^^^^ it was developed as a tow vehicle for Graham.

Whose Graham (a part from Norton and Greene?)

Whose Graham (a part from Norton and Greene?)

Ah!

He has no patience for our waffle

He has a very large red pen which he wields often when we get out of line

You WILL be subjected to his presence eventually

Lady Elanore,

re Batteries and charging.

Have all the Onshore and Offshore Windfarms and Turbines gone un-noticed by you?

All the Electricity Generating capacity that is not getting used off peak and often is totally wasted due to the lack of storage 

other than with Hydro Pumping Stations.

Use and storage in Vehicle Power packs and using the electricity to produce Hydrogen is how the plan is supposed to work.

Not Rocket Science or even Rocket Fuel, just using Renewables on which the UK has spent loads on being able to generate.

http://renewables-map.co.uk/windfarm.asp

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-31040723

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-27071303

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-34694463

Blimey!!  28 posts since 10pm last night!  Do some people never go to bed?

 

Seriously though, should the posts about batteries etc not be in a seperate theme.  This is supposed to be about VW's mucky diesels and the forthcoming remedy.

^^^^

Were do you see that in the OP's Post, Title?  When he started this thread it was about VW / Audi Recalls in the US.

There is a Motoring News / Announcements Section on Briskoda with a Thread on Recall Actions.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/373512-vw-uk-action-plan-for-ea-189-eu5-engine

 

Tumble weed waiting for news in 2016 on the likes of those with VW Engines getting their 'Fix', 

does it really matter if there is a wider discussion going on in between.?

 

*VW / Skoda will contact you when you need to take your car in for any Recall Action.*

Blimey!!  28 posts since 10pm last night!  Do some people never go to bed?   Seriously though, should the posts about batteries etc not be in a seperate theme.  This is supposed to be about VW's mucky diesels and the forthcoming remedy.

 

The remedy might well be that we cannot allow most diesels cars, buses, trucks etc, in our cities and therefore need electric, hybrid or small petrol engined cars to drive in the urban areas.  We cannot wait beyond spring next year and future years to allow the amount of NO and PMs going in to urban air and whilst not allowing most current diesels within the M25 or the Birmingham M5, M6, M42 defined area. The lecky car etc do provide a solution.

If we can leave the polluting cars at the periphery of these cities and travel on by cleaner transport hence the change from discussing how VW were caught in the US to actual solutions on how we can move forward to reduce the 29K pa UK premature deaths by air pollution and the 100Ks of ones each in Europe, US, China, India etc.   

Blimey!!  28 posts since 10pm last night!  Do some people never go to bed?

 

Seriously though, should the posts about batteries etc not be in a seperate theme.  This is supposed to be about VW's mucky diesels and the forthcoming remedy.

Blimey!

We're in for it now........at least I'll have company in the CORNER

Blimey!!  28 posts since 10pm last night!  Do some people never go to bed?

 

Seriously though, should the posts about batteries etc not be in a seperate theme.  This is supposed to be about VW's mucky diesels and the forthcoming remedy.

 

also the internet is nearly full up......this much waffle or more on every car website in the world :peek:

Wind power is a joke. Yes it works when there is wind, but it has the fatal flaw of not working on a windless day. I wanted to like it, but it is not reliable. it's a bandaid to our energy demands

 

Anyhoo, what I wondered was if there was say around 35,000,000 cars in the UK and lets say 20,000,000 of them were some sort of new mega battery. One that could hold the same amount of energy as a 12 gallon petrol tank and that could be recharged in 20 minutes, the demand for energy would be massive. That's just cars, if trucks could use this technology then I can imagine it would make a real dent on the supply of electricity around the country. I'm sure someone on here can do a quick calculation

 

Did anyone ever try one of those magnet things that was supposed to improve economy (and presumably emissions ) and power?

Goneoffskion1 is correct about off peak electricty generation. Dinorwig power station was built to use this and the release at peak times.

Thankfully the UK and Ireland (& RoW) have smart people that can get on and move on with new technology.

Electricity is easy to produce from renewable sources, requires no processing using more energies /resources like the Extraction and Refining and transporting Oil / Liquid and Gas Fuels requires, and Electricity is a very different resource from Oil, Gas and minerals.

The one big advance needed is storage, but transportation is easier than with Oil, Gas & Minerals,

and there are many getting on with developing storage as best they can.

http://greentechmedia.com/articles/read/irelands-energy-storage-awakening

http://bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32545081

If we stored wind power, I could see it making sense, but as it becomes a bigger and bigger investment and therefore has to make it's money, it will be relied on more and more. Options are limited for storing this wind power, the only one I can imagine working to some degree is using water as potential energy, I think there are a couple of these hydro systems in Scotland, where water is pumped up into a reservoir during off peak times?

If you have a wee look and a google you will see about the North Sea Supergrid, and Interconnectors to Norway,

and then the Pollution Reduction Targets that Europe including the UK are going to fail to meet.

 

So the Renewables need to be used, and the Infrarstucture already in Scotland and Northern Ireland and Ireland 

is helping the UK to get to meeting what it signed up to.

Carbon Capture off Peterhead, new Capture Systems in the Irish Sea etc.

Pump Storage in Wales and elsewhere.

There's no reliable storage for renewables.

 

During the high pressure weather through September and October on many days wind was producing less than 0.05% of the UK's electricity.

 

You need back up capacity and that's why Capacity Market payments start in 2018 for plant to stand idle incase the wind doesn't blow.

 

We pay a subsidy to generators to build wind turbines then pay another payment to generators for backup plant to stand idle.

 

And we wonder why we have the most expensive energy costs in the world.

 

Lee

If you have a wee look and a google you will see about the North Sea Supergrid, and Interconnectors to Norway,

and then the Pollution Reduction Targets that Europe including the UK are going to fail to meet.

 

So the Renewables need to be used, and the Infrarstucture already in Scotland and Northern Ireland and Ireland 

is helping the UK to get to meeting what it signed up to.

 

Are China and India really that bothered? Meanwhile UK Steel and Manufacturing goes to the wall because our Energy costs are seven times higher?

Well China have ownership of the Refinery & Petrohemical Processing plant in Scotland.

They own the Licences for Fracking and Gas Extraction in the Central Belt of Scotland.

The Refinery has just bought Oil & Gas Fields in the Noth Sea.

The Refinery and Petrochemical plant have their own Oil & Gas power Station to power things.

China is providing the Steel for the Wind Turbines, and much more, Forth Crossing etc.

 

China is paying to build the new UK Nuclear Power Station that the French will build.

So China cares a little bit, as they have much invested in the UK, 

and they also have many contracts for products and technology bought from the UK.

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-32071276

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-34499653

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33474000

Well China have ownership of the Refinery in Scotland.

The Refinery has just bought Oil & Gas Fields in the Noth Sea.

China is providing the Steel for the Wind Turbines, and much more, Forth Crossing etc.

 

Yes they are providing subsidised steel for our expensive wind turbines made in their steel works powered by cheap energy from Chinese coal fired power stations.

 

So we get expensive energy, a loss of UK jobs, and no real reduction in world CO2 levels.

 

Does anyone else think that's crazy?

 

Lee

Edited 2 November, 201510 yr by logiclee

The remedy might well be that we cannot allow most diesels cars, buses, trucks etc, in our cities and therefore need electric, hybrid or small petrol engined cars to drive in the urban areas.  We cannot wait beyond spring next year and future years to allow the amount of NO and PMs going in to urban air and whilst not allowing most current diesels within the M25 or the Birmingham M5, M6, M42 defined area. The lecky car etc do provide a solution.

If we can leave the polluting cars at the periphery of these cities and travel on by cleaner transport hence the change from discussing how VW were caught in the US to actual solutions on how we can move forward to reduce the 29K pa UK premature deaths by air pollution and the 100Ks of ones each in Europe, US, China, India etc.   

 

What about business and deliveries and non-personal transport trips??? - you state only allowing small cars in urban areas so a totally unrealistic proposal as usual...

I haven't seen any mega battery's on the shelf?

 

Here is an article you will like

 

In my life we have had

 

• SP2/11/7 etc
• Duracell (wow they did last a bit longer)
• Ni Cads, recharables that worked (slight voltage drop though, oh and memory problems)
• Lithium Ion and lithium rechargeable types (better - withought the memeory problem.....except that's not totally true)

Overall the battery has improved a bit, but nothing stella in the last ......well lets say 40 years to be kind (to me). And in that time, we have been promised a miracle battery every few months. nope, the tech might be there, but the battery isn't imho :(

 

You forgot Nickel Metal Hydride rehargables (NiMH) between Ni Cads and Lithium Ion...   :p

 

Better than Ni Cads with little memory issue but only good for about 1000 cycles.

Did anyone ever try one of those magnet things that was supposed to improve economy (and presumably emissions ) and power?

 

I had one on my old Senator 24v, made a difference of..............................absolutely zero on mpg, I kept very accurate brim to brim records on that car, and it had no measurable difference by the Sun tuning equipment that was state of the art at that time to measure emissions. It did drive ever so slightly nicer, but that was about it.

 

I have been on this earth quite a few years now, and like you have lived through decades of being promised the next greatest thing to make our life better - remember Betamax tapes that were going to transform our lives forever?, where are they now?.

 

When industry sees new technology as a threat to the current large investment cartel, they will torpedo it in the harbour before it sets sail, it has been done so many times before. When I was 9, we had landed on the moon, and a decade later we were flying supersonic, we haven't exactly rocked the planet since then really

There is another issue with Electric cars.

 

The UK currently has a 4% power capacity above anticipated maximum demand in Winter.

 

It's estimated than if 1 in 1000 people swapped to electric cars and tried to charge them when they got home at night that would be enough to cause blackouts.

 

And the there's the local issues of the street and housing infrastructure that typically consists of single phase supplies on 16mm cable. 

 

Most street infrastructure will not have the capacity to have every house with EVSA 32Amp charging points.

 

Most people drive to and from work and would want to charge their car at home. 

 

There are still major obstacles to overcome.

I read somewhere about a 24kWh battery will run a small family car for around 70 miles (I've seen 2.5 miles per kWh quoted too). So if we have the new mega fast charge battery and increase range will we need around a 120kWh batteries for a 350 mile range, perhaps less as the new mega battery will be lighter possibly. If you then multiply that by 35 million (rough number of UK resisted cars and assuming we all end up with these types of transport :( ) that's around 5 million cars a day needing to fully recharge a 120kWh battery. It seems quiet a lot to me. Is there anyone on here that can work this out properly?

There is another issue with Electric cars.

 

The UK currently has a 4% power capacity above anticipated maximum demand in Winter.

 

It's estimated than if 1 in 1000 people swapped to electric cars and tried to charge them when they got home at night that would be enough to cause blackouts.

 

And the there's the local issues of the street and housing infrastructure that typically consists of single phase supplies on 16mm cable. 

 

Most street infrastructure will not have the capacity to have every house with EVSA 32Amp charging points.

 

Most people drive to and from work and would want to charge their car at home. 

 

There are still major obstacles to overcome.

Ah, you posted this before I did my above post. That's even more scary ^^^ when I read it

Only a couple of hundred years back people just put sewage out of the house and into the street.

People collected Water at a Well or pump in the street.

Then there was Paraffin and Gas Lights.

Running Water out of a a tap in Houses, Toliets in a out house, then a WC in a stair well, and only recently toilets in houses.

 

It is amazing how infrastructure changes and needs to change.

Now lots needs replaced, Sewers / Drains, Water Supplies, National Grid, Power Stations, and probably Filling Stations.

Dirty Polluting Power Stations are being closed and currently Nuclear ones are at their end of life 

even if the UK Government tried to extend their working life, there have just wasted billions.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-33970594

 

http://energysavingtrust.org.uk/electric-vehicle-network-0