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10 minutes ago, bone_tone said:

The kangarooing seems to be temperature dependent - mine's been fine for the last couple of weeks, whilst the weather's been warmer, but it's doing it again today in cooler conditions!

 

So it will be good for a few weeks of the year in this country then :D:sadsmile:

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Seemingly a happy ending for me... They've managed to find me a 1L manual SEL petrol blue that's already built and new. Doesn't have the 2 extras I ordered (heated windscreen and family pack) - has leather seats instead. But been told I should still be able to get a couple of items from the family pack anyway. 

They again matched the best carwow offer that I hurriedly did earlier. I must say Croydon dealership have been great in helping today, especially Karla. 

Means no wait til Christmas now, should get it in a few weeks :)

I've had this same issue with my Octavia 1.5tsi but an ecu update has transformed it.  No more over revving, no kangarooing and generally a much smoother drive.

21 hours ago, Bazza123 said:

Hi Just joined this forum today

I purchased a 1.5 TSI SEL in April and have experienced exactly the same problems as described here. Having driven cars for more than 35 years, I am confident it's nothing to do with my driving style. My wife has also experienced the issue. The car has completed 1100 miles. I thought maybe the clutch needed bedding in but 1000 miles seems more than enough to me. I have had it in with my local dealer today who has stated that they are unable to find a fault and did not experience the 'engine cough' as I described it, in 1st gear. They also carried out Guided Fault finding with no faults found, Also stated 'pulls away in the same way as other 1.5 Karoqs' Interestingly they also mention that there may be an ECU update in the future I wonder now if Skoda knows about this problem,,,

Having never had such an issue before - can anyone explain how this is likely to be progressed? Do I go back to the dealer and complain again!

I've been to two Skoda main dealers. First one drove car very briefly but gave it too many revs so did not experience fault. Second one felt it but said there was no engine management light so no fault! They only had experience of DSG. I drive another manual petrol regularly with no issues. The only way to avoid it is either more revs not ideal in traffic jam or foot staying on clutch. Or let the car's ECU drive it with your foot of the throttle until it gets pass the bad rev range. This just spoils a very nice car.

On 2018-06-05 at 14:43, bone_tone said:

The kangarooing seems to be temperature dependent - mine's been fine for the last couple of weeks, whilst the weather's been warmer, but it's doing it again today in cooler conditions!

My 1,5 tsi man. Also kangarooing when the engine is cold. Ok with warm engine . 

https://youtu.be/9HpXwYq3lWo

 

Wondering if this is the same issue they picked up on in their review / test drive :blink: .. skip to 1:18

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

This describes the exact issue we have with our T-ROC 1.5 TSI Man. We had the latest ECU update and are now over 1000 miles so if a running in map exists (not sure it does) then we are past that now. 

 

I tried 99RON fuel this week. I’ll see if it helps. I think the soft rear suspension and torsion bar don’t help when it does bunny hop pulling away. 

Edited by hkp

I found this problem on my 1.8tsi polo gti manual. 

 

If i had the car in first gear and pulled off slowly/ just lift the clutch completely, it would hop along a bit. Would suggest to me it’s a vw manual problem. 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Mine does exactly the same sometimes, feels like a slight hesitation as you pull off then it learches then pulls away fine, it’s not all the time though, revs makes a difference but don’t see why you have to over rev it to get away smoothly, annoying cause it’s so smooth after first gear. 

i had to laugh when i saw this one as mine is the same, she is just a little keen so the only way i can do it smoothly is a halfway clutch enough to be able to put it in second gear but seems to work, just needs getting used to and a steady pedal :biggrin:

Had my Karoq 1.5tsi manual 10  days now and it's suffered engine dying/lurching when moving off from day 1. Took it back to dealer on day three and was told it was my driving style and that I needed to get used to petrol after five oil burners. Was a bit miffed at this as I've driven professionally both petrol and diesels for 40 years. 

Put up with it for  another week before researching the issue myself only to find this forum containing many complaints about the same issue which I believe could be potentially dangerous.

Went  back to the dealer again today and got  some satisfaction after a  manager (I think) in an adjacent office  heard me explaining my complaint and concerns. Car now booked in for next Tuesday (31/7) for software update. Apparently there is a known issue which wasn't disclosed.  Watch this space!!

Apart from that, I love it after 2 Octavias. 

 Exactly the same problem with mine from day 1 in March. Had software upgrade on 20/04 but made no difference. Told it was my driving style despite regularly driving another petrol with no issue! Been to two main dealers and one had no experience of 1 5 manual only dsg.

On 22/07/2018 at 13:02, TPauly said:

i had to laugh when i saw this one as mine is the same, she is just a little keen so the only way i can do it smoothly is a halfway clutch enough to be able to put it in second gear but seems to work, just needs getting used to and a steady pedal :biggrin:

I sometimes just put it in second as soon as I start moving!

I’ve found the problem not as bad since I put it in Eco mode. 

1 hour ago, Markyj said:

I’ve found the problem not as bad since I put it in Eco mode. 

Seems odd that no DSG box Karoq is mentioned in this forum. I only road tested a dsg before I ordered my manual and that was fine.? Wish us tested a manual but none available.

seems pretty clear to me. There’s  an issue when this engine is mated to a manual box. Please find a soloution avg to what is spoiling what is otherwise a cracking motor.

1 hour ago, Zengt12 said:

 Exactly the same problem with mine from day 1 in March. Had software upgrade on 20/04 but made no difference. Told it was my driving style despite regularly driving another petrol with no issue! Been to two main dealers and one had no experience of 1 5 manual only dsg.

We must keep on at them otherwise they’ll just ignore us. Clearly there’s an issue and one I believe it could be safety related. It is an issue  I intend to pursue in the absence of any resoloution.

I will soon have more time to take this up with main dealers and Skoda. Refering to a previous post ambient temperature is not an issue with this. Anyone notice when you release the clutch the revs rise by theirselves.

11 hours ago, Markyj said:

I’ve found the problem not as bad since I put it in Eco mode. 

Same for me - tends to suggest it is a software issue as suspected

1 hour ago, bone_tone said:

Same for me - tends to suggest it is a software issue as suspected

 

well thats interesting I shall try that !

Just got my 1.5tsi manual back from the dealers after taking in for the engine dying when moving off. I've noticed the revs drop rapidly by about 250-300 rpm  and then  rise again after less than a second. Unsurprisingly they told me the car was bang up to date and showing no faults. Said they'd contacted Skoda Technical who were not aware of any issue. Advised them to visit this forum. Said the computer needed to adjust to my driving style and that would take 1000 miles. Told me to drive it in a variety of styles, fast slow etc.  Cant say  I'm surprised with the initial outcome but I have reiterated  my view that  this is potentially dangerous and that i'm not just going to go away. I will be back at 1000 mils when i'm sure the issue will still be present.

 

36 minutes ago, AMC150 said:

Just got my 1.5tsi manual back from the dealers after taking in for the engine dying when moving off. I've noticed the revs drop rapidly by about 250-300 rpm  and then  rise again after less than a second. Unsurprisingly they told me the car was bang up to date and showing no faults. Said they'd contacted Skoda Technical who were not aware of any issue. Advised them to visit this forum. Said the computer needed to adjust to my driving style and that would take 1000 miles. Told me to drive it in a variety of styles, fast slow etc.  Cant say  I'm surprised with the initial outcome but I have reiterated  my view that  this is potentially dangerous and that i'm not just going to go away. I will be back at 1000 mils when i'm sure the issue will still be present.

 

This is exactly why our car has not visited the Skoda dealer because if you guys think there is a magic cure you've been eating too many funny mushrooms. Only solution is to give it plenty of revs in first and get into second as quickly as you can. Notice how it never happens with a cold engine when the engine idles at 1,200 revs.:notme:

2 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

This is exactly why our car has not visited the Skoda dealer because if you guys think there is a magic cure you've been eating too many funny mushrooms. Only solution is to give it plenty of revs in first and get into second as quickly as you can. Notice how it never happens with a cold engine when the engine idles at 1,200 revs.:notme:

Mine does does it when it’s cold, even worse than when it’s warm. 

I agree high revs masks the problem but I don’t relish paying  for a new clutch in 2 years time.

Skoda should acknowledge the problem and sort it!!

Tech who went out with me in mine accepted there was an issue but didn’t know what it was.

 

AMC150,  Contact the Dealer Principal and ask them to have the employee that told you that to put it in writing with their name and qualifications and sign it

and forward the copy of advice from the Skoda Technical department.

 

As it is tell Skoda UK Customer Services in writing what you were told and your experience so far. You can tell a Communications Manager when they get back to you.

Someone is taking the Michael.

http://skoda.co.uk/about-us/contact-us 

 

Total rubbish on the 1.5TSI ECU adjusting to you after 1,000 miles. 

We are not talking a DSG ECU here.   They either did a software update or no software update.

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9 minutes ago, AMC150 said:

Mine does does it when it’s cold, even worse than when it’s warm. 

I agree high revs masks the problem but I don’t relish paying  for a new clutch in 2 years time.

Skoda should acknowledge the problem and sort it!!

Tech who went out with me in mine accepted there was an issue but didn’t know what it was.

 

I find that when cold you can let the clutch out without needing any revs and the car will accelerate enough to pop it into 2nd without kangaroo motions. Indeed it will accelerate on its own upto 15mph with touching the gas pedal. I have been driving for 35 years and this is the first car I have bought that can make me look like a LEARNER! My theory is that Skoda want all manual Karoq owners to trade their cars in for the more expensive DSG version so that they can increase their profits and keep VAG Head Office happy at the expense of loyal customers (SHOCK HORROR).:angry:

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27 minutes ago, Offski said:

AMC150,  Contact the Dealer Principal and ask them to have the employee that told you that to put it in writing with their name and qualifications and sign it

and forward the copy of advice from the Skoda Technical department.

 

As it is tell Skoda UK Customer Services in writing what you were told and your experience so far. You can tell a Communications Manager when they get back to you.

Someone is taking the Michael.

http://skoda.co.uk/about-us/contact-us 

 

Total rubbish on the 1.5TSI ECU adjusting to you after 1,000 miles. 

We are not talking a DSG ECU here.   They either did a software update or no software update.

Thanks. No software update available they said. Just so frustrating.

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