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13 hours ago, Muzza80 said:

 

Try these MAP6 settings, this is what I was running prior to fitting the downpipe and the car loved it, great timing advance, great AFR

 

FOL - 60

Fuel - 99ron

Boost safety - 25

 

1500 - 0
2000 - 2
2500 - 2.6
3000 - 3
3500 - 4
4000 - 5
4500 - 6
5000 - 6.5
5500 - 6
6000 - 5.5
6500 - 5
7000 - 5

Thanks Murray I tried this setup this morning, well recommended to anyone running a jb4.

It's a lot more progressive than Map 2, the car isn't scrambling as much for grip down low but still pulls like a train up top. Tried a quick 0-100 kph with someone else in the car and got 6.1 first go. I would be interested to see Dyno figures now!

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Just read a comparison between two desirable cars. New BMW M5 and its nearest rival Mercedes AMG E63S. Sobering when you add up the running costs for both of these over 3 years and 36,000 miles.

M5 costs to tax, insure, service, fuel and depreciation £64,453 or £1,790.36 per month.

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When you remap your cars do you do anything for the gearbox?

Have a 7 speed DSG and if you look at the ratings on it, it's good for 420-440 NM 

Some of you have a lot more than that in you cars.

Was thinking of doing a stage 1 on my car but a VW pro driver here that I know strongly advised against it. Cause of the DSG and that the engine is tuned up already.

The warranty of the gearbox and engine will be out the window if I do it so how do you handle that part?

Just got the car, have only done 500 km so far, so a bit worried to loose the warranty on it.
The tune up company take the warranty on the engine but not the gearbox.

4 hours ago, GenOtmin said:

When you remap your cars do you do anything for the gearbox?

Have a 7 speed DSG and if you look at the ratings on it, it's good for 420-440 NM 

Some of you have a lot more than that in you cars.

Was thinking of doing a stage 1 on my car but a VW pro driver here that I know strongly advised against it. Cause of the DSG and that the engine is tuned up already.

The warranty of the gearbox and engine will be out the window if I do it so how do you handle that part?

Just got the car, have only done 500 km so far, so a bit worried to loose the warranty on it.
The tune up company take the warranty on the engine but not the gearbox.

TVS in Holland or DTUK in the UK can flash/remap the DQ381 DSG to about 600Nm without any hardware required.

10 hours ago, GenOtmin said:

When you remap your cars do you do anything for the gearbox?

Have a 7 speed DSG and if you look at the ratings on it, it's good for 420-440 NM 

Some of you have a lot more than that in you cars.

Was thinking of doing a stage 1 on my car but a VW pro driver here that I know strongly advised against it. Cause of the DSG and that the engine is tuned up already.

The warranty of the gearbox and engine will be out the window if I do it so how do you handle that part?

Just got the car, have only done 500 km so far, so a bit worried to loose the warranty on it.
The tune up company take the warranty on the engine but not the gearbox.

Mitsubishi Evo's usually produce between 300-440bhp but the gearbox can handle 750bhp. This is not unusual as most manufacturers build a tolerance of upto 80% when producing parts. Therefore a car with 100bhp can be tuned upto 180bhp without any issues.Anyone worried about their warranty leave your car standard.:blink:Plenty of Golf R's both manual and DSG running 530bhp reliably also.:cool:

1 minute ago, shyVRS245 said:

Mitsubishi Evo's usually produce between 300-440bhp but the gearbox can handle 750bhp. This is not unusual as most manufacturers build a tolerance of upto 80% when producing parts. Therefore a car with 100bhp can be tuned upto 180bhp without any issues.Anyone worried about their warranty leave your car standard.:blink:Plenty of Golf R's both manual and DSG running 530bhp reliably also.:cool:

I know :) But unfortunately the DSG DQ381 is specified for 420-440 NM, 300 bhp and if I do first stage I get to 440-450 NM, 310 bhp so there will be an issue if anything happens.

But themanwithnoaim said that you can remap the DSG as well so I need to that in this case. Just need to figure out if they do this with more slip or what they do to make the gearbox handle more torque

41 minutes ago, GenOtmin said:

 

But themanwithnoaim said that you can remap the DSG as well so I need to that in this case. Just need to figure out if they do this with more slip or what they do to make the gearbox handle more torque

The DSG remap clamps the clutch plates 40% harder, changes gear far faster & stops the "learning adjustment" within the DSG software, which softens the gears changes according to the recent driving style of the car.

Arrived at AMD just after 7am today. Last journey with stage 1 mapping, got to be happy with 48.6MPG and 527miles on this tank. More photo/video later, plus those power/torque figures.

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have you got the fuelly reading for comparison?

Just got home and probably driving most powerful 245 in England unless anyone can claim more than this on 99 octane pump fuel with NO octane boosters added and no separate ethanol tank in the spare wheel well. After 2 power runs gave an identical (340PS) 335.9BHP at 5,247RPM. Torque has always been strong on this engine (standard was 400NM or 294lb/ft) and now stands at 517NM or 380lb/ft at 2,661RPM.

Dyno graph, photos and video of rolling road run to follow in the morning as I left my house at 4.30AM and been driving for 6hours today.

Averaged 44.5MPG on the way home in rush hour traffic on the M25 including the 2 power runs. Initial thoughts are I can feel the extra 10% power increase because it's developed 250RPM lower than before and more noticeable is the 10% increase in torque because again it's at a lower RPM than before making it feel like a large capacity V8 is lurking under the bonnet. Exhaust is quiet and no louder than the standard system on the motorway. Nice rumble when you start the car and can hear the cone filter sucking air in during gear changes. Overall very happy despite being £3,000 worse off. Muzza you were very close and this must be the limit for the IS20 turbo, considering the extent of the hardware changes made to my car.:inlove:

Some pictures and video from yesterday as promised.

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The dyno, can't seem to upload the video, sorry.

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On ‎23‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 10:31, JohnnyType2 said:

have you got the fuelly reading for comparison?

When I normally turn off the motoeway on the commute car usually reads 43mpg, today first commute at stage 2 and computer reads 45mpg. Early days but the 10% increase in power/torque seems to be giving a further 5% fuel saving compared to stage 1. Last tank stage 1 was 400 miles (46 litres) and cost just over £65. First tank at stage 2 was 405 miles (42 litres) and cost just over £60. Both times V-Power was £1.429 per litre.:party:

Just need to work upto Stage 25 and you’ll be running on fresh air. 

On ‎13‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 14:19, Muzza80 said:

 

Got ya.

They manufacture the cat, Milltek build the downpipe around it. 

Should be good, hopefully not too loud though!    Be interested to see what you make of it.

 

 

Update on the full Milltek exhaust nice and quiet on a cruise as I had hoped. Not realy booted it yet but starts with a nice rumble. The Airtec induction hisses like a dump valve between gearchanges but you need to switch the radio off to hear it. Happy with everything and 350lb/ft minimum torque between 2000 to 5000 rpm so no flat spots to worry about. It's even using less fuel, saved £5 on the first tank but will update after 2,000 miles of brim to brim tankfuls.:biggrin:

12 minutes ago, SC03OTT said:

Just need to work upto Stage 25 and you’ll be running on fresh air. 

Your sounding a WEE JEALOUS.:party:

For comparison looked at the dyno's between standard 245, stage 1 and stage 2.

                                              2,000rpm            3,000rpm            4,000rpm            5,000rpm

Standard 245   (BHP)           100                        166                       215                       248

STAGE 1            (BHP)            117                        195                       244                      296

STAGE 2           (BHP)             142                        213                      272                       330.

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

For comparison looked at the dyno's between standard 245, stage 1 and stage 2.

                                              2,000rpm            3,000rpm            4,000rpm            5,000rpm

Standard 245   (BHP)           100                        166                       215                       248

STAGE 1            (BHP)            117                        195                       244                      296

STAGE 2           (BHP)             142                        213                      272                       330.

Did you get gearbox tuned?

7 minutes ago, StealthRS245 said:

Did you get gearbox tuned?

No need it's a manual and I don't abuse it in 1st and 2nd gear so just have to hang on in 3rd and 4th. Standard clutch should cope just fine.:party:

1 minute ago, shyVRS245 said:

No need it's a manual and I don't abuse it in 1st and 2nd gear so just have to hang on in 3rd and 4th. Standard clutch should cope just fine.:party:

Oh sorry forgot it was manual

1 minute ago, StealthRS245 said:

Oh sorry forgot it was manual

Manual hatch lightest of the 245 variations so now 245BHP per tonne=FUN.:biggrin:

7 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

Manual

Oh dear, that amount of human error just took 70Nm off it's performance 

51 minutes ago, teescom09 said:

As an alternative you could just a buy a Leon, Golf or S3 in the first place and get the same power standard or if you wish much more with just a  £500 outlay and 5 mins of time. View the power curve standard and after Bluefin.

 

http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?make=38&fueltype=3&model=580&variant=3679

 

 

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Those are all too small and wife hates estate cars so Octavia hatch ticks all the boxes.

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