@bigjohn  It is 'Tesco Momentum 99' 

& produced by 'Greenergy', that produces fuel for many others.   If the Super Unleaded's higher Octane improves efficient running then good but EU Type Approval and testing requires petrol cars to be tested and run on 95 octane fuel. 

http://greenergy.com

 

Asda Unleaded 95 is no different from other 95 octane Unleaded from ESSO that Greenergy might have supplied, or Sainsburry's Morrisions, Texaco, BP, Shell or any other.

'Own Brand' fuel is not like own brand Beans or Digestive Biscuits.

 

Edited 28 November, 20187 yr by Offski

We did take a test drive in 1.5 manual but the salesperson drove it out of its parking space so we didn't drive engine from cold which is when you get problems. It did cut out on an incline in low revs but like most owners on this forum you think you just haven't got used to the car..... it's later that you realise it's the car not you

14 hours ago, PiKaroq said:

So skoda customer services called me back unexpectedly they are now backtracking on what I was told on Friday and skoda currently have no fix planned and are saying it's a characteristic of the car.  I have cancelled my order.

 

Quite alarmed by this from Skoda, no fix planned implies that they will not be fixing the issue.

This doesn't bode well. Service manager is adamant that Skoda are well on the way to resolving the "issue" (mind, he would say that wouldn't he)

 

Cold here yesterday and it didn't take long (less than half hour) for the engine to cool enough to kangaroo badly. This can't be good for a new engine/gearbox/clutch. Even when normal operating temp, engine falters.

 

Regarding test drives, 1.5 manual was never available each time I visited (out on loan, extended test drive, just been sold, diesel has same power output try that, try 1.0 litre give you a feel for the petrol engine etc, etc) Ordered the 1.5 as it was, according to all reviews I read, the pick of the engines)

 

 

1 hour ago, Offski said:

@bigjohn  It is 'Tesco Momentum 99' 

& produced by 'Greenergy', that produces fuel for many others.   If the Super Unleaded's higher Octane improves efficient running then good but EU Type Approval and testing requires petrol cars to be tested and run on 95 octane fuel. 

http://greenergy.com

 

Asda Unleaded 95 is no different from other 95 octane Unleaded from ESSO that Greenergy might have supplied, or Sainsburry's Morrisions, Texaco, BP, Shell or any other.

'Own Brand' fuel is not like own brand Beans or Digestive Biscuits.

 

Agreed re 95 RON petrol give or take an additive or two. My comment relates (I think!) to these modern efficient engines that take things to the limit re fuel injection&mixture/timing(valve and ignition)/compression/turbo. I've usually run with higher octane petrol where possible since hearing a slight "pinking" in France with 95 RON when going up-hill in a built up area with the windows down (it was hot - distant memories!)  - you can't normally hear this becasue the car is so well soundproofed.

 

Looking in the manual supplied with my Superb II it has a note "On vehicles using prescribed unleaded petrol of min 95 RON, the use of petrol with a higher octane number than 95 RON can increase the power and reduce fuel consumption."

 

The reality is my 1.4tsi EA111 seems to have lost it's mojo after filling up with cheap 95 RON - will start topping up with my usual 99 RON asap. However It is not struggling to set off at roundabouts though as described by other 1.5tsi drivers.

 

I myself will avoid the 1.5tsi for the mo until sorted.

13 hours ago, Offski said:

???

Is the issue surfacing on MY19 WLTP Approved 1.5 TSI ACT with DSG's fitted with GPF's.     (Gasoline Particulat Filters.)

 

By whom and where is this being reported?

I respect your knowledge and input to the forum. I have an MY19 1.5tsi DSG SEL GB spec with 800 miles. Are they all fitted with GPF's? Does this have an effect on the performance and fuel consumption? 

As I have previously noted on here until the engine has warmed up it hunts or surges at low speed with little throttle. I live in a 20mph zone with a slight downhill gradient and it's very noticeable you can not drive smoothly. I appreciate that the engine is new and not been run at the operating temperature but I believe the problem reported with the manual gearbox cars is related. 

I will log it with the dealer when I am next in the area. 

In my case, i test drove the car and it didn't do it. Nor did mine until i had the ECU update. Thus i was convinced that it could be corrected with software.

As I’ve said before when bought the car, the revs would go up without foot at gas pedal when releasing the clutch. Something you easily adapt to and quite liked it since the car would never stall.  I've started thinking now that this was not an anti-stall mechanism but it was a way to "hide" the kangaroo problem. But eventually it caused other problems and thus the ECU update. Maybe it is a built issue after all and won’t be easily solved L

 

54 minutes ago, Doogle69 said:

I respect your knowledge and input to the forum. I have an MY19 1.5tsi DSG SEL GB spec with 800 miles. Are they all fitted with GPF's? Does this have an effect on the performance and fuel consumption? 

As I have previously noted on here until the engine has warmed up it hunts or surges at low speed with little throttle. I live in a 20mph zone with a slight downhill gradient and it's very noticeable you can not drive smoothly. I appreciate that the engine is new and not been run at the operating temperature but I believe the problem reported with the manual gearbox cars is related. 

I will log it with the dealer when I am next in the area. 

 

As of last month I believe all Skoda MY19 petrol direct injection engines are now fitted with a OPF/GPF (Otto Particulate Filter - Ottopartikelfilter in German). The NA Citigo has port injection and I think for the moment is NOT fitted with a OPF (for now)- port injection engines are not an efficient but  produce considerably less particuates.

Edited 28 November, 20187 yr by bigjohn

VW / Skoda / SEAT / Audi might need to change Fuel Flap stickers, but if they do because higher octane make the car 'Fit for purpose' they will need to compensate drivers.

Edited 28 November, 20187 yr by Offski

"We did take a test drive in 1.5 manual but the salesperson drove it out of its parking space so we didn't drive engine from cold which is when you get problems. It did cut out on an incline in low revs but like most owners on this forum you think you just haven't got used to the car..... it's later that you realise it's the car not you"

 

We've owned our 1.5 SEL manual for a couple of months, and I think the situation is exactly as described above. After only about a week's ownership, we drove the car down to an unfamiliar area of Kent and whilst following a friend, found ourselves on an incline and having to pull out of a junction onto a main road. The car stuttered, jumped and stalled. I ended up restarting with loads of revs and the car leaping forward - all very embarrassing and potentially quite dangerous. I should add that I'm used to being particularly cautious in such situations as my previous car was a 1.3 diesel Astra estate that had zero power at less than 1800 revs.

I have reported this to the dealer who says that they have recently received information about the 1.5 situation - he was going to mail it on to me but it has yet to arrive; I will chase again.

21 hours ago, Sad555 said:

After following this topic for the last 8 months I wondered if there are any old fashioned motorist like me who take a test drive before buying a car to see if it suits there needs because I’ve test driven a fair few cars that I had initially liked the look of only to find some things I didn’t like or do they just look at pictures and extras toys and blindly place an order without having driven the car only to find it’s not drivable ?

There were none available to test drive at the time all they had was tdi so bought on the foolish assumption it would be as good as the 1.4 TSI, I had actually ordered a Superb Estate with the 1.4 initially but then a few weeks later was told none left and the only car available to order with the new 1.5 was the Karoq so I went with that. 

2 minutes ago, TheRealExile said:

There were none available to test drive at the time all they had was tdi so bought on the foolish assumption it would be as good as the 1.4 TSI, I had actually ordered a Superb Estate with the 1.4 initially but then a few weeks later was told none left and the only car available to order with the new 1.5 was the Karoq so I went with that. 

I previously had a 1.4tsi Octavia which was great. No 1.5tsi manual available when I road tested but thought it would be no problem after the 1.4.

If only.......

SEAT put the 1.4TSI Alhambra through the WLTP and i wonder if they were as before WLTP testing or if some engine management / software tweak was required.

Not driven one on sale now, but then before they were crap and 150ps.

Also for my clutch issue the car has been in since Friday morning, they STILL haven't even taken the gearbox off as awaiting approval from Skoda tech  how long does it take to change a clutch!!! I'm pretty sure most places can change them same day.

The little Fabia is okay but I'm missing my boot space and lost without my Nav, I'm going to have to dig out my box of maps 

Request via Skoda UK a like for like car just ask for a non faulty one as a 'courtesy car / goodwill gesture since they are so bad at honesty and after sales care.  They will have cars at the Dealership that the dealership have not paid for.

 

Maybe the Dealer Principal or some sales executives perk, or a demonstrator a favoured person gets that they are keeping 'as a special' for a good customer / friend after 3 months.

Edited 28 November, 20187 yr by Offski

For the kangaroo they wouldn't even offer any replacement but I shall give it a go tomorrow and ask for like for like or at least an estate of some sort.

Hi all.

 

Looking at the various comments it seems I'm not alone in feeling like I'm on my first ever driving lesson kangarooing down the road!

Had my new 1.5 SEL for 3 weeks now and have done just a tad under 3000 miles. Cold starts are the worst by far and especially as I live near Saddleworth moor and it's pretty hilly (dreading the snow) I've found starting in Eco mode makes a very small difference but to be honest I may be imagining it. From what I've seen on here it's a very common problem. Other slight concern is fuel range per tank I seem to be filling up a lot. Not moaning as so far I love the car. 

I have the DSG and have the same problem!!!

 

Thought it was just me and so glad I found this topic.

I have had it for a few weeks now and I'm not happy. Going to contact local dealer tomorrow

I've not had chance to pop into a dealership yet but will when passing. Interested in what response people have had from dealers. Drove 160000 miles over the last 5 years in a manual Veto van and never stalled it once. Stalled the new car 3 times once on a hill in heavy traffic not good!

3 hours ago, smudge18 said:

I have the DSG and have the same problem!!!

 

Thought it was just me and so glad I found this topic.

I have had it for a few weeks now and I'm not happy. Going to contact local dealer tomorrow

 

Interesting smudge18...…..How does it manifest itself on the DSG, does it actually cut out or just splutter and go back into 1st?

No it doesn't cut out and goes through the gears, but on starting it, i can hear it rev up and down on its own, then slow to set off, then jerks forward. I've spun the wheels slightly too when adding more revs before it decides to set off. Quite worrying if close to traffic at a junction, etc. Fuel consumption seems poor too, compared to my 1.4TSi Octavia DSG...

Edited 29 November, 20187 yr by smudge18

Sieski even if you can't take car in let your dealership know of the problem. Then it's logged. It's a numbers game for Skoda at the moment. Eventually they won't be able to ignore customers.

6 hours ago, LittleOwl said:

Sieski even if you can't take car in let your dealership know of the problem. Then it's logged. It's a numbers game for Skoda at the moment. Eventually they won't be able to ignore customers.

 

I couldn't agree more. It seems a few people live with it for a while probably hoping it will settle down.

Skoda need to be told and don't rely on the garage passing on the complaint.

1 minute ago, R1200R said:

 

I couldn't agree more. It seems a few people live with it for a while probably hoping it will settle down.

Skoda need to be told and don't rely on the garage passing on the complaint.

I agree, get it logged and recorded with Skoda Customer Services just in case the dealer “forgets” to flag it to technical.

"I agree, get it logged and recorded with Skoda Customer Services just in case the dealer “forgets” to flag it to technical."

 

To save us all having to look it up, does anyone have the contact details for Skoda Customer Services, please? Oh, and BBC Watchdog as well?

I've always run my tfsi cars off 98 or higher octane fuel, noticeable performance and fuel efficiency increase.  I havent noticed any problems on my Karoq, admittedly I only picked up yesterday, but have driven through heavy traffic, up steep hills and motorways and haven't noticed any of the issues, yet.  Maybe it is a software issue and as mine has had a patch?? Mine is 1.5 dsg