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9 hours ago, Ryeman said:

220kW regen is highly impressive.

 

My lowly Nissan Leaf can only do 80kW forward power and 50kW regen.

 

Although Nissan Leaf is the fastest reversing car ;) 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/nissan-leaf-sets-world-record-for-fastest-car-in-reverse/

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43 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

220kW regen is highly impressive.

 

My lowly Nissan Leaf can only do 80kW forward power and 50kW regen.

 

Although Nissan Leaf is the fastest reversing car ;) 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/nissan-leaf-sets-world-record-for-fastest-car-in-reverse/

I guess Audi is suggesting a Brembo brake upgrade isn’t recommended :biggrin:

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4 hours ago, Sad555 said:

Is it true,not again.............VAG CHEATING AGAIN WITH CADMIUM IN BATTERIES AND WITHDRAWING BATT CARS.?

 

Their penance requirement -

http://www.autonews.com/article/20180813/RETAIL03/180819916/why-vw-paid-for-an-ad-featuring-chevys-bolt?cciid=email-autonews-daily

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Problem with "Leccie", is what will the Gulf states do with all that oil they pump out of the ground? 

It will have to be sold somewhere so they will sell it at a low, low price and governments will then try selling us petrol-hybrid fuelled cars all over again, as "AHEM", it was not so bad after all! By then, we will get 150MPG from oil based fuel and cleaner emissions anyway! 

Mark my words, it will go round all over again. 

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1 hour ago, mrgf said:

Problem with "Leccie", is what will the Gulf states do with all that oil they pump out of the ground? 

It will have to be sold somewhere so they will sell it at a low, low price and governments will then try selling us petrol-hybrid fuelled cars all over again, as "AHEM", it was not so bad after all! By then, we will get 150MPG from oil based fuel and cleaner emissions anyway! 

Mark my words, it will go round all over again. 

Demand drives supply and innovation and European Parliaments will legislate for cleaner air or expose themselves to litigation I recon.

Trump is a temporary aberration and California will resume/continue its clean air agenda depending on court action in the short term.

The Saudis have already decoupled from oil as it’s only future.

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Oil & Gas still need to make Petrol Chemicals and to lubricate and all the stuff oil is used for, even to transport goods around the world like the equipment to make renewable electricity and vehicles, and the plastics that make solar panels.

As it is everything used in the world comes from off or out of the ground as Elon Musk is not yet mining or drilling on planets or meteors in outer or inner space.

Producing vehicles needs lots of Electricity and Oil & Gas for the plastics / batteries, glass & lots of mining for minerals and metals that make cars.

 

Oil is not going to be short for a long time to come but drinking water and breathable air is going to be in short supply.

 

 

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1 minute ago, KenONeill said:

For instance, petro-chemicals are used in all the plastics that your "burn its fuel 50 miles away" battery needs.

.........and bitumen suppliers need .

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Water is not in short supply, its the one commodity we have more then enough of... Drinking water, yes, water, no. Then again, in middle eastern contours, the desalinate water. We are surrounded by the stuff so why can't we? Probably even use wind/wave technology to do it!

Thats water solved then!

Global warming melts ice caps, they create ozone and then oxygen. Then we cool down again and it starts over! (Well, it worked in Total Recall)!

 

Tongue firmly in cheek, here! I'll not hold my breath and wait for cleaner air.

 

BTW, on local news, they suggest kids have a smaller lung capacity now, then twenty years ago. Poor air etc. Nothing to do with sitting on their arses all day, playing computer games etc, then?  

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Drinking water is so valuable that the rich oil producing countries and corporations and individuals are staking their wealth on drinking water.  Land and equipment.  Pumps and storage and pipelines.   Sir Ian wood ex of Wood group and many other billionaires never got where they are without looking to the future.  Britain produces a lot of the equipment not only for water pumping but for franking and mining and many other essentials of modern life. 

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12 minutes ago, Offski said:

 

    PS,  the water the world has in the atmosphere and in the oceans and frozen in the icecaps is all there is for ever,  nobody can order more from Amazon or the Amazon,  and what there is might need lots of solar or whatever to keep it usable in just a few centuries.  It's all PI55! anyway. when you think about it,  and fish have sex in it and humans turn oil into plastic then disperse it around the oceans..  What goes around comes around. 

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3 hours ago, KenONeill said:

For instance, petro-chemicals are used in all the plastics that your "burn its fuel 50 miles away" battery car needs.

Greener plastics -

http://theconversation.com/scientists-are-developing-greener-plastics-the-bigger-challenge-is-moving-them-from-lab-to-market-101416

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A better lithium iron battery -

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118469_penn-state-researchers-develop-faster-charging-lithium-battery-cell

 

As a potential buyer, would you expect such a development would be designed for retro fit also ?.

If not second hand values would be smashed surely.

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