Still way cheaper to source a brand new car via Broadspeed and Drivethedeal than buying a used ex-demo which might have been thrashed for a couple of thousand miles, and you can choose your own spec

 

Think the only issue is leadtime and a buyer who wants something now. Only good reason I can think of.

Well ,I'm no longer the only Lapiz Blue "R in the village. "

5dr DSG sitting on 19".

Edited 14 November, 201510 yr by vrskeith

Well, been looking at the 'R' for a while and have a test drive booked with a local dealer next Wednesday, a proper run out on different roads and no time constraints.  I'm kicking myself a bit because the lease deals are not as good as those recently, hey ho.  It'll be a 5 door hatch with a manual box for me in standard trim to keep cost down.  Bonus is the sales rep must be the best looking lass within VW! :p

Edited 14 November, 201510 yr by Chubbs

Well, been looking at the 'R' for a while and have a test drive booked with a local dealer next Wednesday, a proper run out on different roads and no time constraints. I'm kicking myself a bit because the lease deals are not as good as those recently, hey ho. It'll be a 5 door hatch with a manual box for me in standard trim to keep cost down. Bonus is the sales rep must be the best looking lass within VW! :p

Simples ,deal done,no need to test drive.

New tactic by VW to offset emission.

Enjoy the drive!

This is Jeremy Clarkson's take on the R estate from today's Sunday Times.

 

CHOOSING what car you are going to buy is always 10 times more enjoyable than actually buying it. So when I decided I needed a Volkswagen Golf GTI in my life, I spent many hours on the company’s configurator, examining colours and options and working out whether the aesthetic appeal of the bigger wheels would compensate for the inevitable loss of comfort.

Eventually, of course, I had to give up the delicious procrastination and place my order. It wasn’t easy. One dealer laughed in my face and said I’d have to wait six months. Another said I’d never get the car I wanted at all but he had a very nice Scirocco R that I could have instead. “I’m sure you also have a potted plant,” I said, “but I don’t want that either.”

In the end, I gave up with the telephone and drove to my nearest dealership, which, it turned out, is shut on a Saturday. How did it make that one work in a business plan? And then it turned out not to be a dealership at all.

I could have given up and bought something else, but my heart was set on a GTI. I’d had enough of driving flash cars because they cause other motorists to take pictures on their cameraphones. Constantly. I wanted something that would attract no attention. Something grey. And I’d always wanted a GTI, ever since 1980. It was a dull, unfulfilled ache, but when the Mk 7 version came along a few years ago it became an all-consuming need. It’s really, really good, that car, and I wanted one a lot.

My persistence was eventually rewarded — though when I say “persistence”, what I actually mean is “contacts at VW’s head office” — and in September a brand new car arrived at my house on the back of a lorry. I was very excited and was tempted to jump up and down clutching my tinkle, until I noticed that the car had five doors. Two more than I’d wanted. With a five-door car you can’t drive along with your arm out of the window because the B-pillar is in the way. I’d thought about that a lot while choosing the car. But then I’d forgotten to tick the right box on the form, and that was that.

There was another problem too. On holiday in France this year I used a Golf R, which is a bit like the GTI only it has 78 more brake horsepower and four-wheel drive and the wheels look less lost in the arches. I liked it enormously. And you would too. I don’t care what you drive now: I can pretty much guarantee that if you took an R out for a test drive, you’d want it in your life immediately.

However, to convince myself that the GTI is still better, I’ve told myself over and over that the R is a bit knowing, a bit anoraky, a bit Subaruish. And then last week an R estate came to my house . . .

Commentators have observed that this is a silly car because in basic rental spec it costs upwards of £33,000 and that is too much for a Golf. I sympathise with this argument because I’m well aware you should never buy the most expensive house in the street.

However, let’s just look for a moment at what you’re getting. First, it is an estate car and so, with the back seats folded down, there’s space in the back for a small horse and all the paraphernalia that goes with it.

And then at the front you have the GTI engine, which has better pistons and valves and a whizzier turbocharger, so it churns out as near as makes no difference 300bhp. This is allied to a double-clutch gearbox that features a launch control system, though I strongly advise you not to use this facility if you do in fact have a small horse in the back because it will fall over. Ooh, it’s brisk.

In between the horse and the horsepower, you have the bit where you live, and this is perhaps the best part because not only is it all screwed together to a standard way beyond what you could reasonably expect, but also, if you choose your options carefully, you want for nothing at all.

This is a car that can read out text messages, help you stay in lane on the motorway, apply the brakes if it thinks you’re going to crash and a million other things.

What we have here, then, is a commodious, fast, comfortable, quiet and very well equipped four-wheel-drive car. Which brings me on to the Range Rover.

Round where I live in Chipping Norton, my friends all used to have Range Rovers. But now you get the impression that absolutely everybody has one. I was at the local farm shop last weekend and in the car park I counted 37 of the damn things. And I’m not talking about Evoques. I’m talking about the big, hundred-grand jobs.

The Range Rover has become a uniform, and I’m sorry but when I’m presented with a dress code, I’m consumed by an overwhelming need to wear something else. I love the Range Rover. It’s magnificent, but here’s the thing: is it better than a Golf R estate? Look at the figures. No, actually, don’t bother, because of course they come from Volkswagen, which means they’re probably plucked from the sky. Ja, it does one million miles an hour und 40,000 miles to ze gallon.

It doesn’t, but it is very, very fast and very beautiful to drive. The compromise between ride and handling is judged perfectly, and so’s the noise. It’s quiet most of the time, but when you accelerate hard it produces a snarly bark that makes you go all tingly. And, best of all, if you crash into a tree it’s cheap to repair because most of the panels are the same as they are on a Golf diesel.

All things considered, then, this is a five-star car — except for one rather enormous problem. The styling. VW decided R-spec cars should not be showy in any way. They wouldn’t even get the little red flashes that you find on a GTI. They’d look to the untrained eye like a run-of-the-mill model. I approve of that. I like a Q-car.

It’s a philosophy that works well for the hatch because that’s a good-looking vehicle in the first place. The estate, however, isn’t. It’s dumpy and bulbous. And in the R spec it looks stupid because it’s dumpy and bulbous but there are four exhaust pipes sticking out of the back. Which make it look like some kind of weird turbocharged whale.

So there we are. A very impressive car. Ruined.

 

The quad exhausts are the only bit of the R I dislike. I much prefer the dual GTI version.

This is Jeremy Clarkson's take on the R estate from today's Sunday Times.

 

The estate, however, isn’t. It’s dumpy and bulbous. And in the R spec it looks stupid because it’s dumpy and bulbous but there are four exhaust pipes sticking out of the back. Which make it look like some kind of weird turbocharged whale.

 

 

If he thinks the MK7 estate is dumpy & bulbous try looking at the MK5 & MK6..............well & truly bulbous.............the MK7 is the best looking Golf estate ever IMO.........but I am not bias.............cough, cough...

 

 

 

The quad exhausts are the only bit of the R I dislike.

 

My thoughts exactly..............& the DSG only option.............arrrgghhhhh.........

 

 

Mind you if a manual version was made I would get & it is easy to get rid of the four exhausts...

 

It seems everyone is adding loads of dual exit, flipping factory spec Clio RS?? has them also....................dual exit exhaust should only be allowed if the car is "V" engine otherwise there is no need for them mechanically..................

The quad exhausts are the only bit of the R I dislike. I much prefer the dual GTI version.

Agreed.

Or the R mk 6 twin exhausts.

Oh and the 18 inch wheels dont suit my taste.

I initially thought the standard wheels were not that nice but since having them they have grown on me, really like them and easy to keep clean and really shine nicely at night under led street lights.

A twin centre exhaust would suit the R better than the four pipes IMO

I initially thought the standard wheels were not that nice but since having them they have grown on me, really like them and easy to keep clean and really shine nicely at night under led street lights.

A twin centre exhaust would suit the R better than the four pipes IMO

Prefer them to the 19 optional ones though?

Yeah 4 pipes is too much imo. Same with the s3. Im just not into it.

Dont get me wrong, it doesnt look out of place on some cars. Just not a hatch.

If all I have to worry about on my R Hatch,is two extra pipes and Clarkson's pathetic concluding summary,then I think I can die a happy man.

Oh! the R Estate is a pretty good package also.

Defenderben,totally agree with your view on the 18" look , practicality and above all a much better ride.

Who is Clarkson anyway? Hope he enjoys his days in court!

Edited 15 November, 201510 yr by vrskeith

If all I have to worry about on my R Hatch,is two extra pipes and Clarkson's pathetic concluding summary,then I think I can die a happy man.

Oh! the R Estate is a pretty good package also.

Defenderben,totally agree with your view on the 18" look , practicality and above all a much better ride.

Who is Clarkson anyway? Hope he enjoys his days in court!

Dont get upset lol

Hes only the most famous uk car reviewer i can think of. Okay top gear wasnt exactly full of reviews on reasonable cars, but he does do columns too, and has driven more cars than most of us can think the names of.

But yeah. Not doing so bad.

All hes saying is that its a good car, but doesnt look and stand out as it should. I can see wheres hes coming from. You do have to look hard to pick one out. One chrome line on the grill.

Edited 15 November, 201510 yr by fabiamk2SE

JC is a pillock. I once had a young lad come in to part-ex a 4.0 W8 Passat. he said he got it because JC said it was brilliant and when he met JC at a motor show, he had his hand warmly shaken by the part time pugilist and congratulated on his wise choice of repmobile.

 

Sadly we couldn't take the car in as to use the boss's words " its not so much that you have cornered the market in these cars, but rather you are the market" Poor guy, he probably still has the car today.

Ordered mine today.

Vehicle Details

Make:Volkswagen

Model:GOLF HATCHBACK

Derivative:2.0 TSI R 3dr DSG

Options

Heat insulated tinted glass 90% light absorbing from B pillar back

Dynamic chassis control

Advance telephone connection

Car-Net App-Connect

Rear view camera

Tech Pack - Golf Hatchback

Winter pack - Golf (when ordered with Bi-Xenon headlights)

Premium paint - Oryx White

19" Pretoria alloy wheels

Full tank of fuel

Also ordered a gti for my dad:

VW Golf GTI:

5 door manual

Tornado Red

Rear View camera

90% Tint

Full tank of fuel

I like the quad exhausts. Will sound better when I get a miltek too and the valve mod

Hopefully will get in time for 1st March.

Now the 4 month wait begins

Edited 16 November, 201510 yr by jrw

Does VW run the same system as BMW when you order a car? With BMW the dealer has a slot for say a 1 series and when you order your car, it becomes that 'slot', you just fill in the blanks with the spec, engine etc. That way you know the build date and roughly the date of delivery of your car too.

 

Btw I like the look of your cars

Edited 16 November, 201510 yr by Lady Elanore

Does VW run the same system as BMW when you order a car? With BMW the dealer has a slot for say a 1 series and when you order your car, it becomes that 'slot', you just fill in the blanks with the spec, engine etc. That way you know the build date and roughly the date of delivery of your car too.

Btw I like the look of your cars

I believe so because I told my broker to avoid a dealer I've had trouble with before and he said he only uses them when his usual dealer runs out of build slots.

But then went on to say the build time for a 'normal' golf is around 12 weeks but the R could be up to 20. So don't know if they are on a different line or something.

Thanks, should be good picking up two brand new cars together.

Don't know whether to spec the sunroof or not!

Got 12.5% discount off list which I don't think is too shabby

There is also a new thing launched today which vw give you £1000 if you already own a vw so my dad is getting his deposit contribution paid for taking pcp (£1250) and then paying off straight away then another £1000 for owning a golf already on top of the 12.5% discount!

Jrw,

Well done you two,sounds like a couple of good deals.

Nice specs.

Who have you used as brokers?

Just in time for the new reg.

Enjoy!!

Jrw,

Well done you two,sounds like a couple of good deals.

Nice specs.

Who have you used as brokers?

Just in time for the new reg.

Enjoy!!

Thanks, I went a bit overboard with options on mine but it's going to be my toy, which I will keep for a very long time so thought why not.

Used carfile.net who got within 100 quid of drive the deal which suits me as they use a local dealer. Jonathan, the owner is a nice chap too which is what makes a difference when making purchases like this.

I used drive the deal for my vrs previously and had to go to London for it.

Ordered mine today.

Vehicle Details

Make:Volkswagen

Model:GOLF HATCHBACK

Derivative:2.0 TSI R 3dr DSG

Options

Heat insulated tinted glass 90% light absorbing from B pillar back

Dynamic chassis control

Advance telephone connection

Car-Net App-Connect

Rear view camera

Tech Pack - Golf Hatchback

Winter pack - Golf (when ordered with Bi-Xenon headlights)

Premium paint - Oryx White

19" Pretoria alloy wheels

Full tank of fuel

Also ordered a gti for my dad:

VW Golf GTI:

5 door manual

Tornado Red

Rear View camera

90% Tint

Full tank of fuel

I like the quad exhausts. Will sound better when I get a miltek too and the valve mod

Hopefully will get in time for 1st March.

Now the 4 month wait begins

Very nice indeed! :-)

I can see idea behind 4 pipes on S3 to class all S cars the same. Overkill yes but I guess there is a theme.

On the R I would have liked them to stay on tradition but hope the fix it if R400 comes out

Haven't added to the drivel for a while so another contribution from Moi.. ​ Came across this when looking for an A45,. :p ​ Cheapest R around, one careful owner,.. even went to the trouble of re-spraying it and changing the plates..

 

http://www.copart.co.uk/uk/Lot/33120695?searchId=887270232#

Edited 19 November, 201510 yr by B33fy

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-term-tests/volkswagen/vw-golf-r-2015-long-term-test-review/

Sorry Carmagazine but this long term review is a joke currently,no depth or real interest from your"long term" experience. Stolen car or otherwise,no excuse for the poor quality of this article.

Maybe you need to buy the magazine for more in-depth articles?

Maybe you need to buy the magazine for more in-depth articles?[/quot

Environmentalist, prefer to save the forest and the need to recyle all that waste.

Bit like VW emissions engineers ,I cheat a bit.lol

Very commendable. You can subscribe to their digital edition instead then!

 

Car Magazine: Digital Edition

 

Cheat by all means - just don't expect the same level of content