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I keep looking at bikes again in eBay! Mainly pointy SV650S :)

Good bikes mate.

I had a curvy sv650s for 2 years. Never missed a beat

Only thing that lets them down Is the suspension tbh. Its somewhat budget.

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But buying a metal one would keep Jack in business ;)

The plastic ones arent bad. Especially it you get the bunded ones ones.

Tbf. I've been to a lot of breakdowns due to metal tanks taking in water and then the boiler pump pulling it in.

It can knacker the pump and its not always easy to get the water out the tank, before bleeding the lines again.

Its a lot less common in plastic tanks

 

It's big business here as the majority og homes outside of Belfast which has mains gas, 90% of the rest of country are on oil. millions and millions of tanks in a small country so scale and demand for keep prices competitive with all the competition. A plastic tank over a metal one you can get a grant from the government to change, along with whatever newer rated boilers etc. My house was open fire back boiler previously and this has been decommissioned at time of new oil system going in as the old lady who owned house would have got a grant to help with it. Hence I have a large concrete coal bunker which is almost full of coal in garden (which is on my hit list, but is bloody heavy). Oil is so big here that within 10 miles of me there are approx 40 different oil suppliers I could call for delivery within an hour. Most will run a fleet of 5 or more tankers and some of the bigger ones 100+ tankers.

 

A classic example of how big oil is for heating here was that on 11th Sept 2001 upon seeing the unfolding news, my father immediately called the company he used for oil to get the tank filled due to the immediate middle east link and fear of price rise. He was told that he was about the 50th person to call in the last hour for the same reason lol. 

It's big business here as the majority og homes outside of Belfast which has mains gas, 90% of the rest of country are on oil. millions and millions of tanks in a small country so scale and demand for keep prices competitive with all the competition. A plastic tank over a metal one you can get a grant from the government to change, along with whatever newer rated boilers etc. My house was open fire back boiler previously and this has been decommissioned at time of new oil system going in as the old lady who owned house would have got a grant to help with it. Hence I have a large concrete coal bunker which is almost full of coal in garden (which is on my hit list, but is bloody heavy). Oil is so big here that within 10 miles of me there are approx 40 different oil suppliers I could call for delivery within an hour. Most will run a fleet of 5 or more tankers and some of the bigger ones 100+ tankers.

A classic example of how big oil is for heating here was that on 11th Sept 2001 upon seeing the unfolding news, my father immediately called the company he used for oil to get the tank filled due to the immediate middle east link and fear of price rise. He was told that he was about the 50th person to call in the last hour for the same reason lol.

Christ. It is a big thing haha. Its not small here out in the sticks, but natural gas is wide spread as im sure you know.

The best thing she did was get rid of that back boiler. They arent very efficient

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Christ. It is a big thing haha. Its not small here out in the sticks, but natural gas is wide spread as im sure you know.

The best thing she did was get rid of that back boiler. They arent very efficient

 

Aye the government want rid of them. People here like them though as a sort of pay as you go heating method. Growing up I lived in a house with one for about 8 years, what a pain clearing out the ash every day! But the likes of taking down my old shed and 4/5 trees I had no end of folk wanting them to burn lol. Been a few people killed after getting oil put in and back boiler left in place just drilled and they use open fire. Some interesting HSE reports on it with some tests they carried out with temps etc when a dry back boiler is heated up with fire and not being carried away. :o

Aye the government want rid of them. People here like them though as a sort of pay as you go heating method. Growing up I lived in a house with one for about 8 years, what a pain clearing out the ash every day! But the likes of taking down my old shed and 4/5 trees I had no end of folk wanting them to burn lol. Been a few people killed after getting oil put in and back boiler left in place just drilled and they use open fire. Some interesting HSE reports on it with some tests they carried out with temps etc when a dry back boiler is heated up with fire and not being carried away. :o

Gotta be careful doing stuff like that.

I've seen people cap the boiler side of AGA's off but still use the cooker side.

Thats essentially like making a bomb.

Good bikes mate, you won't go far wrong with one.

 

i want a mille rsv to knock around on s1000rr is to raw for popping the morrisons

i want a mille rsv to knock around on s1000rr is to raw for popping the morrisons

Im concerned about you.

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Gotta be careful doing stuff like that.

I've seen people cap the boiler side of AGA's off but still use the cooker side.

Thats essentially like making a bomb.

 

It's been a big legacy issue here as back boilers were widely installed in all housing from mid 70's to 90's and there are a lot at the end of their life now hence the grants which fall in line with EU pollution reduction stuff being popular. At the start they fully removed the back boilers, but as it was costing too much they just cap them and drill the boiler in fire place. This leaves the fire place not to be used again. Some were filling them with sand but........ not the best idea in the world. I am sure I read in a report something like a operating temp of 150Deg C in a functioning back boiler max safe limit and when testing with an empty one it hit 700Deg C in around an hour! lol 

Im concerned about you.

 

 

haha thanks  :devil:

It's been a big legacy issue here as back boilers were widely installed in all housing from mid 70's to 90's and there are a lot at the end of their life now hence the grants which fall in line with EU pollution reduction stuff being popular. At the start they fully removed the back boilers, but as it was costing too much they just cap them and drill the boiler in fire place. This leaves the fire place not to be used again. Some were filling them with sand but........ not the best idea in the world. I am sure I read in a report something like a operating temp of 150Deg C in a functioning back boiler max safe limit and when testing with an empty one it hit 700Deg C in around an hour! lol

Christ.

I wouldnt even chance it, id just rip it out and have done.

Some fill aga's with sand too, but you never really know. I certainly wouldnt sleep at night if id done it.

Such high heat with nowhere to go is a ticking bomb.

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Welcome to the 'Off Topic' section of Briskoda :p

 

Christ.

I wouldnt even chance it, id just rip it out and have done.

Some fill aga's with sand too, but you never really know. I certainly wouldnt sleep at night if id done it.

Such high heat with nowhere to go is a ticking bomb.

This is the thing I read:

 

 

What causes the problem?

The back boiler unit typically consists of a fire grate, which carries the combustible material e.g. coal, and a water chamber ‘surrounding' it. This water ‘jacket' is generally behind the fire but may also be at the sides and partially above the grate with the flue passing through it. Thus heat input to the water is gained from the hot flue gases as well as radiated from the ‘coals'. As the units are difficult to drain completely there is likely to be residual water in the redundant boiler which will turn to steam when heated. This exacerbates the pressurisation if the unit was left in a sealed condition.

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In one ‘explosion' case a fire had been set, in the grate in front of the boiler on an early autumn evening to warm a lounge; in another, the panel cover had been removed to bring the fire back into use to heat the lounge and reduce the use of the oil fired central heating. In each case it was the first time a fire had been lit since the ‘conversion'.

In tests carried out in 2002 it was found that the top and sides of a solid fuel back boiler, without circulating water, reached temperatures in excess of 700°C. Within 2 hours the temperature in some areas had reached around 480°C. This compared with normal system maximum operating temperatures of 124°C.

i want a mille rsv to knock around on s1000rr is to raw for popping the morrisons

RSV are good bikes had one for 2 years and never let me down, or you could just buy my sv1000s lol its almost the same but comfier to ride haha

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Shush ;)

Shush ;)

It's how most threads go anyway

Welcome to the 'Off Topic' section of Briskoda :p

This is the thing I read:

What causes the problem?

The back boiler unit typically consists of a fire grate, which carries the combustible material e.g. coal, and a water chamber ‘surrounding' it. This water ‘jacket' is generally behind the fire but may also be at the sides and partially above the grate with the flue passing through it. Thus heat input to the water is gained from the hot flue gases as well as radiated from the ‘coals'. As the units are difficult to drain completely there is likely to be residual water in the redundant boiler which will turn to steam when heated. This exacerbates the pressurisation if the unit was left in a sealed condition.

boiler.gif

In one ‘explosion' case a fire had been set, in the grate in front of the boiler on an early autumn evening to warm a lounge; in another, the panel cover had been removed to bring the fire back into use to heat the lounge and reduce the use of the oil fired central heating. In each case it was the first time a fire had been lit since the ‘conversion'.

In tests carried out in 2002 it was found that the top and sides of a solid fuel back boiler, without circulating water, reached temperatures in excess of 700°C. Within 2 hours the temperature in some areas had reached around 480°C. This compared with normal system maximum operating temperatures of 124°C.

Its not difficult to see why thats so dangerous though.

Any qualified person should see that itll heat up and expand with nowhere to go. Which is clearly very dangerous.

It's how most threads go anyway

 

 

Bikes to boilers?

 

ill get my coat.

Bikes to boilers?

ill get my coat.

I've had worse tbh I think one was Fiat 500s to what builders do when driving their vans wasn't it Oli?
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Bikes to boilers?

 

ill get my coat.

 

Don't you see where we are going with this? 

 

Everything comes back around to bikes :P 

 

I've had worse tbh I think one was Fiat 500s to what builders do when driving their vans wasn't it Oli?

It was! Haha. We dont mind

Bikes to boilers?

ill get my coat.

Well. Tbh mate. You dont have to read it...

It was! Haha. We dont mind

Ohh and a CitiGo for SWMBO is cheaper than a 500 but just divorce and it's a lot cheaper.

Well. Tbh mate. You dont have to read it...

 

shh.

shh.

Sorry, thats not on topic.

Sorry, thats not on topic.

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