867   Mileage: 147700 km

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CDA)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CDA.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 115 G    HW: 1Z0 907 115 F
   Component: 1.8l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
   Revision: AAH18---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0203000C180F0160
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 353726C2C9431DC36C5-8060

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 113B401C0A2800FE881302EA50200041310000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 7BA3F0FAA3E70BB3DA1-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BL    HW: 3T0 907 044 BL
   Component: Climatronic   H18 0506  
   Revision: 00001007    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 7DA7FEE2BD730583E45-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 Q    HW: 1K0 937 087 Q
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   110 0651  
   Revision: 00110 AC    
   Coding: 40000AB8E00508C040080084510011A4437000AE726D8D605CC540000040
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 3FDB44EAF77FD793B69-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20091  26  0601
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 150911 05  54  0403
   Coding: 0730ED

No fault code found.              
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 75461125900531
   Coding: 118010
   Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00083
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000_001.rod
   VCID: 333318DACBB703F3421-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: Q6 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD2SZFTT  
   Coding: 0020790
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 3D273EE2F173C583A45-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME623354554

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME6513211A1

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME291618745

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME287B72319

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110907300607
   Coding: 1082140000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 79AFEAF2A95B39A3C8D-802C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537     HW: 3T0 959 537   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1Z0 920 843 Q    HW: 1Z0 920 843 Q
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 120E00
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00083
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK35.rod
   VCID: 46D5510EA825865BF5F-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1620  
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 140911F1001174
   Coding: 352302
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 353726C2C5431DC36C5-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 C    HW: 0BR 907 554 C
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3018  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 45D7560299A38D43FC5-8010

No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC5BEDCFD823B317-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AA    HW: 1T0 959 701 AA
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0004342
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 76B5E1CE94C556DBA5F-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 34311BC6C23904CB5BB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S    HW: 1T0 959 702 S
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2119  
   Coding: 0004342
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 48C95F36AEB1902B073-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1507354
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 34311BC6C23904CB5BB-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0005  
   Coding: 00000023

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0005  
   Coding: 00000023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 F    HW: 1Z0 035 156 F
   Component: BOLERO        010 0061  
   Revision: 0A001001    Serial number: SKZ1Z3L9543733
   Coding: 0F0004000001
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 353726C2C5431DC36C5-8060

No fault code found.              
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A    HW: 5K0 959 703 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012563
   VCID: 323D1DDE382D0AFB497-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Anhaenger     H09 0100  
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000155230775
   Coding: 410D000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00083
   VCID: 303917D63A2138EB3F3-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A    HW: 5K0 959 704 A
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012563
   VCID: 333318DAC73703F3421-8066

No fault code found.

 

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[langers2k]

Answered in your other thread @2stroke

 

 

[auq1984]

This is the most updated post about this topic so I will try to explain and post my modifications and questions here.

Yesterday I had 10 minutes to play with vcds on my mk3 facelift and I did some changes:

 

Deactivate interior light with trunk opened (only the trunk light is on)

module 09 - Adaptation

Interior light 2nd generation - "Innenlicht bei offenem heckdeckel einschalten"

change to inaktive.

 

Liters to refuel

module 17 - coding 07

Byte 10 - Bit 4 activated

 

Clima speed on auto mode

module 08 - coding 07

Byte 11 - Bit 6 activated

 

Didn't worked for me:

Staging (I supposed that because my dash it's completely digital like this)

module 17 - coding 07

Byte 01 - Bit 0 activated

Lap timer

module 17 - coding 07

Byte 01 - Bit 3 activated

Right rearview mirror down with reverse (really wanted to work, I will try again)

module 52 - coding 07

Byte 04 - Bits 2 & 3 activated

module 09 - adaptation 10 (code 31347)

Spiegelverstellung-Menuesteuerung Spiegelabsenkung change to activated

Spiegelverstellung-Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt change to activated

"eyelashes" on DRL only for facelift (can't find a photo of this)

module 09 - adaptation 10 (code 31347)

Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Lichtfunktion C16 change to Tagfahrlicht (daytime running lights)

Leuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9-Dimmwert CD16 change to 127

Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Lichtfunktion C17 change to Tagfahrlicht (daytime running lights)

Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3-Dimmwert CD17 change to 127

 

Any suggestions on the two last modifications?

[2011matej]

On 16/12/2021 at 08:53, auq1984 said:

 

Right rearview mirror down with reverse (really wanted to work, I will try again)

module 52 - coding 07

Byte 04 - Bits 2 & 3 activated

module 09 - adaptation 10 (code 31347)

Spiegelverstellung-Menuesteuerung Spiegelabsenkung change to activated

Spiegelverstellung-Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt change to activated

 

 

Any suggestions on the two last modifications?

Hello,

you need to put mirror button on R (right) , to make it work in reverse.

 

[auq1984]

19 hours ago, 2011matej said:

Hello,

you need to put mirror button on R (right) , to make it work in reverse.

 

Hi,

Thanks, but I know it and it doesn't work in 'R'. I think that the problem are the seats, somewhere I read that they must be electrical seats to have the mirror reverse function. I don't know how this can be relationated to the seats, but it is.

[langers2k]

You need 'memory' mirror motors to get the rear dip to work properly. These are normally fitted in conjunction with electric seats

[2011matej]

2 hours ago, auq1984 said:

Hi,

Thanks, but I know it and it doesn't work in 'R'. I think that the problem are the seats, somewhere I read that they must be electrical seats to have the mirror reverse function. I don't know how this can be relationated to the seats, but it is.

Not true, i have Skoda 2016 ambition, without sensors and electrical seats.

[2011matej]

13 minutes ago, 2011matej said:

Not true, i have Skoda 2016 ambition, without sensors and electrical seats.

Maybe you cant try to add menu option too, and enable it througu menu.

Some guy unlock mirror dip for my car, i didnt do it by myself.

My car is ambition, without electrical mirrors, wuthout electrical seats, without sensor for light or rain and mirror dipping still works 😃

[auq1984]

21 minutes ago, 2011matej said:

Maybe you cant try to add menu option too, and enable it througu menu.

Some guy unlock mirror dip for my car, i didnt do it by myself.

My car is ambition, without electrical mirrors, wuthout electrical seats, without sensor for light or rain and mirror dipping still works 😃

Same car version, so I will check again all the changes in VCDS. I have the option in the menu but doesn't work. Thanks.

[2011matej]

1 minute ago, auq1984 said:

Same car version, so I will check again all the changes in VCDS. I have the option in the menu but doesn't work. Thanks.

You need to have option in menu and enabled coding 

[auq1984]

Just now, 2011matej said:

You need to have option in menu and enabled coding 

Of course

[alexmaz]

Hi everyone. I have a Octavia2 fl 2010 and for some stupid reasons I messed up byte18 and lost my DRL. After some hours in which I tried to find a combination that will work, I found that 5B it is working for me and the DRL leds are back. But I do have a problem. Now the DRL are not at full brightness, as they were before, and even though I try to change the dimming value nothing happens.

Does anyone know if can make them work as they would before?

[langers2k]

You ideally need someone with VCP or ODIS-e as they can directly modify the lighting config rather than using a byte 18 preset

[B3lq7a]

Hello,

I have 2014 Octavia 3 combi, 1.8tsi, 4x4, dsg and I want to activate ESP fully off option! Can somebody help me? Thanks in advance.

[2stroke]

56 minutes ago, B3lq7a said:

( 2014 ) Octavia-III  combi, 1.8 TSI, 4x4, DSG.
I want to activate ESP  fully OFF  option !
Can somebody help me ?

It is not possible via VCDS to do that.

[PetrolDave]

1 hour ago, B3lq7a said:

Hello,

I have 2014 Octavia 3 combi, 1.8tsi, 4x4, dsg and I want to activate ESP fully off option! Can somebody help me? Thanks in advance.

 

23 minutes ago, 2stroke said:

It is not possible via VCDS to do that.

AFAIK only on some Audi RS models is ESP off an option - on the Octavia 3 the options are ESP On & ESP Sport, usually by changing the value in byte 29 of the ABS coding

 

Controller 03 - ABS
07 - Coding
Byte 29
 

02 – Stock (for non-vRS) ESC ON / ASR OFF
09 – Stock (for vRS) ESC ON / ASR OFF / ESC SPORT