hi all, now I know im going to sound a total **** and if you want to rant about what's abs for and you shouldn't mess with it welllll do it else where!!!! basically I would like to know, is it possible to adjust the tolerances as to when the abs kicks in??? ie allow you to lock up for say 2 or 3 seconds before it backs off the pressure, as I am finding when im going as some pace down "private roads" that when under braking and one corner goes light due to a sudden dip then I kinda loose the brakes briefly before it comes back which isn't un driveable but it would be nice to kinda eliminate that sort of behaviour. 

 

Thanks all Dave xx

You should still be getting optimum braking as only the wheel "going light" should be affected and locking that up will not improve things. More pressure on the pedal.
ABS kicks in when it monitors a wheel locking so will act pretty instantly, there is no option as far as I know to introduce a "delay".

A driver can only control the brakes on all four wheels at once.  ABS monitors and modulates each wheel's brake individually reacting to a lessen of grip by easing off that brake momentarily whilst maintaining braking on the other wheels - how do you intend to beat that?  It has been a legal requirement for sometime (since 2003?) for all cars (except if less than a certain number built?) sold in the EU to be equipped with non-cancellable ABS.

ABS is horrible but we're stuck with it, I drive round it and can't remember the last time it kicked in, I can stop faster than it can by braking at the limit of adhesion and making sure it doesn't intervene. Try it.

Try braking BEFORE the corner not ON it. Then the car will be ballanced ,Safer, more stable and therefore quicker on your prvt roads.

Key to fabias are power... brake earlier set car up into the corner and your already feeding power on earlier in the corner so gaining 4/5mph safely out of the corner. Amd on a good straight you will gain allot of distance from it

And you can brake as hard as you want then in a straight line safely

Your probly not experiencing abs. Your just experiencing weigh shifting around car makibg back end light amd skittish

I would say slow down before at the least, you experience going backwards through a hedge at speed. That's possibly educational, but far from the only possible outcome.

 

Your post suggests that you are driving to the limits of the car on public roads. And probably smaller roads at that. All it would take would be the odd sheep/cow or party of hikers to ruin your life.

 

If you want to drive fast, consider a track day or driving tuition/experience day at a race track/airfield. Make it about doing it right than outright speed.

 

J.

No.

ABS is horrible but we're stuck with it, I drive round it and can't remember the last time it kicked in, I can stop faster than it can by braking at the limit of adhesion and making sure it doesn't intervene. Try it.

Oh yes, learning to brake to 98% of when the ABS triggers is a skill, and will minimise your braking distances.

hi all, now I know im going to sound a total **** and if you want to rant about what's abs for and you shouldn't mess with it welllll do it else where!!!! basically I would like to know, is it possible to adjust the tolerances as to when the abs kicks in??? ie allow you to lock up for say 2 or 3 seconds before it backs off the pressure, as I am finding when im going as some pace down "private roads" that when under braking and one corner goes light due to a sudden dip then I kinda loose the brakes briefly before it comes back which isn't un driveable but it would be nice to kinda eliminate that sort of behaviour. 

 

Thanks all Dave xx

If you're being honest about private roads, pull the ABS fuse and live with the warning light on the facia.

 

Otherwise consider that 3s is your entire braking time from 90mph to rest, and that Skodas from the Octavia A4 on all have 4-channel ABS so in the circumstances you describe the ABS, if triggered, only backs off the one corner that's light.

You can demonstrate this to yourself if you can find a quiet NSL road with loose gravel down the side. Brake hard with all 4 wheels on tar, then steer onto the gravel and feel the rate of deceleration reduce. If you have time, steer back onto the good tar and feel the rate build again.

ABS is horrible but we're stuck with it, I drive round it and can't remember the last time it kicked in, I can stop faster than it can by braking at the limit of adhesion and making sure it doesn't intervene. Try it.

yeh quite an art. Or that moment that you have to stop quick on a corner (corner that tightens without you knowing) (or car pulling out) you know that if you dont slow down you hit it. If you brake too much you'll not be able to manoeuvre around it. Everything slows down and time seems to stand still like matrix lol

thanks all for the advice but like I said.... private roads I wasn't looking for a lecture how to drive, what to drive and where! and braking in a corner... please! is that what excuse you pulled out of the hat to have a rant? i would like a simple answer.... can it be done or not? i don't want lectured by some fanny driven too gooders! as too taking the fuse out... hmm ive been told that doing that upsets the abs pump causing the brake bias to be all over the place as one front is joined with a rear and vise versa so im not too keen on trying that one haha thanks though!. oh and as for the hedge experience... yes ive encountered that many times as a passenger and once as a driver, not my best experience and defiantly not my proudest but thanks for the concern as im sure your some kind of mythical expert. look im not some chav douche back racing around car parks, if you must know im participating in a road rally next week, now im running brembo discs with ferodo ds2500 pads all around, for those who don't know what ds2500 pads are well..... there basically one of the most used racing pad of this generation... i should know as im heavy involved within the racing scene and the rallying scene.

 

once again thank you all for the advice ;-)

 

Dave xx

AS far as I'm aware there is no option in VCDS to adjust the tolerances. Even in the latest MQB cars (Octavia, Golf) you can adjust the reaction time/release times of the "hold" on the brakes in handbrake or Autohold, but only have about 3 options.

AS far as I'm aware there is no option in VCDS to adjust the tolerances. Even in the latest MQB cars (Octavia, Golf) you can adjust the reaction time/release times of the "hold" on the brakes in handbrake or Autohold, but only have about 3 options.

cheers mate much appreciated!!!

"Private roads" <--- just like that, you wrote it. Euphemism for speeding about or racing and not getting caught. You must know that, unless you've been living under a bridge since the internet was born.

 

As to the OP, try chatting with Felicia16V, He may have come up with something.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/293490-fabia-vrs-tdi-stage-rally-car-build/?hl=%20felicia16v

 

J.

thanks all for the advice but like I said.... private roads I wasn't looking for a lecture how to drive, what to drive and where! and braking in a corner... please! is that what excuse you pulled out of the hat to have a rant? i would like a simple answer.... can it be done or not? i don't want lectured by some fanny driven too gooders! as too taking the fuse out... hmm ive been told that doing that upsets the abs pump causing the brake bias to be all over the place as one front is joined with a rear and vise versa so im not too keen on trying that one haha thanks though!. oh and as for the hedge experience... yes ive encountered that many times as a passenger and once as a driver, not my best experience and defiantly not my proudest but thanks for the concern as im sure your some kind of mythical expert. look im not some chav douche back racing around car parks, if you must know im participating in a road rally next week, now im running brembo discs with ferodo ds2500 pads all around, for those who don't know what ds2500 pads are well..... there basically one of the most used racing pad of this generation... i should know as im heavy involved within the racing scene and the rallying scene.

once again thank you all for the advice ;-)

Dave xx

road rallies are ROAD rallies. Public roads

DS2500's are good pads. Very good but squeel like hell under normal driving lol.

brake just under the abs factory and you'll stop quicker. I think your easier altering your driving instead of altering abs on the car.

Locked wheels means no steering and less braking

for all the hassle. Just learn to brake less hard. Smoother driving =quicker

Dust, hot dust too, stick like poo to a blanket on yer previously glistening alloys...