Retro fit footwell lights Octy III

[BigBenjo]

Hi, i have one of the last my2015 produced in 21 april 2015,with last MQB platform.

Can I add 4 footwell lights to my car?

Instructions, materials and kit are the same?

Thank you!

[aki78]

Man! Thanks, this is very helpful!

Hi Milanj,

No problem.

What are the part numbers of your door controllers?

I have 5Q4 959 592 B & 593 B.

I can now confirm that my door warning lights are connected to the 32-pin connector, PIN5 (GND) & PIN16 (+) in my Elegence.

...and I have succesfully activated PIN3 with VCDS so retrofitting door card lighting seems possible (my next project).

Puddle lights in ext. mirrors must use a different connector (not the 32-pin) as they still worked with the disconnected 32-pin connector.

[milanj]

Hi Milanj,

No problem.

What are the part numbers of your door controllers?

I have 5Q4 959 592 B & 593 B.

I can now confirm that my door warning lights are connected to the 32-pin connector, PIN5 (GND) & PIN16 (+) in my Elegence.

...and I have succesfully activated PIN3 with VCDS so retrofitting door card lighting seems possible (my next project).

Puddle lights in ext. mirrors must use a different connector (not the 32-pin) as they still worked with the disconnected 32-pin connector.

Are you asking about controller "Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. SW: 5Q4 959 392 E HW: 5Q4 959 392 B"? Waiting for parts to fly in before I dig into connecting things.. But thanks again for info regarding warning lights! I take it you have no option to check where the fires from puddle lights physically connect?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CL HW: 04L 907 445 B Component: R4 1.6l TDI H06 2370 Revision: 22004001 Coding: 01114012432401090000 Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056CL 002005 ROD: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056CL_SK37.rod VCID: 79F9BFF9F86D18F61A-802C 1 Fault Found: 25347 - Loading Mode active P169A 00 [096] - - Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear Freeze Frame: Readiness: N/A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 T HW: 3Q0 907 379 C Component: ESC H32 0393 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 61585000003341 Coding: 1C07629114230970007D060841C7243846289000608224F200400070C002 Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063 ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033 ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_SK37.rod VCID: 4B953531E2715A66F8-801E No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5G0-907-044.clb Part No SW: 5E0 907 044 Q HW: 5E0 907 044 Q Component: Climatronic H04 1002 Revision: 00001K07 Coding: 02010104002100011005000000101000 Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063 ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 004131 ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_SK37.rod VCID: 33654DD19A8122A690-8066 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: None Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 AH HW: 5Q0 937 086 AH Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162 Revision: -------- Serial number: 86581806151286 Coding: 0C000842424700DB47E04000000407080000000000000000000000000000 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002 ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_AU37.rod VCID: 000FD21D9BB7493E5D-8054 Slave 1: Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E1 955 119 HW: 5E1 955 119 Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB Component: WWS371 150602 041 0570 Serial number: 150612080552 Coding: 065DDD Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 HW: 8U0 955 559 Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB Component: G355_FeuchteS H07 0002 Serial number: 21119634 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 5Q0-919-283.clb Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 F HW: 5Q0 919 283 Component: PARKHILFE 4K H10 0054 Revision: -------- Serial number: 39291515702274 Coding: 0001050001 Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063 ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002024 ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_SK37.rod VCID: 3C7766EDB7DFEDDE41-8068 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5Q0-959-655.clb Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AS HW: 3Q0 959 655 AS Component: Airbag VW20 013 0200 Revision: -------- Serial number: 003SQPBGKBT/ Coding: 98CCC000000000005C5400CC000800000065 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116 ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X_SK37.rod VCID: 0F2DE121D6E92646D4-805A Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 454 000 606 15 Component: SideSensor_Df 008 0887 Serial number: 3576U000000AEC90E41T Coding: 2D2D2D Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 454 000 506 15 Component: SideSensor_Pf 008 0887 Serial number: 3586U00000040B90E419 Coding: 2D2D2D Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 454 801 706 15 Component: SideSensor_Dr 301 0148 Serial number: 3516R2B2D3207000000$ Coding: 2D2D2D Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 454 801 506 15 Component: SideSensor_Pr 301 0148 Serial number: 3526RB62B3207000000% Coding: 2D2D2D Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 454 802 404 15 Component: FrontSensor_D 114 0149 Serial number: 3556V22FC3A06000000E Coding: 2D2D2D No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 16: Steering wheel (J524) Labels: 5Q0-953-549.clb Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 M HW: 5Q0 953 569 A Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0195 Revision: FF033033 Serial number: 20150621400488 Coding: 1400 Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063 ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015 ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod VCID: 3C7766EDB7DFEDDE41-8068 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb Part No SW: 5E0 920 781 B HW: 5E0 920 781 B Component: KOMBI 206 7640 Coding: 07A40A002180000801082A001000000000000000 Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 009005 ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_SK37.rod VCID: 275DA9815E595E063C-8072 1 Fault Found: 16777024 - Function Restricted due to Interrupted Communications U1110 00 [008] - - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00000001 Fault Priority: 6 Fault Frequency: 194 Reset counter: 72 Mileage: 9 km Date: 2000.03.08 Time: 07:58:18 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AE HW: 5Q0 907 530 E Component: GW MQB Mid 127 1223 Revision: -------- Serial number: 0003654141 Coding: 030100040F087300EB000248080F00010001050000000000000000000000 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020 ROD: EV_GatewLear.rod VCID: 74E78ECDDF0F659E49-8020 Alternator: Multifunction unit control module: Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3V0 919 719 A HW: 3V0 919 719 A Component: E221__MFL-PR6 H02 0150 Serial number: 000000000A1624110615 Battery Monitoring Control Module: Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 F HW: 5Q0 915 181 F Component: J367-BDM H08 0223 Serial number: 52162N56484290566752 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: None Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393 E HW: 5Q4 959 393 B Component: TSG FS 010 0031 Serial number: 0000155316642 Coding: 001001208000040000001100 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001 ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_SK37.rod VCID: 45810309C415AC162E-8010 Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A HW: 5Q0 959 811 A Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV 005 0005 Serial number: 00000000000006505260 Coding: 010200 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels: 5Q0-909-144.clb Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R HW: 5Q0 909 144 R Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 126 1061 Coding: 0103 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140 ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB.rod VCID: 43851D11CA21922600-8016 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: None Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392 E HW: 5Q4 959 392 B Component: TSG BFS 010 0031 Serial number: 0000155413532 Coding: 001001208000040000001100 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001 ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_SK37.rod VCID: 44871E0DCF2F951E39-8010 Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A HW: 5Q0 959 812 A Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG 005 0005 Serial number: 00000000000006454842 Coding: 190200 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None Part No SW: 5Q0 035 840 A HW: 5Q0 035 840 A Component: MU-S--ER H24 0241 Serial number: SKZAZ2R8645499 Coding: 03730200FF00000011110001000000002F0200C40120010002 Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063 ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022 ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_SE25.rod VCID: 2B5555B142B17A66D8-807E Media Player Position 1: Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 605 H HW: 5E0 919 605 H Component: ABT_Std-2 H41 1028 Serial number: SKZ8Z9RBS0080L No fault code found.

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[aki78]

Yep 42 and 52 are the door controllers, you have 5Q4 959 392 B & 393 B, cheaper ones with less function I'm afraid. :(

According to the manual from USP motorsports the mirror is connected to the connector marked with the red arrow.

You miss a lot of pins. :(

Good news is the 32-pin connector is almost the same so there's hope for you for the door warning lamps

 

Edited 15 October, 2015 by aki78

[milanj]

Yep 42 and 52 are the door controllers, you have 5Q4 959 392 B & 393 B, cheaper ones with less function I'm afraid. :(

According to the manual from USP motorsports the mirror is connected to the connector marked with the red arrow.

You miss a lot of pins. :(

Good news is the 32-pin connector is almost the same so there's hope for you for the door warning lamps

In general, if I can get door warning lights, that's good, puddle lights would be a long shot anyway. But to be sure, I'd need wiring diagrams for my controller. Since you are more resourceful on this VAG stuff - any idea how or where could I get them?

Br

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[milanj]

Ok, I declare a win-lose-win situation.

 

Check this out (attachment), got it from a guy on VWWatercooled forums.

 

Win - warning lights YES

This diagram confirms your info regarding wiring pins for door warning lights (32 pin connector, pin 16) on all 4 "levels" of door controller.

 

Lose - puddle lights NO

If I cross check your picture of 393 controller with this diagram I have "FA min" of "BF min" variant, so no puddle lights which I believe are pin 1 on higher variants.

 

Win - inner door handle lightning YES 

Positive news is I see all 4 variants have pin for inner door handle lightning, which is also something I planned for retroffit (32 pin connector, pin 3)

 

 

Hope this diagram helps others to.

puerta.pdf

[milanj]

Regarding puddle lights. Thinking.. It's still an option if I could identify "+" for inner lighting, the one that activates upon unlocking of car and deactivates after boarding (when all doors close).

[aki78]

Ok, I declare a win-lose-win situation.

 

Check this out (attachment), got it from a guy on VWWatercooled forums.

 

Win - warning lights YES

This diagram confirms your info regarding wiring pins for door warning lights (32 pin connector, pin 16) on all 4 "levels" of door controller.

 

Lose - puddle lights NO

If I cross check your picture of 393 controller with this diagram I have "FA min" of "BF min" variant, so no puddle lights which I believe are pin 1 on higher variants.

 

Win - inner door handle lightning YES 

Positive news is I see all 4 variants have pin for inner door handle lightning, which is also something I planned for retroffit (32 pin connector, pin 3)

 

 

Hope this diagram helps others to.

Thanks for sharing the diagram.

Door panel lighting project started here, first tests:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Rdf0EtDf4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgZAVzbjKY0

I am using 4500K silicone coated 5630 led stips (small cuts with 3 leds).

They are too bright at the moment. I will have to add some resistors.

Brightness can be adjusted in paralell with instument lighting.

Edited 16 October, 2015 by aki78

[milanj]

U used pin 3 on 32pin connector? Did you had to enable via VCDS?

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[aki78]

U used pin 3 on 32pin connector? Did you had to enable via VCDS?

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Yes and yes.

Byte 1, bit 3 on controllers 42 & 52.

[milanj]

Did you get any CANBUS errors on LEDs? Probably not as this lighting I believe is originally meant to be LED...

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[aki78]

Did you get any CANBUS errors on LEDs? Probably not as this lighting I believe is originally meant to be LED...

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You can use only LEDs.

Door controller can take only small current on PIN3.

0,21 A was too much in my case (60 cm 5630 LED strip for testing). Controller switched off the output.

I had to clear the fault codes with VCDS...

[milanj]

Yes, I've read somewhere the original door handle lighting on Octavia 3 is just a small barely noticeable LED..

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[milanj]

You can use only LEDs.

Door controller can take only small current on PIN3.

0,21 A was too much in my case (60 cm 5630 LED strip for testing). Controller switched off the output.

I had to clear the fault codes with VCDS...

Which connectors (terminals) did you use for door warning lights? I got this ones of ebay, used them for BCM on footwell retrofit, but figured out they are not the same on door controllers when I wanted to retrofit door warning lights.

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[aki78]

Which connectors (terminals) did you use for door warning lights? I got this ones of ebay, used them for BCM on footwell retrofit, but figured out they are not the same on door controllers when I wanted to retrofit door warning lights.

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I think the terminal/repair wire part no. is 000979009 or 000979009E.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X000979009.TRS0&_nkw=000979009&_sacat=0

It seems that retrofitters are using this:

https://www.google.hu/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=SRgtVvv4PKSt8weygJ-QBg&gws_rd=ssl#q=000979009+door+controller

By the way I used terminals from an old PC speaker's connector. They fit with some small modification.

Edited 25 October, 2015 by aki78

[milanj]

I think the terminal/repair wire part no. is 000979009 or 000979009E.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X000979009.TRS0&_nkw=000979009&_sacat=0

It seems that retrofitters are using this:

https://www.google.hu/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=SRgtVvv4PKSt8weygJ-QBg&gws_rd=ssl#q=000979009+door+controller

By the way I used terminals from an old PC speaker's connector. They fit with some small modification.

Ok, thanks again.

 

And one more questions. Can you describe VCDS coding for door safety lamps please. Thank you!

[aki78]

Ok, thanks again.

 

And one more questions. Can you describe VCDS coding for door safety lamps please. Thank you!

It's easy. Open controller 42 -> [Coding 07] -> [Long Coding Helper] -> Byte 1 -> enable Bit 2 -> exit Long Coding Helper -> [Do It!]

Do the same on controller 52 and you are finished.

The manual from USP motorsports (in post #99) will help you if you still unsure about the coding steps Just make sure you tick the above mentioned bit and don't touch others.

This is an edited pic for you from the manual.

[aki78]

I think the terminal/repair wire part no. is 000979009 or 000979009E.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X000979009.TRS0&_nkw=000979009&_sacat=0

It seems that retrofitters are using this:

https://www.google.hu/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=SRgtVvv4PKSt8weygJ-QBg&gws_rd=ssl#q=000979009+door+controller

By the way I used terminals from an old PC speaker's connector. They fit with some small modification.

If you want to make your own wires here are some alternatives for the terminal.

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-133359.html

Tyco/RS version is available in my country at very low price

Other sources:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=245319&page=2

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=245319&page=3

Some male-female combinations:

http://www.vaglinks.com/Docs/Catalogues/nsxjr.com_Audipins.pdf

Edited 27 October, 2015 by aki78

[milanj]

Ok, I ordered this ones: http://si.farnell.com/te-connectivity-amp/963715-1/contact-socket-20-awg-crimp/dp/1330225

 

Let's see if it fits

 

Oh, footwell retrofit was completed over weekend and yesterday proper VAG coding was done!

[aki78]

Ok, I ordered this ones: http://si.farnell.com/te-connectivity-amp/963715-1/contact-socket-20-awg-crimp/dp/1330225

 

Let's see if it fits

 

Oh, footwell retrofit was completed over weekend and yesterday proper VAG coding was done!

Congrats for your new footwell lighting, good job.

I guess you're happy with it.

Edited 28 October, 2015 by aki78

[milanj]

Congrats for your new footwell lighting, good job.

I guess you're happy with it.

Yeah, just that maybe LEDs are a bit to strong even at 10% setting.. I'll try adding a 500 ohm resistor, to see how much I'll dim it down.

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[aki78]

Yeah, just that maybe LEDs are a bit to strong even at 10% setting.. I'll try adding a 500 ohm resistor, to see how much I'll dim it down.

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You can lower the brightness (voltage) with VCDS, it's easier.

[milanj]

You can lower the brightness (voltage) with VCDS, it's easier.

Yes, I've been already told so by user @mtl, he's my VCDS coder

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[steveb1970]

Yes, I've been already told so by user @mtl, he's my VCDS coder

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Yes, I set my maximum at 85 if recall correctly.

[mtl]

Yes, I set my maximum at 85 if recall correctly.

It probably depends on the LED. Currently they are set to 90%, but my feeling tells me that in milanj case they should be set to close to 50%, because they are really strong...