EU referendum/Brexit discussion - Part 2

[CWARD]

23 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Remember this from May 2016 (one month BEFORE the referendum) http://www.itv.com/news/2016-05-22/armed-forces-minister-uk-unable-to-stop-turkey-joining-eu/

Well, The president of the European Commission said on Wednesday he saw no prospect of Turkey joining the EU in “the foreseeable future”

His full speech is here. The EU are open and transparent in what they do.  

 

Since 2007 the EU have been paving the way for Turkey to join even funding changes in €billions, large amounts funnelled away. Still the EU pushed ahead and it took a failed coup and journalists locked up before they but the brakes on. Now we pay them €billions to swap immigrants up 75,000 per year. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union–Turkey_relations

[@Lee]

Just now, CWARD said:

 

Since 2007 the EU have been paving the way for Turkey to join even funding changes in €billions, large amounts funnelled away. Still the EU pushed ahead and it took a failed coup and journalists locked up before they but the brakes on. Now we pay them €billions to swap immigrants up 75,000 per year. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union–Turkey_relations

Yup. Confirmed. You really are in cloud cuckoo land. 

 

[CWARD]

3 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Why is that? Ha! If you haven't figured that out you really are in cloud cuckoo land  
 

 

Could it be they enjoy living in the U.K. and see a better future

[@Lee]

Just now, CWARD said:

 

Could it be they enjoy living in the U.K. and see a better future

Nope. Try again.
"Roughly two-thirds of applications, compiled by the Passport Office for the Financial Times under a Freedom of Information request, were for children."

[CWARD]

Just now, Lee01 said:

Yup. Confirmed. You really are in cloud cuckoo land. 

 

 

Cuckoo land must be where the facts are whilst on planet Lee they just make up what they want to fit their agenda

[moley]

55 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

By which time guess who'll get the shi77y end of the stick  A trading bloc of 440 million customers or a pished up island of 65 million customers? 
 

In 2016 44% of UK exports went to the EU (£240bn) down from 54% in 2006. EU exports to the UK were £312 bn. It is in the UK and the EU interest to make a deal.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-41242474/bmw-we-need-free-trade-after-brexit

Crapgame:
Try making a DEAL!

Big Joe:
What kind of DEAL?

Crapgame:
A DEAL, deal! Maybe he's a Republican. You know, "Business is business."

Edited 16 September, 2017 by moley

[Ootohere]

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What is it that Scotland has in trade to the Rest of the UK, 50 billion or something like that.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38743532 

 

What is the annual Imports & Exports between the UK & the Irish Republic worth to the UK & RoI?

 

Edited 16 September, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[Sad555]

Some fantastic mosques (biggest in the world)have been built in Turkey .....................with Eu Money.

[CWARD]

41 minutes ago, Headinawayoffski said:

 

What is the annual Imports & Exports between the UK & the Irish Republic worth to the UK & RoI?

 

 

£13b imports from Ireland £4.5b exported to

[@Lee]

7 minutes ago, Sad555 said:

Some fantastic mosques (biggest in the world)have been built in Turkey .....................with Eu Money.

FFS what? Really? UTTER and TOTAL bullsh1t.
Saudi money, yeah but EU money? Total ******
You're confusing your EU's with your UAE's dear chap. Have a Nytol and go back to sleep  

[@Lee]

1 minute ago, CWARD said:

 

£13b imports from Ireland £4.5b exported to

Yeah, mostly Guinness no doubt. Still, that twunt who owns Wetherspoons will stop selling EU beer so that trade will drop  

[CWARD]

21 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Yeah, mostly Guinness no doubt. Still, that twunt who owns Wetherspoons will stop selling EU beer so that trade will drop  

 

Probably not it's owned by Diageo, a British owned company

[@Lee]

2 minutes ago, CWARD said:

 

Probably not it's owned by Diageo, a British owned company

But brewed in Dublin, Ireland. In the EU. 
Maybe Tim could do his own trade deal with Nigeria and import it from there  

[CWARD]

Also brewed around the world under licence

[roo]

Surely Guiness is the only mass produced beer brand that is imported from the EU.  All the other large beers brands are brewed 'under licence in the UK'

[@Lee]

2 minutes ago, CWARD said:

Also brewed around the world under licence

Guinness own five, three in Africa, St. James's Gate and one in Malaysia. The African ones brew a different Guinness for their palate.
The others, as you said, brew 'under licence'.
Have you ever tried an original beer and then one brewed under licence? They're never the same as the original. 
How many of those other licenced breweries are in the EU?

[@Lee]

1 minute ago, roo said:

Surely Guiness is the only mass produced beer brand that is imported from the EU.  All the other large beers brands are brewed 'under licence in the UK'

Correct. Post Brexit the owners of those licences could withdraw that licence. Not saying they would at all but they could. 
 

[Ootohere]

Maybe the UK will get by, we will see if it can run a p!ss up in a brewery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_breweries_in_England 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_breweries_in_Scotland 

 

 

Export of hops might be affected after BREXIT but time will tell.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-29456440 

 

 

Edited 16 September, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[CWARD]

Cheers George, saves me looking them up to quash Lee's scare stories. 

[@Lee]

1 minute ago, CWARD said:

Cheers George, saves me looking them up to quash Lee's scare stories. 

What scare stories?
Has it not yet dwned on you that Project Fear turned into Project FACT?
Every single lie by Remain has been DEBUNKED. Proven to be a myth or based on a falsehood.
When will you ever get that? 

[CWARD]

12 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Correct. Post Brexit the owners of those licences could withdraw that licence. Not saying they would at all but they could. 
 

 

That scare story!

[@Lee]

Just now, CWARD said:

 

That scare story!

Errrr. It's a statement of fact. They could. Or are you saying they couldn't and never ever ever would?

[CWARD]

They would licence it as any other beer is licensed throughout the world. It's how business works in different markets. Most beers are owned by InBev within Europe. InBev are registered in 5 different countries worldwide. 

 

Quote

Errrr. It's a statement of fact.

 

Statement of fear 

Edited 16 September, 2017 by CWARD

[@Lee]

7 minutes ago, CWARD said:

They would licence it as any other beer is licensed throughout the world. It's how business works in different markets. Most beers are owned by InBev within Europe. InBev are registered in 5 different countries worldwide. 

 

 

Statement of fear 

So you're saying that they couldn't ever revoke that licence, right? 
Statement of delusion.

[CWARD]

12 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

So you're saying that they couldn't ever revoke that licence, right? 
Statement of delusion.

 

Why would they?  Even if it couldn't be done through the EU then they would simply licence through another country. 

Businesses don't stop selling to a market and give up profits unless they are sanctioned to do so. The day the EU does that, which they have no legal right to do, it would collapse as businesses would flee. A market enables businesses not restricts them. 

If you think it works any other way as you suggest then you're deluded.