Hi

 

I have noticed that I am suffering with ice on the inside of my windscreen - didn’t particularly notice in 2016. 

 

No damp carpets anywhere. I don’t tramp on lots of water as normally just me in the car. 

 

None of the other windows have got the ice on the inside. 

 

Car at serviced by Skoda and under warranty - 65 plate. 

 

Other than take it in to Skoda which I plan to do - Surely this isn’t normal??

 

any advice or responses appreciated. 

 

Thanks

 

Ryan

 

 

how cold is it? below -5 or so it's normal.

 

Leave A/C on, clap your shoes together to get rid of the snow before getting in. Dry the mats.

Make sure there's air flow to the screen. Is your demister set to Auto? What temperature?

 

 - Bret

Edited 8 January, 20188 yr by brettikivi

Seems there's a bit too much condensation? We've had -10 a few weeks back here in mid Wales, not had any ice inside mine.

 

Check all the carpets, including boot and spare wheel well - on my Mk2 I somehow lost a rubber grommet in the wheel well and got water ingress there.

 

Do all the windows freeze, or just the windscreen? Do you have a sunroof that could be leaking?

Once you have done all the usual stuff like check drain pipe, changed the pollen filter, remove all stuff from the car not needed, 

be sure it is well aired, glass clean, anti-fog applied inside, 

 

put one of these in the boot and one in the passenger area.

£1 each.

2 hours ago, brettikivi said:

how cold is it? below -5 or so it's normal.

 

Leave A/C on, clap your shoes together to get rid of the snow before getting in. Dry the mats.

Make sure there's air flow to the screen. Is your demister set to Auto? What temperature?

 

 - Bret

Hi. I’ve been running with th AC. Always keep the airflow to the screen. Temperature set to 20c

 

thabks for the repltreply

2 hours ago, pist0nbr0ke said:

Seems there's a bit too much condensation? We've had -10 a few weeks back here in mid Wales, not had any ice inside mine.

 

Check all the carpets, including boot and spare wheel well - on my Mk2 I somehow lost a rubber grommet in the wheel well and got water ingress there.

 

Do all the windows freeze, or just the windscreen? Do you have a sunroof that could be leaking?

Checked all the carpets and all dry. Will venture to the boot and inspect. 

 

Just the windsxsreen freezing. 

 

No sunroof

2 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

Once you have done all the usual stuff like check drain pipe, changed the pollen filter, remove all stuff from the car not needed, 

be sure it is well aired, glass clean, anti-fog applied inside, 

 

put one of these in the boot and one in the passenger area.

£1 each.

What drain pipe do you refer to and where is it. 

 

Only a A to Z map, no other clutter carried. 

 

Im going to check pollen filter - this was supposedly changed in the last service in November. 

 

Can a pollen filter be be put in the wrong way or seated incorrectly?

 

thanks

 

ryan

Check there's not a build up of leaves or similar debris on the windscreen scuttle too.

Our Polo did the same on the night before last,I agree it is just because of the low temps at the moment,vw group cars do seem to tend to get bad condensation on the inside of the Windscreen,I guess I am used to it LOL - and of course if you get heavy condensation and then add in (say) minus 5 deg c then I would say ice is inevitable.

I used a small towel to mop up the water/wipe the inside of screen  as it thawed with the heater on yesterday.

19 minutes ago, Rybu79 said:

Hi. I’ve been running with th AC. Always keep the airflow to the screen. Temperature set to 20c

Do you keep the blowers set to 'just' the screen permanently? If so, that will restrict the volume and spread of air entering the cabin and wont allow the bottom half of the interior to warm up to clear any moisture sitting on the colder parts such as seat frames and the like. Plus a few warm damp days before the cold temps will just trap more moisture where the sun don't shine.

YS53,

As to Only Inevitable. 

There will be plenty cars in Perth this morning as yesterday with no Ice inside the windscreens.

Probably not many Fabia without though, but then open the doors after the temp goes above freezing and see that H2o run out the rubber door seals.

As with many other Skoda / VW group cars.

Just now, BigEjit said:

Do you keep the blowers set to 'just' the screen permanently? If so, that will restrict the volume and spread of air entering the cabin and wont allow the bottom half of the interior to warm up to clear any moisture sitting on the colder parts such as seat frames and the like. Plus a few warm damp days before the cold temps will just trap more moisture where the sun don't shine.

Nothing worse than moisture where the sun don’t shine. 

 

Good points and i will see if i can get the damp out of the nooks and crannies

Anyone know if the moisture trap (assuming crystals) can be dried out and reused, rather than refilled?

 

I am looking at ones that can be 'recharged' (Lol) at the moment.............wondered if these use different materials?

Pingi, for instance.

Edited 8 January, 20188 yr by Tilt

42 minutes ago, Rybu79 said:

Nothing worse than moisture where the sun don’t shine. 

 

Good points and i will see if i can get the damp out of the nooks and crannies

 

Ice would be worse 

51 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

YS53,

As to Only Inevitable. 

There will be plenty cars in Perth this morning as yesterday with no Ice inside the windscreens.

Probably not many Fabia without though, but then open the doors after the temp goes above freezing and see that H2o run out the rubber door seals.

As with many other Skoda / VW group cars.

Absolutely agree Awa 

In deepest winter though I worry about other things - we later drove the old polo back home from the kingdom with the back windows a little open and heater directed at both screen and tootsies to help dry out the interior lol ! 

 

Just waiting for the temp to get up to about -4*oC to go cycling.

 

My car windows will have no ice this morning inside if i get in because the temp has never been above freezing since parked, 

so there has been no condensation & no freezing, and then my daily drive has the Green house heater in and the temp stays above freezing at 2*oC.

 

Edited 8 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

4 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

Once you have done all the usual stuff like check drain pipe, changed the pollen filter, remove all stuff from the car not needed, 

be sure it is well aired, glass clean, anti-fog applied inside, 

 

put one of these in the boot and one in the passenger area.

£1 each.

 Be careful with these, I once made a real mess in a previous car. As the crystals inside absorb moisture they turn into a liquid, the liquid itself continues to absorb moisture but to a lesser degree.  Unfortunately the moisture trap tipped over under my seat and soaked the carpet with the moisture absorbing liquid, it was impossible to clean it up fully and meant the carpet loved to absorb moisture from the air. The exact opposite of what i was trying to achieve.

 

Just make sure the traps can't roll over and leak their contents.

so at 0C it's generally 100% humidity. If there's not a reasonable amount of airflow, you won't dry the car and you certainly won't take the moisture out of the air that's inside the car. So when you stop, it re-condenses on the inside of the screen. Below -10 it gets bad here. Fan on two bars and towards the screen isn't really enough. Try leaving it on Auto for couple of days and let things dry out. Make sure the car gets actually warm once in a while and remove excess moisture that's already in the car. My driver's footwell was filled with water the other day from snowmelt off my boots; the drive at the weekend of 1h each way to Ikea has dried everything out again nicely. Even just using some kitchen roll to take the excess water off the mats might be enough to tip the balance.

 

Be very, very careful with standard fan heaters in cars: they heat quite significantly. There are ones made specifically *for* cars - Defa Termini spring to mind - and they will only heat to ambient +30 or 10C, whichever is higher, so you don't toast the car but you do warm it nicely.

 

 - Bret

For Much Cheapness Moisture Traps,  i Used Marge Containers with Dry Sea Salt in & the lid taped on and holes pierced in them, 

absorbed H20, never turns to H2o,  worked for decades, Cars, Vans, Boats, Caravans.

 

As to the £1 ones, if you leave then long enough then they are liquid, you have a bad condensation problem if you are filling it in 2 or 3 months.

I do not take them out the wrapper, i just punch some wholes in the vacuum wrap and top foil. 

 

PS 

Greenhouse heaters, take care, use Outdoor cables and plugs,. 

remember to disconnect unless you have extension cables miles / km long.

 

Head for thinking and feet for dancing, and Insurance for accidents, invalid insurance for the daft, guide dogs for the stupid for sale on Ebay, 

send your bank details to a Nigerian Bank.

Edited 8 January, 20188 yr by AwaoffSki

I recently bought some of the Pingi dehumidifiers and put one in each of our cars (Octavia, Up and Golf). All of them have seen a marked improvement with much less condensation than before. The Pingi ones can be microwaved to dry them out. There is a disk that shows blue when it is dry and goes white when it needs to be microwaved. They are like little cushions so nothing to spill in the car.

2 hours ago, MediumDave said:

I recently bought some of the Pingi dehumidifiers and put one in each of our cars (Octavia, Up and Golf). All of them have seen a marked improvement with much less condensation than before. The Pingi ones can be microwaved to dry them out. There is a disk that shows blue when it is dry and goes white when it needs to be microwaved. They are like little cushions so nothing to spill in the car.

 

I've got a couple of those Pingi ones, leave one on the parcel shelf, and one in the boot. Not seen either turn pink yet but only been in a couple of weeks. Haven't had many issues with misting up inside since though.

11 hours ago, pist0nbr0ke said:

Seems there's a bit too much condensation? We've had -10 a few weeks back here in mid Wales, not had any ice inside mine.

 

Check all the carpets, including boot and spare wheel well - on my Mk2 I somehow lost a rubber grommet in the wheel well and got water ingress there.

 

Do all the windows freeze, or just the windscreen? Do you have a sunroof that could be leaking?

 

-10 dry vs -5 humid are very different scenarios.

I saw the inside of the wife's Fiesta was soaking earlier (it's currently around -8 outside). Frozen drops are hard to get rid of... so I went to look. Turns out there's ice on the *outside* which in turn makes it really hard for the ice on the inside to be melted. Because the glass is at -8.

 

Also: when did you last clean the screen? It makes a difference. Dirty screens get way more condensation.

 

 - Bret

1 hour ago, KevC_Derby said:

 

-10 dry vs -5 humid are very different scenarios.

not that different. -10 is a pain because the ice will refreeze within the hatch area really quickly - needs to go to -20 or so before the temps stay below freezing in the boot. At least IME

 

I'm sure @Jaco2k or @Petunet have better experience than me with the Octy's pecularities in cold weather...

 

 - Bret

21 minutes ago, brettikivi said:

 

Also: when did you last clean the screen? It makes a difference. Dirty screens get way more condensation.

 

 - Bret

 

^this

 

Also, where I wash the car they have the habit of washing my rubber mats also and before they are dry, you can really feel the difference with condensation and humidity inside the car.

 

Side question - don't out cars have a inside air humidity sensor and adjust the aircon accordingly?